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Socialite 01-31-2011 06:02 PM
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The story of the Lost Son, which many have long regarded as a story about the father's prodigal love, was told as a subtle rebuke to Pharisees who listened. But recently one pastor on FB decided it was more about "rules" than anything else.


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The prodigal didn't leave the father's house because of the provision. He left because of the rules. It took a famine for him to realize that it's "the rules" of the Father's house that create provision...and those rules aren't so bad. (PASTOR'S NAME OMITTED)
I'm not sure where said pastor got this from, and it completely disregards the entire context of the Story. The rule-abiding Pharisees were being rebuked (they were the rule-abiding elder brothers in the story), but somehow the parable is about how valuable rules are? Really?

The Story of the lost son is about a God who loves recklessly and even shamefully. I wrote about this recently (http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...56&postcount=6).

It's amazing to me that such a beautiful story can be twisted in such a way as to make people believe it was about 'rules.' The fact is, we are all that prodigal who rebelled against God. What our exact motivations were are no mystery: selfishness, trusting our way better than God's way. The prodigal didn't come back to make right with God. He came back because it was economically feasible for him. However, before he could get out his scheming, the father was running for Him, throwing himself on him, and ordering up a party. This is Grace.

UnTraditional 01-31-2011 06:08 PM
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A Pastor actually preached that mess?! Oh sad!

Socialite 01-31-2011 06:09 PM
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(thanks, admin!)

Socialite 01-31-2011 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by UnTraditional (Post 1021308)
A Pastor actually preached that mess?! Oh sad!
Preached it on FB. That was a direct citation.

A.W. Bowman 01-31-2011 06:28 PM
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As our days draw to a close, we can expect to see more and more of this kind of stuff - even within the Oneness movement. Our own history, while short compared to other movements, shows that we are not immune from committing such violence to the scriptures.

pelathais 01-31-2011 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1021306)
The story of the Lost Son, which many have long regarded as a story about the father's prodigal love, was told as a subtle rebuke to Pharisees who listened. But recently one pastor on FB decided it was more about "rules" than anything else.




I'm not sure where said pastor got this from, and it completely disregards the entire context of the Story. The rule-abiding Pharisees were being rebuked (they were the rule-abiding elder brothers in the story), but somehow the parable is about how valuable rules are? Really?

The Story of the lost son is about a God who loves recklessly and even shamefully. I wrote about this recently (http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...56&postcount=6).

It's amazing to me that such a beautiful story can be twisted in such a way as to make people believe it was about 'rules.' The fact is, we are all that prodigal who rebelled against God. What our exact motivations were are no mystery: selfishness, trusting our way better than God's way. The prodigal didn't come back to make right with God. He came back because it was economically feasible for him. However, before he could get out his scheming, the father was running for Him, throwing himself on him, and ordering up a party. This is Grace.
Context, context, context Socialite. You've gotta ignore the context of the passage to understand the Pharisees on Facebook.

Socialite 01-31-2011 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 1021326)
Context, context, context Socialite. You've gotta ignore the context of the passage to understand the Pharisees on Facebook.
No kidding! Sheesh...

aegsm76 01-31-2011 08:44 PM
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I think the story has several wonderful allegorical applications, but I never thought of this one.
Still won't think of this one after reading about it.

Cindy 01-31-2011 09:03 PM
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Was it a blog or on his wall?

CC1 01-31-2011 09:09 PM
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The amazing thing to me is when preachers take biblical texts out of context or twist them into "saying" things they clearly do not see but still get tons of amens and high fives from the congregations listening to the travesty.

canam 01-31-2011 11:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1021306)
The story of the Lost Son, which many have long regarded as a story about the father's prodigal love, was told as a subtle rebuke to Pharisees who listened. But recently one pastor on FB decided it was more about "rules" than anything else.




I'm not sure where said pastor got this from, and it completely disregards the entire context of the Story. The rule-abiding Pharisees were being rebuked (they were the rule-abiding elder brothers in the story), but somehow the parable is about how valuable rules are? Really?

The Story of the lost son is about a God who loves recklessly and even shamefully. I wrote about this recently (http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...56&postcount=6).

