Gold flakes in the air...
 

Yesterday afternoon I received a phone call from a friend of mine. He or she wanted to ask me my opinion about some things that took place in apostolic church service that he or she was in recently.

There was a visiting "prophet." Said prophet called people out, as they are known for doing... then the prophet said that he could see gold flakes in the air. Well, it wasn't long before others began to exclaim that they also see the gold flakes in the air. This made my friend uncomfortable. He or she did not want to be a part of it and walked to the kitchen of the church until the circus was over.

I told my friend that I would reject that kind of thing, but I'm no prophet. If gold flakes began to appear during my preaching engagements I may have a change of heart. I also told my friend that there was an apostolic preacher whose mother woke up with gold fillings in her teeth. The preacher said that God was going to do a new thing. I haven't heard much about the preacher in a few years now.

Anyway, what ya'll think?

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There were some flakes there, alright.

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seems to me "just in my opinion I'm probably wrong" that there is enough that needs to be done such as healings, deliverances, encouragments and salvation that God shouldnt have to scratch his head and say "Wow...people are losing interest...what can I do to up my billing?......I KNOW!...Now hear this one out cause its gonna sound crazy!...yeah even crazier than usual! Ok here goes........ Gold Flakes In The Air!....Catchy Eh?

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This isn't the first time (nor will it be the last) that these types of "signs and wonders" have appeared. Years ago, a certain evangelist claimed oil supernaturally appeared on his hands. A bloody cross was said to have formed on his forhead. The Brownsville Reivival in Pensacola claimed "gold dust" was seen in the air (someone investigating said it was actually tiny bits of gold colored plastic that was being circulated thru the air conditioning system).

I don't doubt that God can and does (on rare occasions) do "signs and wonders", but I'm skeptical when those signs seem to bring glory to a preacher rather than to God. If God can produce gold fillings in teeth, He can just as easily recreate a tooth. He doesn't need gimmicks and magic tricks.

I remember a "sign" that appeared on occasion in our country church years ago. When the power of God was really falling (meaning, when a lot of people were shouting, dancing, jumping up and down, and running the aisles), a supernatural "cloud of witness" would appear over peoples heads. As a young, gullible Christian I was amazed by the thin haze that I saw myself. Several years later, while cleaning the church, I discovered the source of this "cloud". The carpet was dirty. Really dirty. All the activity would kick up dust that hung in the air. Gives new meaning to the old song, "Theres a Stranger comin' down that Dusty Road".

Another sign: A "sweet smelling savor" was noticed in the air at times (summer months). The pastor said that was God showing us that our worship was a "sweet smelling savor" to Him. Funny how I never noticed this smell was never detected in the winter months and only when a side door was open (we had no AC then). Funny how I never connected the smell to the honey suckle vines that grew in profusion just outside that side door.

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Simple. Collect a few of them and have them tested.

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OA,

I love to read your post. I truly believe that God "...would not have us to be ignorant..."

"And this is eternal life, to KNOW the living God." And my friends HE is no wizard behind some curtain, HE deals in LIFE, not gimmicks!!

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Oh, no, Hoovie, that would be unbelief!!!

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I am open for anything God might do, but I have never seen that stuff myself yet, personally. So I do not discount it. I just wait and watch. lol

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seems to me that an apostolic preacher has retreaded some charismatic tires.

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I don't find God to be limited to what we think He should do or not to do.

I don't know why anyone would want to make it up, but there are many that think "white lies" are okay.

Truly sad for them.

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If someone could gather a few ounces I'd be happy to have it tested. Your test sample will not be returned. :)

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I'm not saying that this sort of thing might not happen,but I don't see anything in scripture about Goldflakes appearing.

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lol

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It reminded me of the charismatic nonsense of the 90's. I told my friend to wait it out... watch for any strange manifestations. Would be a shame if people started making animal noises.

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God limits himself to his WORD. I place no limits on God. I do live within the limits he has given me....

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Excellent post. I have no doubt about the power of God and his ability to do supernatural things. The thing is to respect that without being gullible to every wacko claim that comes along.

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Has God said He would not sprinkle people with gold flakes? Hasn't He said He would perform signs and wonders?

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How can you tell which ones are wacko and which ones aren't?

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Timmy, I know you are funning around... and its funny. I laugh with you my friend...


but for other eyes... there is a point to be made here...

Signs and wonders.... those signs and wonders are in the bible. Jesus did them they are a guide post.

