Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1020964)

They were all probably republicans.

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1020964)

They were all probably republicans.

Originally Posted by canam (Post 1021062)

Pentecostal Dem ? lol, Well you know what they say, 'if your not a republican before your 30, you have no brain, if your not a republican after you turn 30, you have no heart "!! Your call !!

Originally Posted by canam (Post 1021062)

Pentecostal Dem ? lol, Well you know what they say, 'if your not a republican before your 30, you have no brain, if your not a republican after you turn 30, you have no heart "!! Your call !!

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1020987)

You don't follow the news. many unions that tried to force obamacare on us are not hustling waivers.

Unions make up 40 percent of employees exempted from Obamacare

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/...medium=twitter

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1021081)

What are waivers?

Waivers only last for one year and are only available if the plan certifies that a waiver is necessary to prevent either a large increase in premiums or a significant decrease in access to coverage. In addition, enrollees must be informed that their plan does not meet the requirements of the Affordable Care Act. No other provision of the Affordable Care Act is affected by these waivers: they only apply to the annual limit policy.

As of today, a total of 733 waivers have been granted for 2011. Key facts about annual limits waivers:

There was an increase in the number of applications received at the end of 2010 because December 1 was the final day to apply for a waiver for a plan or policy year that begins on January 1 – as many plans do. Over 500 waivers were granted in December. While the number of approved waivers increased by more than 200 percent, the total number of enrollees in plans receiving waivers has increased by only 48 percent since the previous posting.

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1021065)

Who in the world are "they"? I think "they" have things backward, "they" must have got the saying from the Democrat headquarters back in the 60's. The only ones that I have heard to say, "let them starve" has come from the mouth of a republican.

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1021080)

Abortion is the crown jewel of Dems. They don't like people, pretend to like people and try to prevent people from joining us..

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1021065)

Who in the world are "they"? I think "they" have things backward, "they" must have got the saying from the Democrat headquarters back in the 60's. The only ones that I have heard to say, "let them starve" has come from the mouth of a republican.

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1021292)

coadie, where is your friend sandie? That is her topic "abortion". Do you think that only democrats have abortions? If you took a poll, you would probably find out that more republicans benefit from the legalized abortions.

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1021292)

coadie, where is your friend sandie? That is her topic "abortion". Do you think that only democrats have abortions? If you took a poll, you would probably find out that more republicans benefit from the legalized abortions.

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1021596)

aegsm76...I will get back with you of who said "let them starve". My mother lives next door to me, and she was watching the news, it was a republican tea party person that was being interviewed. I will have to ask her, she was shocked that anyone would say such....this was in the last couple of weeks.

coadie said "If you want to be honest, "If" abortionists can't ask party affilitaion nor can they report it. It is confidential. 1/3 of abortions are black babies. Figgure it out. THey are not Republicans."

In 2006, 846,181 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. This total presents a 3% increase from the 820,151 abortions reported for 2005. The abortion rate for 2006 was 16.1 legal induced abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years. This also represents a 3% increase from 2005. The abortion ratio was 236 legal induced abortions per 1,000 live births in 2006. This represents no change from 2005. During the previous decade (1997–2006), reported abortion numbers, rates, and ratios decreased 5.7%, 8.8%, and 14.8%, respectively; most of these declines occurred before 2001. During the previous decade (1997–2006), women aged 20–29 years accounted for the majority of abortions (57%). Also a higher number of abortions were obtained by white women and unmarried women. The majority (62.0%) of abortions in 2006 were performed at ≤8 weeks' gestation.

coadie this is the website where I got this info:
http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealt...tats/index.htm

By the way coadie, I know someone that did get an abortion, they had to pay cash before they saw the doctor. Not too many poor black folks has that kind of money. You need to re-think your stats.

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1021631)

Esther said, "Both side HAVE abortions, that is not the issue, the issue is Democrats PROMOTE the right to abortions. But I suppose you are okay with that."

No Esther, I am not OK with that. I will never have an abortion, and I will beg any pregnant woman that wants an abortion, to give the baby to me....but then there are some cases that a woman's life is in danger, and the way that it was conceived, that she does not want to go through with taking a chance of losing her life, to have a baby that was conceived by rape. Maybe her husband didn't want to lose her and the baby. There are so many reasons, and if a woman chooses one of them, it should be her choice. We all have to make choices everyday, and there are consequences that goes with our choices.