It's amazing to me that such a beautiful story can be twisted in such a way as to make people believe it was about 'rules.' The fact is, we are all that prodigal who rebelled against God. What our exact motivations were are no mystery: selfishness, trusting our way better than God's way. The prodigal didn't come back to make right with God. He came back because it was economically feasible for him. However, before he could get out his scheming, the father was running for Him, throwing himself on him, and ordering up a party. This is Grace.
Saw that on FB,i didnt take it as preaching just a good thought ,PS i dont think he has a lot of rules,so called, his people look like apostolics IMO,kind of a moderate, i like him.

pelathais 02-01-2011 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1021448)
The amazing thing to me is when preachers take biblical texts out of context or twist them into "saying" things they clearly do not see but still get tons of amens and high fives from the congregations listening to the travesty.
It's really more about "feeling" than thinking. Do you "feel" like the pastor? Can he scowl and make you angry? Can he laugh and make you laugh? Just ride the roller coaster and don't ask about the condition of the equipment!

I was often reminded of that annoying Peter Frampton song from the 1970s - "Do ... You ... Feel Like I Do?"

And then the really annoying part, "Do you feeeel...?!? Do you feeeeeeel... ?!?" It was almost a relief when it went back to the "Do ... You ... Feel Like I Do?"

All too many OP sermons end up the same way.

canam 02-01-2011 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1021439)
Was it a blog or on his wall?
Just a quote type post on wall

Pastor Keith 02-01-2011 07:44 AM
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The pastor referenced in this thread is good guy, who is thriving in the UPCI culture. So go easy on him, I got to see him at Landmark, when I was a Youth Pastor back in the early 90's he stayed with me. He has paid his dues and has planted and grown a church.

Baron1710 02-01-2011 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Keith (Post 1021511)
The pastor referenced in this thread is good guy, who is thriving in the UPCI culture. So go easy on him, I got to see him at Landmark, when I was a Youth Pastor back in the early 90's he stayed with me. He has paid his dues and has planted and grown a church.
PK,

Seriously? He gets a pass on distorting the Gospel because he is a good guy?

I guess if Ahmadinejad stays at my house and I declare him a good guy we will just overlook his desires to wipe Israel off the map.

coadie 02-01-2011 08:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1021306)
The story of the Lost Son, which many have long regarded as a story about the father's prodigal love, was told as a subtle rebuke to Pharisees who listened. But recently one pastor on FB decided it was more about "rules" than anything else.




I'm not sure where said pastor got this from, and it completely disregards the entire context of the Story. The rule-abiding Pharisees were being rebuked (they were the rule-abiding elder brothers in the story), but somehow the parable is about how valuable rules are? Really?

The Story of the lost son is about a God who loves recklessly and even shamefully. I wrote about this recently (http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...56&postcount=6).

It's amazing to me that such a beautiful story can be twisted in such a way as to make people believe it was about 'rules.' The fact is, we are all that prodigal who rebelled against God. What our exact motivations were are no mystery: selfishness, trusting our way better than God's way. The prodigal didn't come back to make right with God. He came back because it was economically feasible for him. However, before he could get out his scheming, the father was running for Him, throwing himself on him, and ordering up a party. This is Grace.
It is interesting that some people can't see the story has many points in it. Not just one. I have heard a lot of different sermons on that passage.
I don't think God blesses threads which attack his called servants.

Yes a clear mind sees the story does indeed begin with rebellion. With any good sermon, it would be easy to find 10 Pentecostals to play fruit inspector and try to shred it.

coadie 02-01-2011 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Keith (Post 1021511)
The pastor referenced in this thread is good guy, who is thriving in the UPCI culture. So go easy on him, I got to see him at Landmark, when I was a Youth Pastor back in the early 90's he stayed with me. He has paid his dues and has planted and grown a church.
I wonder how many critics all loaded with drama have planted and grown a church? It looks like Pentecostals have folks acting like football fans and are critics from the sidelines.

coadie 02-01-2011 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by canam (Post 1021477)
Saw that on FB,i didnt take it as preaching just a good thought ,PS i dont think he has a lot of rules,so called, his people look like apostolics IMO,kind of a moderate, i like him.
If i applied carnal intro spection questions and asked a pastor after a sermon to rate his sermon from best to worst, it could be one of his worst sermons that actually impacts a certain person to action.

Dance with the stars and Preach with the stars audience rating schemes

My unpopular comment tells me I see the heavy duty critics on this board remind me of the critical superior brother that never rebelled.

crakjak 02-01-2011 08:38 AM
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Ultimately, the story establishes the fact that man will turn to God when his circumstances take him to the very bottom. Notwithstanding, that he acted in self-interest, he submitted to his Father.

