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Dagwood 03-09-2011 09:08 PM

I/Me/My Syndrome
 
Plain and simply put, when I saw this video I was left with disbelief since it reeks with the I/Me/My Syndrome...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZpJH...embedded#at=81

I would welcome any thoughts or other examples...

Hoovie 03-09-2011 09:18 PM

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Very catchy tune... can't stand most of the words though.

Dagwood 03-09-2011 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1043066)
Very catchy tune... can't stand most of the words though.

Understandably, not all traditional Pentecostal peeps are victims of haughty arrogance like this. But, specifically, this just makes me sick and hope all the more some people will wake up and realize the message they're conveying is one of pride, selfishness, and division...

OldPathsII 03-09-2011 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwood (Post 1043061)
Plain and simply put, when I saw this video I was left with disbelief since it reeks with the I/Me/My Syndrome...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZpJH...embedded#at=81

I would welcome any thoughts or other examples...





What an absolutely INCREDIBLE song!!! Wow, that almost had me dancing around my living room!!! Glory!!! God bless Bro. Nathaniel Haney for writing that song! He is a great voice of truth to this generation!!!!

Dagwood 03-09-2011 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OldPathsII (Post 1043078)
What an absolutely INCREDIBLE song!!! Wow, that almost had me dancing around my living room!!! Glory!!! God bless Bro. Nathaniel Haney for writing that song! He is a great voice of truth to this generation!!!!

LOL hysterically...gotta love your staunch devotion to the Organization...

Hoovie 03-09-2011 09:36 PM

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Different strokes for different folks.

OldPathsII 03-09-2011 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwood (Post 1043082)
LOL hysterically...gotta love your staunch devotion to the Organization...



To the ORGANIZATION???? My dear brother, it has nothing to do with an organization!! I'm not even a member of the UPC, but I believe in it, I fellowship with it, and I'll stand and defend it!!

Jason B 03-09-2011 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1043066)
Very catchy tune... can't stand most of the words though.

Yep

Dagwood 03-09-2011 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OldPathsII (Post 1043091)
To the ORGANIZATION???? My dear brother, it has nothing to do with an organization!! I'm not even a member of the UPC, but I believe in it, I fellowship with it, and I'll stand and defend it!!

You are one confused brotha, let me tell ya...not a member, yet you "believe in it, fellowship with it, and I'll stand and defend it."

Okay, good for you. I won't dispute. In the meantime, for the rest of us that defend the Word for what it is, instead of what it is not and adding 10,000 commandments, we'll carry on in fellowship under the umbrella of grace and compassion as opposed to your umbrella of greed and condemnation...

TGBTG 03-09-2011 10:07 PM

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All I can say is wow...

I'd rather sing these songs.

There is a fountain filled with blood drawn from Emmanuel’s veins;
And sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains.
Lose all their guilty stains, lose all their guilty stains;
And sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains.

OR

Down at the cross where my Savior died,
Down where for cleansing from sin I cried,
There to my heart was the blood applied;
Glory to His Name!

These songs remind me how I did not merit God's grace, but while I was a sinner, He died for me. I belong to Christ (not an organization), washed in the precious blood the Lamb of God.

They sing "I'm a pentecostal, I'm not ashamed."

I sing "I'm a blood bought believer in Jesus Christ, I'm not ashamed."

Just my $0.02 FWIW

Dagwood 03-09-2011 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG (Post 1043105)
All I can say is wow...

I'd rather sing these songs.

There is a fountain filled with blood drawn from Emmanuel’s veins;
And sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains.
Lose all their guilty stains, lose all their guilty stains;
And sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains.

OR

Down at the cross where my Savior died,
Down where for cleansing from sin I cried,
There to my heart was the blood applied;
Glory to His Name!

These songs remind me how I did not merit God's grace, but while I was a sinner, He died for me. I belong to Christ (not an organization), washed in the precious blood the Lamb of God.

They sing "I'm a pentecostal, I'm not ashamed."

I sing "I'm a blood bought believer in Jesus Christ, I'm not ashamed."

