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Digging4Truth 02-04-2011 06:51 AM

Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
This is the thread where you can drop in and leave a message for all of those who have "left" this forum due to the continual insistence by those who frequent this forum to question things.

You can just leave them a message here. They will get it. Because they haven't gone anywhere. They just fail to post.

aegsm76 02-04-2011 10:32 AM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Hey, I haven't gone anywhere!
I thought I was being the UC's designated representative these days!

RandyWayne 02-04-2011 10:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1025099)
Hey, I haven't gone anywhere!
I thought I was being the UC's designated representative these days!

Funny thing is is that if you were here 3-4 years ago you would have been considered left of center. Now you are the resident UC.

aegsm76 02-04-2011 10:39 AM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
I was here, just didn't post much.
I joined the forum the first month that Jim Yohe started it!

Truthseeker 02-04-2011 10:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1025110)
Funny thing is is that if you were here 3-4 years ago you would have been considered left of center. Now you are the resident UC.

Does't take much to be an UC or C here.

aegsm76 02-04-2011 10:41 AM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Actually I am very conservative in my personal beliefs.
Just very reluctant to condemn others for their beliefs.
Especially in the cases where the scriptures are silent.

RandyWayne 02-04-2011 10:43 AM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1025135)
Actually I am very conservative in my personal beliefs.
Just very reluctant to condemn others for their beliefs.
Especially in the cases where the scriptures are silent.

In other words your not a source of great quotes, or Eplyisms as they are sometimes referred to. LOL

aegsm76 02-04-2011 10:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1025142)
In other words your not a source of great quotes, or Eplyisms as they are sometimes referred to. LOL

Let me try.
Hose that aren't the color of hose will send more women to hell than red shoes!

How's that?

RandyWayne 02-04-2011 10:53 AM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1025147)
Let me try.
Hose that aren't the color of hose will send more women to hell than red shoes!

How's that?

Close! Perhaps 70% of the way there.....

Sister Alvear 02-04-2011 10:56 AM

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:icecream
Since I believe in women in ministry I must be far left...lol...love you folks....

Hoovie 02-04-2011 10:59 AM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1025135)
Actually I am very conservative in my personal beliefs.
Just very reluctant to condemn others for their beliefs.
Especially in the cases where the scriptures are silent.

Ditto.

So I'll be checking this thread from time to time...

rgcraig 02-04-2011 11:16 AM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Hello everyone!

Miss you, love you!

I'm a nana now and expecting a second grandchild in July. Life is wonderful and God is good!!

We don't deserve his goodness, but I'm thankful for it!

Pressing-On 02-04-2011 11:27 AM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1024869)
This is the thread where you can drop in and leave a message for all of those who have "left" this forum due to the continual insistence by those who frequent this forum to question things.

You can just leave them a message here. They will get it. Because they haven't gone anywhere. They just fail to post.

Did you think that antagonism would bring anyone back to post? It's become the Hatfields and the McCoy's. Who is going to put the gun down first?

Please forgive me, but your thread just shows everyone that nothing is going to change, especially, respect for one another. Love ya, Digging, but I'm just sayin'...

Elizabeth 02-04-2011 11:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1025224)
Hello everyone!

Miss you, love you!

I'm a nana now and expecting a second grandchild in July. Life is wonderful and God is good!!

We don't deserve his goodness, but I'm thankful for it!

Congrats Nana! Lord I will be sooo soo old by the time I am a Nana.

So happy for you!

Elizabeth 02-04-2011 11:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1025236)
Did you think that antagonism would bring anyone back to post? It's become the Hatfields and the McCoy's. Who is going to put the gun down first?

Good thought!

I miss all my old friends, and would love to have them back-

Socali, Lady Chocolate, LAgirl, Lavon, AmazingGrace, BroStrange...

Truthseeker 02-04-2011 11:32 AM

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How about "You still watching TV in motels?" lol

Socialite 02-04-2011 11:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1025245)
Good thought!

I miss all my old friends, and would love to have them back-

Socali, Lady Chocolate, LAgirl, Lavon, AmazingGrace, BroStrange...

