Full salvation
 

Full salvation? What's that? Can someone be half saved? Which half goes to heaven? Is that like being half pregnant? Dumb.

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Re: Full salvation
 

When I saw the title of the thread, I thought, "Oh man, what a stupid term that is. I can't stand these guys."

Looks like you beat me to it! My least-favorite two terms: 1) Spirit-Filled Church; 2) Full Salvation.

Re: Full salvation
 

#1 is a very broadly used term and is more popular outside OPism.

Re: Full salvation
 

Yes, I am aware of that. I hate the term. It means, 'We speak in tongues." They should say, "Tongues Church", not "Spirit-filled."

Re: Full salvation
 

I thought this would be a good time to play Carmen's Spirit Filled Pizza but I could not find it

Re: Full salvation
 

Yes, accepting of tongues - but I think it's broader than that, and because it means more than "tongues" some conservative Pentecostals shun the term.

Re: Full salvation
 

I think its a valid term myself. One is obviously not fully saved if they have not done all thats required for one to be saved. There are millions of people who are not "fully saved".

Re: Full salvation
 

They recite a little prayer up front at church and the preacher proclaims them "saved"!

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Yeah, and some people go up front and say, "Hallelujah" so fast that the preacher proclaims them "saved."

Re: Full salvation
 

Historically, it came into use with the advent of Pentecostalism and other "Restorationist" movements. The early practitioners all had to confess that they were introducing something new to the discussion. Thus, they had to distinguish between the "old" salvation and the "new" salvation" without sending their forebears to hell.

Re: Full salvation
 

Acts 2:38 was something new? I thought it was proclaimed by Peter and the rest of the Apostles on the day of Pentecost? I figure that was about 2000 years ago.

Just because "believers" discarded it did not change what was always there.

Re: Full salvation
 

FALSE.

Bunch of half-saved brothers walking around, eh? God who has begun a work is not faithful to the end?

Re: Full salvation
 

Nope, Mizpeh. That's not saved either.

Reciting doesn't save anyone anymore than blabbering spit out of your mouth.

Confessing and believing Jesus as LORD saves. HE saves us. HE does the work.

Re: Full salvation
 

Thus, "Full Gospel" groups, including Four Square, etc..

You are correct, historically it was associated with Pentecostalism.

Re: Full salvation
 

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Re: Full salvation
 

You've left out repentance and receiving the Holy Spirit. Not to mention water baptism. All three of these involve the work of the Spirit.

Re: Full salvation
 

Yes, they do involve a work of the Spirit. But we are his by by His grace through faith. (I've left nothing out)

Repentance and believing are simultaneous. We can dissect them as we do justification and regeneration, but I truly believe they are simultaneous. And, yes, both are a work of the Spirit. We can't even believe except by the Spirit.


God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can't take credit for this; it is a gift from God. Eph 2:8

But we both agree rambling in tongues or reciting a prayer doesn't save you :thumbsup