I remember a time when abortions were not legal, it was a sad time to see full term babies throwed out of dorm windows, in trash cans dead from the cold, or killed by the mother. I don't want to see those images again on the news. The abortion laws that is upheld by the democrats are for the reasons that I have stated above, not for a method of birth control. When laws are made, there are always those who abuse the laws. I do not believe in abortions for birth control, but if it were of one of the circumstances metioned above, I would hope she would have a choice. If a woman wants an abortion and has the money, she can get one, whether it is legal or not legal, either in a sterile clinic or a back alley.

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1021638)

You are pro abortion.

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1021642)

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1022048)

You need to go on the website and get the right information, there has not been 200 deaths of women having abortions, that is a lie.

You say that the baby did not have a choice, neither did the woman that was raped.

Face the facts, women got abortions way before it was made legal, and if the law changes and abortions are not legal anymore, sorry women will still get abortions. There are many back alley doctors that will do it for the money.

Get your heads out of the sand, quit giving false information that you make up or read on some republican blog post, or hear from some dope head (Rush), or a clown like Glenn. Listen to the CDC website and get the right information.

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1022048)

You need to go on the website and get the right information, there has not been 200 deaths of women having abortions, that is a lie.

You say that the baby did not have a choice, neither did the woman that was raped.

Face the facts, women got abortions way before it was made legal, and if the law changes and abortions are not legal anymore, sorry women will still get abortions. There are many back alley doctors that will do it for the money.

Get your heads out of the sand, quit giving false information that you make up or read on some republican blog post, or hear from some dope head (Rush), or a clown like Glenn. Listen to the CDC website and get the right information.

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1022166)

And your advice to me about debating, it is you that gets in the debating mode, I just post my opinion and facts, to help educate YOU to what is happening in the world, seems that you need to study and research more other than the blogs of others.[/B]

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1022166)

aegsm76 said – I have made a list of some of your posts.
1. Referring to waivers, you said, “They were all probably republicans”


Seascapes answer...Did you notice the word "probably"? I did not know about the "waivers" until I checked it out, and posted the TRUTH about the "waivers".

So you were commenting on something that you were not knowledgeable about. Hmmmmm

2. Referring to the Winston Churchill quote, you said,
“The only ones that I have heard to say, "let them starve" has come from the mouth of a republican. “


Seascapes answer....It was someone from the Tea Party "Republican" that was on Chris Matthews, MSNBC. ...... Now let's look at the facts of the republicans....They wanted to stop giving people unemployment at the first of December, that is why our President caved in to give the tax breaks to the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans to help the unemployed.....They want to do away with the benefits that help many Americans, such as Social Security, Disability, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

Aegsm, you know, your actions speaks louder than words..."LET THEM STARVE"

Wow, so many things to address, here.
I love how you take one comment by a nameless someone on TV and make it a blanket application for all Republicans/Tea Party members.
Not very logical.
Let me ask you this.
How long should unemployment be paid to people?
1 year, 2 years, 3 years, 4 years, how long?
Also, the part you put in about my actions was a personal shot that you really have no knowledge about.
I had not noticed you doing this before and it really had no point to being placed here.

3. Referring to abortions, you said
“There are so many reasons, and if a woman chooses one of them, it should be her choice. We all have to make choices everyday, and there are consequences that goes with our choices.

I remember a time when abortions were not legal, it was a sad time to see full term babies throwed out of dorm windows, in trash cans dead from the cold, or killed by the mother. I don't want to see those images again on the news. The abortion laws that is upheld by the democrats are for the reasons that I have stated above, not for a method of birth control. When laws are made, there are always those who abuse the laws. I do not believe in abortions for birth control, but if it were of one of the circumstances metioned above, I would hope she would have a choice. If a woman wants an abortion and has the money, she can get one, whether it is legal or not legal, either in a sterile clinic or a back alley.”

Seascapes said..You quoted me perfectly clear above, and every word is true.

Again, so now that abortions are legal, we never see "full term babies throwed out of dorm windows, in trash cans dead from the cold, or killed by the mother."
You know that is untrue.