Pray for a dead person. Tell me they came back to life, I will be happy to tell you it can happen...

start with gold teeth and flakes in the air, and Ive got to go back to the book.

that aint in there.

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There was a point to my funning, too. Apparently, you don't believe in signs today, so it doesn't apply to you.

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ah.. i do believe in signs today.

they are outlined in scripture.... but I did think your post was a good one...

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Oh, like tongues? Any others?

But still, if there are signs today, what scripture tells you 1) what signs will not occur? and 2) how can you distinguish a true sign from a false one, even if it does appear in the approved list of signs? ;)

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That happened one time at youth camp. The kids started running around on all fours barking. This was right after we stood in a line so we could be slain in the spirit. It was a UPC Camp,and the preachers over this were pretty well known. One of the local preachers told everyone to leave the building, he was not going to let the barking continue.

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Agreed. This is why in Hinny Benn meetings there are a lot of bodies hitting the floor. The reason is people see something happening and walk away happy. That is why if sister so and so screams in a meeting, we walk out happy believing something happened. As long as we fall for that stuff real miracles won't happen or will continue to be more rare than we want

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Don't worry about testing the gold flakes. Just wait and see if the preacher takes an offering. If he does, don't believe the flakes.

After all, who needs an offering when God's raining gold?

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That's a great point! :lol

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Job 28:6 KJV The stones of it are the place of sapphires: and it hath dust of gold.

Gold dust is like gold leaf. Cannot get any amount of it worth anything, anyway. :lol

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Killjoy. ;)

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you missed the part about praying for a dead guy? that is a really cool sign.

tongues will cease... when perfection arrives...

everything is subject to the word of God. Even how God deals with mankind. Not because God cannot righteously deal with man in ways beyond the scope of scripture (he can as everything he does is righteous) but because the word of God is the guide post for us to understand him.

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I saw that. Thought it went without saying that that would be a really cool sign. :lol I have never seen it happen. It is one of the signs in the Bible, however, unlike gold flakes. Have you seen it happen?

Has perfection arrived? Have tongues ceased? I'm confused about the point you're making.

That I understand. What I don't get is how any of this helps us sort out fake signs from real (if any) signs. Gold flakes happen, though this sign is not mentioned in the Bible. Raising the dead doesn't (far as I know) happen, but that sign is in the Bible.

Still, the Bible does warn about false signs, so there is that. It doesn't tell you how to determine if a sign is fake, though. Sadly.

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I don't think that testing the gold flakes would be "unbelief."

In Malachi God told those Old Testament Levites/Priests to "prove" Him (Mal 3:10) and in 1 Thessalonians 5:21 we are exhorted to "prove" things like prophecy, etc.

Besides, if they were real gold, it might be a way to help people or churches meet their budget in these tuff times.

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Years ago when a group would get together around a tree crawling around and barking like dogs at the Presbyterian camp meeting in Kentucky, they called it "treeing the devil."

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The "prophet" had a bottle of water and was splashing people as he yelled "VIRTUE... VIRTUE..." Water splashed on the drummer and the drum set.

Sounds like the same "prophet" that was making a splash in the Apostolic Assemblies in south Texas one or two years ago.

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There was also a "healer" in the service. The prophet and the healer travel together. People claimed healing... ...of nothing more than minor aches and pains.

I have their names and would post them, but I'm not sure that's allowed here.

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That is an easy question. The ones that I approve of are ok and those I don't are wacko!!:thumbsup

When I see no New Testament precedent I am very leery. I don't recall anywhere in the NT where things like "golden flakes" or jewels, etc showed up in a prayer meeting.

I would guess that in 99.8% of these situations my "wackomoter" would be pegging the limit and I also would have to excuse myself from the proceedings.

Sadly I think Satan knows there is more than one way to skin a cat as we say in the South. One way to hinder the church from reaching people is to keep it fixated on unbiblical mysticism.

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When I read this the first thing that popped into my mind was Sai Baba google the name.

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"Devotees say they have observed Sathya Sai Baba manifesting vibuthi (holy ash), and sometimes food and "small objects" such as rings, necklaces and watches"

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If it was corn flakes I'd be impressed :heeheehee

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nah we'd get tired of it and start griping cause there wasnt milk.

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Very much charismatic and sounds very similar to the Brownsville Revival.

Feathers in the air, gold pixi dust, legs getting longer, gold teeth, all of course based on false theologies to start with (story about gold in the fish's mouth). Hocus Pocus bologna. RUN!