Socali, Socialite... CLOSE!

Socialite 02-04-2011 11:33 AM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1025236)
Did you think that antagonism would bring anyone back to post? It's become the Hatfields and the McCoy's. Who is going to put the gun down first?

Please forgive me, but your thread just shows everyone that nothing is going to change, especially, respect for one another. Love ya, Digging, but I'm just sayin'...

:drama






:lol

rgcraig 02-04-2011 11:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1025238)
Congrats Nana! Lord I will be sooo soo old by the time I am a Nana.

So happy for you!

You'll be my age and I'm not old.

Theophil 02-04-2011 11:36 AM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1025134)
Does't take much to be an UC or C here.

LOL. You got that right.

*AQuietPlace* 02-04-2011 11:37 AM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1025250)
You'll be my age and I'm not old.

:lol

Theophil 02-04-2011 11:37 AM

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Everybody is somebody elses liberal or con.

*AQuietPlace* 02-04-2011 11:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1025247)
How about "You still watching TV in motels?" lol

It's You-Tube these days. :)

Digging4Truth 02-04-2011 11:42 AM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1025135)
Actually I am very conservative in my personal beliefs.
Just very reluctant to condemn others for their beliefs.
Especially in the cases where the scriptures are silent.

Ditto.

My family and I live a very conservative life but I see a difference in the convictions that I love and love and what I am willing to attack my brother or sister for not seeing as I do.

Also... There are issues on which I have questions that I need more than a passing answer on. I at least need to feel that my questions have been recognized to actually exist.

By the questions I pose on here some would mark me as non apostolic or liberal (especially with the ease and speed at which these labels are applied)

The issue seems to be... it is not okay to ask questions and, should one suffer a lapse of realization long enough to actually ask a question, then a quick off the cuff answer with a quirky smile should suffice or one is in rebellion.

If that is conservatism then count me out.

BeenThinkin 02-04-2011 11:48 AM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1025263)
Ditto.

My family and I live a very conservative life but I see a difference in the convictions that I love and love and what I am willing to attack my brother or sister for not seeing as I do.

Also... There are issues on which I have questions that I need more than a passing answer on. I at least need to feel that my questions have been recognized to actually exist.

By the questions I pose on here some would mark me as non apostolic or liberal (especially with the ease and speed at which these labels are applied)

The issue seems to be... it is not okay to ask questions and, should one suffer a lapse of realization long enough to actually ask a question, then a quick off the cuff answer with a quirky smile should suffice or one is in rebellion.

If that is conservatism then count me out.

Good post Digging4Truth. And I would like to add that in an earlier post it seemed that the "liberals" must lay down their guns while the UC's and C's who left can come back with both barrels loaded. If we don't lay down our guns the UC's and C's won't come back. Is this what makes AFF what it is? A place where no one can disagree, where one side has to put up their guns while the other side has their guns aimed at the rest of us? NOT!

My point.... If Elder Epley comes back do you think he will be charitable to someone who disagrees with him?

Been Thinkin

Digging4Truth 02-04-2011 11:50 AM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1025236)
Did you think that antagonism would bring anyone back to post? It's become the Hatfields and the McCoy's. Who is going to put the gun down first?

Please forgive me, but your thread just shows everyone that nothing is going to change, especially, respect for one another. Love ya, Digging, but I'm just sayin'...

Well it is clear that those who supposedly left have only gone to another forum where they hash everything we talk about over here.

As I have stated before... debate... or depart.

I guess the only 2 options to their doing so would be that we all come around to their way of thinking (which includes living without questioning) or AFF finally dies and goes away.

If one is going to leave... leave. Don't spend your days lurking in here and then raking us over the coals in your little corners of the internet.

If you're going to talk about us... come on over here and let's discuss.

But... discussion isn't what is desired. Nor is open debate or respectful explanation or study. What we are seeing is not even a clash of conservative versus liberal. It's a clash between an old world where people people accepted explanations just because of who said it and a new day where we need to see it in the consistent application of the Word of God.

I was rebuked openly service after service for believing in post trib years ago. That used to be enough to make people line up. I requested open study between me and the pastor and was told I would get it but it was only followed by continual open rebuke over the pulpit.