Aggie said....Now to address these.
1. 90% of the waivers were issued to democratic supporters
2. We found that you did not actually hear this and that this came from the mouth of someone who was "supposedly" a member of the Tea Party that was interviewed on TV.
3. The justification of a wrong –abortion- by stating that this solved the problem of babies being killed and abused is not only ridiculous but is a sad commentary on self-justification. Babies are still abused and killed and in greater numbers than before.
You are a perfect example of why liberal talk radio does not succeed.
You cannot back up your statements with actual facts.
I do not mean to come off as mean spirited, but I would discourage you from trying to debate on here, unless you are wanting to educate yourself on these issues.

Seascapes response to the above remarks.... You don't even know what a "waiver" is.... Did you not read my post from the website?

If you had read from the website of the CDC, that I posted, you would see that it is a noted fact that abortions are declining, so your statement #3 is in error. Your last statement about backing up facts, ....it is YOU that can't back up your facts. And by the way, do you want the liberal talk radio to succeed? I thought that you republicans call democrats liberals. Oh well, I don't listen to the radio anyway.

And your advice to me about debating, it is you that gets in the debating mode, I just post my opinion and facts, to help educate YOU to what is happening in the world, seems that you need to study and research more other than the blogs of others.

I believe that I have answered you completely, you can go and get a hanky now.

Your friend, Seascapes

Originally Posted by canam (Post 1021062)

Pentecostal Dem ? lol, Well you know what they say, 'if your not a republican before your 30, you have no brain, if your not a republican after you turn 30, you have no heart "!! Your call !!

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1021631)

Esther said, "Both side HAVE abortions, that is not the issue, the issue is Democrats PROMOTE the right to abortions. But I suppose you are okay with that."

No Esther, I am not OK with that. I will never have an abortion, and I will beg any pregnant woman that wants an abortion, to give the baby to me....but then there are some cases that a woman's life is in danger, and the way that it was conceived, that she does not want to go through with taking a chance of losing her life, to have a baby that was conceived by rape. Maybe her husband didn't want to lose her and the baby. There are so many reasons, and if a woman chooses one of them, it should be her choice. We all have to make choices everyday, and there are consequences that goes with our choices.

I remember a time when abortions were not legal, it was a sad time to see full term babies throwed out of dorm windows, in trash cans dead from the cold, or killed by the mother. I don't want to see those images again on the news. The abortion laws that is upheld by the democrats are for the reasons that I have stated above, not for a method of birth control. When laws are made, there are always those who abuse the laws. I do not believe in abortions for birth control, but if it were of one of the circumstances metioned above, I would hope she would have a choice. If a woman wants an abortion and has the money, she can get one, whether it is legal or not legal, either in a sterile clinic or a back alley.

Originally Posted by Esther (Post 1023470)

I see you agree with the Prochoice group, which is where the Dems stand.

Also, I can't for the life of me understand how so many people don't call this what it is, BIRTH CONTROL!

IF all these women are raped then where is the rape charge?

I'm sorry I'm not that stupid. This is a government paid birth control. Plain and simple. But worse than that, it is an abomination to God. For ME, I can't believe anyone is a Christian that supports killing innocent babies.

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1023609)

Esther, I did not say that every woman that has an abortion is raped. I said that if a woman that was raped and conceived a baby, that she should have that CHOICE, to have an abortion or to carry the baby to full term (remembering the violence of how it was conceived, and with the chance that she could die giving birth) That is her choice, not mine, or yours, but HERS. If she chooses to have an abortion, it would be nice to have it in a sterile clinic, instead of a basement.

Speaking about BIRTH CONTROL, most women take a pill every night or a pill the next morning to keep from having a baby. The abortion law was never meant for that reason, but like all benefits that helps some, there are those that abuse and misuse. I would like to see that part changed, where only the ones that were raped or the health of the mother could be legal only. But still Esther, the ones that wants an abortion will find that basement and still get the abortion whether it is legal or not, like it has been done back in the 60's.

I do vote democrat, because I believe in most of the issues of the democrats, such as...Social Security, Disability, Public Schools, Medicare, Medicaid, helping the working middle class, having insurance for all people. I would not vote republican because they are against all of these issues. So I weigh the advantages and disadvantages, and the democrats fit me best.

I do agree with the Pro-Choice group partly, but only under certain circumstances.

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1021606)

A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.

Minority women constitute only about 13% of the female population (age 15-44) in the United States, but they underwent approximately 36% of the abortions.
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion