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Christian hostages murdered by Somali Pirates
What should the Christ Followers response be?
What are you hearing today on social media from other believers? How does the conflict of dual citizenship (kingdom of God, and USA) affect you? |
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I haven't seen anything. I don't pray for revenge.
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I don't pray for revenge however I think the Navies of the free world need to more actively hunt these guys down and stop them before killing or kidnapping more innocent people
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There is a saying something like:
"The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church." Of course, things like this put some of us in a quandary. I saw on TV that one of the couples was traveling around and giving out the Scriptures. A Roman Catholic Monsignor mentioned that. To bad they were RCC and not UPC, now they'll go to hell in some folks opinion. |
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idolators are not christians.
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Im always surprised to hear something like this happening in that area. You'd think by now common sense would say to stay away from that area or be heavily armed and ready for a fire fight
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I think it is just a sad situation - six or eight people (depending on what I've heard) lost their lives for goodness sake! I think the Christian response should be to pray for the families of all the victims involved, including the pirates who were killed, pray for the captors who are still alive...they were trying to do the Lord's work...who am I to judge?
Only the Lord knows if they were welcomed in Heaven today...I just pray that I am half as willing to lay down my life for the gospel of Jesus Christ.... |
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The Christian response should be to learn from the mistakes of those other Christians. Apparently those Christians didn't have enough faith to move the gun-armed pirate mountain out of their way. So the Christian response should be to increase in faith before going to that part of the world again ;)
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These kind of rants by national Apostolic leaders just gets me...
Two Christian missionaries murdered, the president of USA, says nothing...GO FIGURE, now vote for him |
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I really don't know what to think about the whole fiasco as far as their afterlife. May God have mercy on their souls-- that's all I can hope for them and for me when my time comes.
Immediately, I was bothered by the fact that these pirates were not hesitant enough about killing multiple American citizens-- while negotiations were happening! This event is a FAILURE of EPIC proportions of our military and indirectly, of our President. Really, it would have been better for us to not have negotiated at all with these clowns than for us to negotiate and for it to end like this. EPIC FAIL! Our response needs to be SEVERE! The actions of these Somali pirates are very provacative. They would have indicted their entire nation, if the forsaken ones over there had a government in the first place. I expect our President, with the use of our military, to do something about this killing of innocent Americans. |
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READ MY LIPS!
If President Obama does NOTHING about this, I will campaign against him. I won't quietly abstain, I will vocally oppose him! He better DO something and it BETTER be effective! |
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Do what, Jermyn? Do what? Increase military presence? This is not a nation committing these crimes. They are rogue gangsters that swarm the waters.
This is not a political liability at all. Obama is not on a boat ship, playing the part of Chuck Norris for us all, saving the day. It's disgusting the way many have made these murders another political rant against Obama. In fact, it's out of bounds! This is a matter of concern for the entire international community. |
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Go slit throats of random Somolians? Invade a sovereign land? What are you calling for exactly Jermyn? This was the entire point of the thread... what is the Christian response... |
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http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-mar...gainst-pirates The fact that the President did not make an official statement on this yet reminds me of how W was treated, everything was blamed on him, he never responded quick enough, etc... |
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Sam, as intelligent as you are, you speak like a fool. Oh yes, Obama is thrilled that the infidels were killed. Keep up your bubble of disillusionment you live in. About as ridiculous as those who chided Bush for being a racist at every opportunity. And another thing, Obama is not a Muslim. He says he's not. He's not. Quit making ........ up. Last I checked lying wasn't a good thing. |
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If they are it wouldn't matter anyway. |
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And it's completely irrelevant. |
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I would think that there are pretty few Roman Catholics at Fuller Seminary where Scott Underwood Adam taught, anyhow. |
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Why should we do something about it? Because Americans were killed-- while we were NEGOTIATING with them nonetheless! YES President Obama stands criticism for this FAILURE of EPIC proportions! It happened on his watch. Furthermore, this isn't the first time that Americans have been captured by these pirates. OUR PRESIDENT NEEDS TO LEAD! This IS a Chrsitian response. I am a Christian and this is my response. We pray for the souls of the dead. We pray and attempt to comfort the hearts of their living loved ones and in honor of the senseless MURDERS of our AMERICAN citizens, we go! We go to those waters were our brothers and sisters were killed and we clean house. Plainly speaking, we go there and we kill the pirates that fight us in our efforts to bring lawfulness and peace to that region. Christianity does allow for killing of other people. This is one of those occasions where a military response is not just necessary, but indeed it has been INVITED by the actions of the pirates that had the GUMPTION to KILL our citizens while our MILITARY was attempting to NEGOTIATE PEACEFULLY! The Somali pirates in that region have asked for it. We need to bring it and do so speedily! |
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Fortunately, the last show down resulted in 0 innocent casualties since during negotiating snipers had a clear shot. Obama gave 100% auth to engage militarily as needed with the captors. |
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How many American citizens have been harrassed by Somali pirates on President Obama's watch?
Why would he not be responsible? That's what Executives are-- RESPONSIBLE! |
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Blood, war and revenge. Totally sounds like Mt 5-7 ethics -- not!!
Note: Somolia is a nation, not sure where you got your facts on that one. Also, did you read Sec Clinton's statement posted? |
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The first news report I read said that the US Naval vessel that was shadowing the sailboat heard gunshots coming from the sailboat. That's when they boarded in force. Several hijackers were killed, the rest captured. The Americans (4 in number) were immediately treated but succumbed to their wounds... and then it said that the Navy found the remains of two more pirates aboard. Early reports from actions like this are notoriously sketchy and even contradictory - but did the Americans attempt to overcome the pirates? I guess we'll have to wait and see. |
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Your call for invaded a sovereign border is a lousy precedent at already unstable times. Greater military presence is probably best. Still never fool-proof. These are first civilian casualties. |
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They weren't jihadists out to "spread the faith." They were openly involved in piracy - which is condoned by the Koran and Hadiths as long as the pirates follow certain restrictions and prey only on "infidels." But, piracy isn't generally a course one would expect to be taught at the Madrasah. |
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this isn't baseball where you give the opposing team the chance to strike out three times before forcing them to leave the dugout. Americans died! They killed them while we were trying to negotiate with them! Do you not realize the level of disrespect for this country their actions displayed? They killed Americans while our military was attempting to negotiate their release. Their actions are grounds for war. We should kill Somali pirates who stand in the way of OUR efforts to bring order to that region. And YES, this would be one of those occasions where it would be a good thing for America to act with the safety of people around the world in mind. |
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How is the discussion about a Christian response vs. our tension of a political response insensitive? :blink |
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I'm typing behind a keyboard. The real patriots are still fighting. I support the patriots now. |
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Grounds for war? Against who????? Listen to yourself. First reaction is always full scale "show them whose boss." That's not smart. That's how we get another Mogadishu. Helping to restore order in government in Somalia is certainly helpful. Being GI Joe of the world, and marching onto foreign soil because of this recent incident isn't logical, helpful or even the smartest response. It's called emotional knee jerk. |
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I will tone down the emotionalism. |
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These are pirates stealing from merchants, taking hostages to get ransom money, not sovereign nations declaring war or attacking other sovereign nations. You're starting to sound like the Bush Doctrine on crack. |
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