And his brother was upset that his father had mercy on him, and still loved him, so it is also a message to all of us that are safe in the Father's house.

Cindy 02-01-2011 08:41 AM
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So according to some he distorted scripture. Are we the thought police? We did not write the scripture, neither are we God. Who are we to say someone else's thoughts are wrong?

Socialite 02-01-2011 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Keith (Post 1021511)
The pastor referenced in this thread is good guy, who is thriving in the UPCI culture. So go easy on him, I got to see him at Landmark, when I was a Youth Pastor back in the early 90's he stayed with me. He has paid his dues and has planted and grown a church.
His name was omitted from the thread. So it's not personal.

But what he said is a great example of how distorted our interpretation of passages can get -- just to prove a point for our pet doctrines.

Socialite 02-01-2011 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1021527)
It is interesting that some people can't see the story has many points in it. Not just one. I have heard a lot of different sermons on that passage.
I don't think God blesses threads which attack his called servants.

Yes a clear mind sees the story does indeed begin with rebellion. With any good sermon, it would be easy to find 10 Pentecostals to play fruit inspector and try to shred it.
Ahh... a post-modern Bible interpreter. Many meanings... and it can mean whatever you want it to. Heck, scripture is just a playground for creativity. Build whatever you want out of them.

Definitely not a conservative, authorial intent exegesis. There was an audience, there was a point, there was an emphasis on the story --- and it had nothing to do with the prodigal coming back because he had a change of heart about rules. The irony is that's exactly the elder brother thinking -- not the prodigal.

Socialite 02-01-2011 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1021533)
So according to some he distorted scripture. Are we the thought police? We did not write the scripture, neither are we God. Who are we to say someone else's thoughts are wrong?
So scripture can mean whatever you wish it to? Or did it mean something to the original hearers?

This is how wacky things happen. They use the story as a theater stage to support any read-into the parable any idea they have. Then some even take the story and stretch it out for 5 hours with "what ifs" --- taking the analogous story farther than it was intended.

Each parable teaches a single moral truth -- a primary truth. Can there be secondary implications yes? Can there be 20 different meanings? I don't believe so. These were said to a people, and to an audience for a reason. Not to sit around like beatniks and make up your own interpretation.


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Conservative hermeneutics proceeds on the premise that language is meaningful and that the words in God's biblical communication carry "historical, cultural, spiritual, and moral meaning and values."5 As an interpreter approaches the Scriptures, he is conscious of the words and endeavors to discover the meaning carried by them. Sometimes Jesus supplied the interpretation (e.g., Matt. 22:14; 25:13), and on other occasions the Gospel writer made an editorial comment. Often the key to interpretation can be found in the prologue to the parable (e.g., Luke 18:1, 9; 19:11). Other times the epilogue gives a clue to the proper interpretation (Matt. 25:13; Luke 16:9). And in some parables the prologue and epilogue form an interpretive parenthesis around the story (e.g., Matt. 18:23–24, 35; Luke 12:16–21).


Jesus often told parables to answer a question, meet a challenge, or invite the hearers to change their thinking. To discover the need that prompted the parable is a significant step toward unlocking its meaning within its original context. Often that need in the original historical and/or literary audience is shared by current readers. Thus the supporting braces for the bridge of application can begin to be formed at this point in the interpretive process. The need may be seen in the material that introduces the parable (e.g., Luke 18:1) or it may not be revealed until after the parable is told (e.g., 16:8). Zuck suggests nine kinds of occasions or purposes that led to Jesus' parables, with examples of each: parables in answer to questions, parables in answer to requests, parables in answer to complaints, parables given with a stated purpose, parables of the kingdom given because of Israel's rejection of Jesus as Messiah, parables following an exhortation or principle, parables that illustrate a situation, and parables with the purpose implied but not stated.
http://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/ar...es_bailey.html

Socialite 02-01-2011 08:57 AM
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Next, I will prove there is a purple-spotted dragon that is each of ours avowed enemy -- by using the parable of the lost coin :)

Cindy 02-01-2011 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1021544)
So scripture can mean whatever you wish it to? Or did it mean something to the original hearers?