That don't cut it anymore.

Digging4Truth 02-04-2011 11:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin (Post 1025277)
Good post Digging4Truth. And I would like to add that in an earlier post it seemed that the "liberals" must lay down their guns while the UC's and C's who left can come back with both barrels loaded. If we don't lay down our guns the UC's and C's won't come back. Is this what makes AFF what it is? A place where no one can disagree, where one side has to put up their guns while the other side has their guns aimed at the rest of us? NOT!

My point.... If Elder Epley comes back do you think he will be charitable to someone who disagrees with him?

Been Thinkin



:thumbsup

aegsm76 02-04-2011 12:02 PM

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I am trying to remember what prompted the great exodus and I just cannot?
I do remember that the forum seemed to become a lot more willing to let people take personal shots at each other, but I don't know if that contributed.
I do think that people on both sides became too personally caught up in a lot of the discussions.

rgcraig 02-04-2011 12:03 PM

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Thought this was for messages.

Digging4Truth 02-04-2011 12:07 PM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1025302)
Thought this was for messages.

It was... but others commented so I replied.

And... they'll probably "get the message" :)

*AQuietPlace* 02-04-2011 12:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1025302)
Thought this was for messages.

If a thread ever stayed true to its original purpose, I think the world would come to an end. :D

Elizabeth 02-04-2011 12:09 PM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1025250)
You'll be my age and I'm not old.

Girl, by the time by boys have kids I will be way older than you are now! Seriously!

BeenThinkin 02-04-2011 12:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1025307)
It was... but others commented so I replied.

And... they'll probably "get the message" :)


I guess the message might be... "Heh....come on back! You guys were the ones that took your toys and went home, the ones that left."

Kinda like the old man and woman in their pickup truck. He was driving...she was sitting next to her door. They passed a young couple who were sitting right up against each other in their pickup. The older woman looked over at her man and said, "Why don't we ever do that anymore." He replied, "I haven't moved!"

Come on back... we haven't moved!

Been Thinkin

Pressing-On 02-04-2011 12:27 PM

Re: Leave A Message For The Not So Departed Cons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1025281)
Well it is clear that those who supposedly left have only gone to another forum where they hash everything we talk about over here.

As I have stated before... debate... or depart.

I guess the only 2 options to their doing so would be that we all come around to their way of thinking (which includes living without questioning) or AFF finally dies and goes away.

If one is going to leave... leave. Don't spend your days lurking in here and then raking us over the coals in your little corners of the internet.

If you're going to talk about us... come on over here and let's discuss.

But... discussion isn't what is desired. Nor is open debate or respectful explanation or study. What we are seeing is not even a clash of conservative versus liberal. It's a clash between an old world where people people accepted explanations just because of who said it and a new day where we need to see it in the consistent application of the Word of God.

I was rebuked openly service after service for believing in post trib years ago. That used to be enough to make people line up. I requested open study between me and the pastor and was told I would get it but it was only followed by continual open rebuke over the pulpit.

That don't cut it anymore.

I understand what you are saying, Digging. But, I see people, from this forum, dragging conversations from other sources (the other forum, FB, blogs, etc.) as well. Neither party appears to be without some blame. That is why I believe I can ask, "Who will put down the gun first?"

All I can do is make sure it isn't me doing the talking and dragging over, that I discuss, when I am here or anywhere, and not mock another's journey or beliefs.

To the point of wanting questions answered, this is my personal view. While I don't agree with everything surrounding me, (and I didn't in the Catholic or Baptist church either) I KNOW that I am in the will of God for my life. Where I am and where I serve is where God wants me to be. And if He does not open another door, I am willing to follow His lead. So, I try to follow Ephesians 4:3, "Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace."

I believe that God brings people into our lives when He wants to bring changes to us. It is the same thing as Him speaking to me through His Word. I get direction in that way and sometimes through people. But, like my daughter was telling me the other day, "I am sure not going to listen to people who make fun of who I am and what I believe." No sounder words could be spoken.

I believe that many Conservatives, who have left this forum, know that they are also in the will of God for their lives, they won't change anything unless they feel directed from God Himself, and that it becomes unproductive for them to hash out differences, answering the same questions day after day.

One reason they do "lurk" is that there are some topics that are interesting, but not necessary to log in and participate. Our time is our own. We, as individuals, decide where we want to spend that time.

Digging4Truth 02-04-2011 12:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1025335)
I understand what you are saying, Digging. But, I see people, from this forum, dragging conversations from other sources (the other forum, FB, blogs, etc.) as well. Neither party appears to be without some blame. That is why I believe I can ask, "Who will put down the gun first?"

All I can do is make sure it isn't me doing the talking and dragging over, that I discuss, when I am here or anywhere, and not mock another's journey or beliefs.

To the point of wanting questions answered, this is my personal view. While I don't agree with everything surrounding me, (and I didn't in the Catholic or Baptist church either) I KNOW that I am in the will of God for my life. Where I am and where I serve is where God wants me to be. And if He does not open another door, I am willing to follow His lead. So, I try to follow Ephesians 4:3, "Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace."

I believe that God brings people into our lives when He wants to bring changes to us. It is the same thing as Him speaking to me through His Word. I get direction in that way and sometimes through people. But, like my daughter was telling me the other day, "I am sure not going to listen to people who make fun of who I am and what I believe." No sounder words could be spoken.

I believe that many Conservatives, who have left this forum, know that they are also in the will of God for their lives, they won't change anything unless they feel directed from God Himself, and that it becomes unproductive for them to hash out differences, answering the same questions day after day.

One reason they do "lurk" is that there are some topics that are interesting, but not necessary to log in and participate. Our time is our own. We, as individuals, decide where we want to spend that time.

Okay.

Pressing-On 02-04-2011 12:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1025336)
Okay.

LOL! So, my impression is that you are saying, "You didn't give me what I wanted so, all righty then." We can't find solutions that way. I am not going to personally change anything, but my underwear (:heeheehee), so why haggle about it?

Do you feel that you are in the will of God for your life right now?

Elizabeth 02-04-2011 12:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1025335)
But, like my daughter was telling me the other day, "I am sure not going to listen to people who make fun of who I am and what I believe." No sounder words could be spoken.

I do not consider by self a UC or con by any means.

But I think this says a mouth full- even though I dont agree, it makes me cringe when I reading mocking posts, well actually the ones that go beyond mocking to just plain cruel.

Now of course there are jerks on both sides, just when we try to mock or cut down another jerk, we in essence also denigrate those that are not jerks and make fun of those things that people we care about believe.

Gets old...

Elizabeth 02-04-2011 12:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1025250)
You'll be my age and I'm not old.

I should not have said sooo soo old. I just feel like I will not be a young nana like you! I feel like it will happen in my 60's for some reason. I know that is not old...but.

Pressing-On 02-04-2011 12:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1025343)
I do not consider by self a UC or con by any means.

But I think this says a mouth full- even though I dont agree, it makes me cringe when I reading mocking posts, well actually the ones that go beyond mocking to just plain cruel.

Now of course their are jerks on both sides, just when we try to mock or cut down another jerk, we in essence also denigrate those that are not jerks and make fun of those things that people we care about believe.

Gets old...

Yes, it does get old and the cringing moments are what closes your ears to listen - from both sides of the spectrum. Each side has moments that, absolutely, make you cringe. I've cringed when comments have been dragged over here from the other forum. Both sides can be equally ugly and despicable. I wonder how many people will be lost because of our Hatfield and McCoy mentality? Very scary thought to stand before God on that one.

Socialite 02-04-2011 12:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1025335)
I understand what you are saying, Digging. But, I see people, from this forum, dragging conversations from other sources (the other forum, FB, blogs, etc.) as well. Neither party appears to be without some blame. That is why I believe I can ask, "Who will put down the gun first?"

Why does that have to always be viewed as drawing a gun, PO?

Using things people are saying in real-time, not with a desire to personally attack them, but to discuss views, and even critique them shouldn't be such a big deal, should it?


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