This is how wacky things happen. They use the story as a theater stage to support any read-into the parable any idea they have. Then some even take the story and stretch it out for 5 hours with "what ifs" --- taking the analogous story farther than it was intended.

Each parable teaches a single moral truth -- a primary truth. Can there be secondary implications yes? Can there be 20 different meanings? I don't believe so. These were said to a people, and to an audience for a reason. Not to sit around like beatniks and make up your own interpretation.



http://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/ar...es_bailey.html
No, I am saying you are guilty of what you are accusing this preacher of according to some. Distortion, just because you disagree doesn't mean you are right and he is wrong. YOU can be wrong, you know? And you can be as sarcastic as you like, still doesn't make you right.

Socialite 02-01-2011 09:00 AM
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And if you do take liberty with a text, to support an otherwise-biblically supported principle, you should be honest that this is only your opinion and probably not true, but a "let's pretend." Jesus wasn't preaching the power and beauty of rules - sorry.

So pithy statements with your name signed at the end don't make it any truer :)

Socialite 02-01-2011 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1021550)
No, I am saying you are guilty of what you are accusing this preacher of according to some. Distortion, just because you disagree doesn't mean you are right and he is wrong. YOU can be wrong, you know? And you can be as sarcastic as you like, still doesn't make you right.
I could be wrong. Sure. I could be wrong that Jesus is God too.

But based on VERY basic hermeneutic principles, this FB pastor took liberty and made claims about a story that simply aren't true -- nor do they fit the overall context of what Jesus was saying... and who he was saying it do.

Cindy 02-01-2011 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1021553)
I could be wrong. Sure. I could be wrong that Jesus is God too.

But based on VERY basic hermeneutic principles, this FB pastor took liberty and made claims about a story that simply aren't true -- nor do they fit the overall context of what Jesus was saying... and who he was saying it do.
I agree with some of this. But not all, but we apply a lot of what Jesus said to our lives in our context of this century. And interpretations do differ, yet the text remains true.

Socialite 02-01-2011 09:07 AM
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The story begins with this:

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Now the tax collectors and sinners were all gathering around to hear Jesus. 2 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.”
So we know our audience...

He ends the parable of the lost sheep with this...
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I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent
You tell me who he's probably referring to :)

Then the Story of the Lost Coin...

Then the Story of the Lost Son...

Which ends with this:

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“‘My son,’ the father said, ‘you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32 But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’”
Chapter 16 continues on with Jesus' stories...

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The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus. 15 He said to them, “You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of others, but God knows your hearts. What people value highly is detestable in God’s sight.
Suggesting the son had issues with rules and then figured the rules were good misses, and yes, distorts the impacting message of the story Jesus told. The story wasn't a rubix cube, pick-your-interpretation, it had some very clear meanings to the original audience.

Socialite 02-01-2011 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1021554)
I agree with some of this. But not all, but we apply a lot of what Jesus said to our lives in our context of this century. And interpretations do differ, yet the text remains true.
:blink

Who cares if the Text is the same if people interpret however they wish?

We wouldn't have one single, coherent truth claim about God with that sort of post-modern thinking.

Socialite 02-01-2011 09:10 AM
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More from that link I posted:

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Kelley rightly criticizes the tendency to ignore the culture. "The danger we see in this sort of orientation is that it yields a picture of Jesus not as a wandering Jewish rabbi who instructs disciples, replies to opponents, and stimulates crowds, but rather of an existentialist theologian, wearing a Bultmannian or Heideggerian face, who by parabolic speech dramatizes ontological possibilities for hearers."

Cindy 02-01-2011 09:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1021555)
The story begins with this:

So we know our audience...

He ends the parable of the lost sheep with this...
You tell me who he's probably referring to :)

Then the Story of the Lost Coin...

Then the Story of the Lost Son...

Which ends with this:



Chapter 16 continues on with Jesus' stories...



Suggesting the son had issues with rules and then figured the rules were good misses, and yes, distorts the impacting message of the story Jesus told. The story wasn't a rubix cube, pick-your-interpretation, it had some very clear meanings to the original audience.
It certainly did. But our thought processes are different than theirs. They spoke funny back then you know? Translations of text affect how we view scripture also. But I agree the core of the stories remain the same. Still doesn't mean we all interpret or agree on subjects.

Socialite 02-01-2011 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1021559)
It certainly did. But our thought processes are different than theirs. They spoke funny back then you know? Translations of text affect how we view scripture also. But I agree the core of the stories remain the same. Still doesn't mean we all interpret or agree on subjects.
Oh, there most definitely are other, more murky waters in the Text that we humbly agree "we don't know, but I think....". This isn't one of those.

That they "spoke funny" and thought differently, had different customs, and historically the words had great significance, are all things that should be discovered if we wish to understand what Jesus' words meant to the original hearers. We should do this first, before we attempt to make application today -- or we are just using Jesus' words as a puppet, and we become the master.

Cindy 02-01-2011 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1021561)
Oh, there most definitely are other, more murky waters in the Text that we humbly agree "we don't know, but I think....". This isn't one of those.

That they "spoke funny" and thought differently, had different customs, and historically the words had great significance, are all things that should be discovered if we wish to understand what Jesus' words meant to the original hearers. We should do this first, before we attempt to make application today -- or we are just using Jesus' words as a puppet, and we become the master.
With this I do agree, and will be reading the story today. Thanks for making me think on this subject.

coadie 02-01-2011 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1021556)
:blink

Who cares if the Text is the same if people interpret however they wish?

We wouldn't have one single, coherent truth claim about God with that sort of post-modern thinking.
How many churches have you planted?

Socialite 02-01-2011 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1021566)
How many churches have you planted?
What was your favorite childhood pet's name?

coadie 02-01-2011 09:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1021544)
So scripture can mean whatever you wish it to? Or did it mean something to the original hearers?

This is how wacky things happen. They use the story as a theater stage to support any read-into the parable any idea they have. Then some even take the story and stretch it out for 5 hours with "what ifs" --- taking the analogous story farther than it was intended.

Each parable teaches a single moral truth -- a primary truth. Can there be secondary implications yes? Can there be 20 different meanings? I don't believe so. These were said to a people, and to an audience for a reason. Not to sit around like beatniks and make up your own interpretation.



http://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/ar...es_bailey.html
Actually you are wrong. There are 3 characters involved. So you mental limit of there being only one "moral truth" is rather shabby.

From the beginning, the word "prodigal" isn't even mentioned in the text. So when you get so restrictive and absolutist on a word that isn't even in there, it raises some red flags.

There are things to learn in the parable regarding the father, the son and the brother that never left.

coadie 02-01-2011 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1021540)
His name was omitted from the thread. So it's not personal.

But what he said is a great example of how distorted our interpretation of passages can get -- just to prove a point for our pet doctrines.
So you won't give a link to see if you are accurately quoting the actual messaage. These gossip threads are very vindictive. Face book and blogs are the 2011 places to gossip.

tstew 02-01-2011 09:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1021306)
The story of the Lost Son, which many have long regarded as a story about the father's prodigal love, was told as a subtle rebuke to Pharisees who listened. But recently one pastor on FB decided it was more about "rules" than anything else.




I'm not sure where said pastor got this from, and it completely disregards the entire context of the Story. The rule-abiding Pharisees were being rebuked (they were the rule-abiding elder brothers in the story), but somehow the parable is about how valuable rules are? Really?

The Story of the lost son is about a God who loves recklessly and even shamefully. I wrote about this recently (http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...56&postcount=6).

It's amazing to me that such a beautiful story can be twisted in such a way as to make people believe it was about 'rules.' The fact is, we are all that prodigal who rebelled against God. What our exact motivations were are no mystery: selfishness, trusting our way better than God's way. The prodigal didn't come back to make right with God. He came back because it was economically feasible for him. However, before he could get out his scheming, the father was running for Him, throwing himself on him, and ordering up a party. This is Grace.
I'm sorry, but I don't see the problem with discussing this as an element of the parable. I think the fact that the Bible goes on to say that once he received his money he squandered it with riotous or lawless living, makes the issue of boundaries relevant. I would not make that the ultimate interpretation of the parable...and I'm not sure the poster would either. However, the beautiful thing about scripture is that many different valid points can be made and highlighted in context IMHO.

Socialite 02-01-2011 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1021575)
So you won't give a link to see if you are accurately quoting the actual messaage. These gossip threads are very vindictive. Face book and blogs are the 2011 places to gossip.
This was a direct quote. Those who are connected with this pastor will recognize that and know it. You can use your discretion to believe if I am lying or not. Either way, it makes for discussion.

Always a pleasure interacting with you, Coadie :thumbsup


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