Just my $0.02 FWIW

I could not agree with you more! :thumbsup

OldPathsII 03-09-2011 10:33 PM

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Dagwood, I've jsut gotta thank you one more time for posting that song! Man, oh man, you made my night! I'm feeling revival!!! Glooorrrray!!!!

Dagwood 03-10-2011 07:23 AM

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LOL, so glad you are! I would too if it was singing the praises of God and not about me...

Austin 03-10-2011 07:24 AM

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I'm not UPC in doctrine but I loved it!!!!! She sounded a lot better than that woman of the world most of us use to listen to and then when we would get out on the dance floor with a half gallon of that witches brew in our belling and dancing around like some D.A that we were. The words that were being sang about how stupid we were loving somebody that was with our best friend. Those words then didn't seems to bother us. But now that we are all cleaned up and knnowledgeable in the word this sort of thing offends us.Thank God you don't have to second guess if they are alive!
Some of you guys better be a little careful what you attacking.
I'm old enough to remember when they use to throw rocks and rotten eggs at the church building when we were in there on our knees praying for them the sinners that they might come to Jesus and be saved. When we were in the community people from other churches would laugh and make jokes about us. They would shun us and say we were of the devil.
I wish I had been at that convention I would have shown them how an old Baptacostol can really dance!!!

Dagwood 03-10-2011 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Austin (Post 1043232)
I'm not UPC in doctrine but I love it!!!!! She sounded a lot better than that woman of the world most of us use to listen to and then when we wouold get out on the dance floor with a half gallon of that witches brew in our belling and dancing around like some D.A that we were. The words then didn't wseem to bother us.
Some of you guys better be a little careful what you attacking.

Attacking? Seriously??? You need to do a little more research. You, my friend, may not be UPC. But, to blatantly call this an "attack" makes me think you've got a lot of learning to do. Stay within your close-knit circle of "friends" and keep on patting yourself on the back for what you are and what you stand for. In the meantime, there's a whole world out my front door that people like you would overlook in a heartbeat just by your arrogance and holy ghost boldness...

ILG 03-10-2011 07:29 AM

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I actually enjoyed that for the most part. I thought if I listened to it, I would emotionally whig out. But it wasn't too bad.

Dagwood 03-10-2011 07:32 AM

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The song serves nothing more than to boost self-pride. Yes, I love the rythm. It's very catchy. No problem there. But, it's all about I/Me/My, isn't it?

ILG 03-10-2011 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagwood (Post 1043238)
The song serves nothing more than to boost self-pride. Yes, I love the rythm. It's very catchy. No problem there. But, it's all about I/Me/My, isn't it?

Yeah, but so what. Shrug.

Austin 03-10-2011 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagwood (Post 1043235)
Attacking? Seriously??? You need to do a little more research. You, my friend, may not be UPC. But, to blatantly call this an "attack" makes me think you've got a lot of learning to do. Stay within your close-knit circle of "friends" and keep on patting yourself on the back for what you are and what you stand for. In the meantime, there's a whole world out my front door that people like you would overlook in a heartbeat just by your arrogance and holy ghost boldness...

Are you just a little argry? At who me, or something they did to you?

Dagwood 03-10-2011 07:44 AM

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I'm not angry at all. It just amazes me at what still continues with some people. But, that's okay because there will come a day that things are put into perspective for the staunchest (if that's even a word), devout, traditional people. No, not all traditional Pentecostal peeps are like what this video portrays...much like not every person that dresses in a disapproving way (according to some UPC-ers) are hellbound and unholy...

ILG 03-10-2011 07:48 AM

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I am really glad to have gotten away from the church. I can look back with some compassion and regard for the people who are there. Do I still have anger over the things that happened? Sure. But I guess it has faded quite a bit. The best thing I ever did was walk out the door.

Austin 03-10-2011 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagwood (Post 1043244)
I'm not angry at all. It just amazes me at what still continues with some people. But, that's okay because there will come a day that things are put into perspective for the staunchest (if that's even a word), devout, traditional people. No, not all traditional Pentecostal peeps are like what this video portrays...much like not every person that dresses in a disapproving way (according to some UPC-ers) are hellbound and unholy...

When you used the words,[ what still continues] I take it you use to be in the UPC? I was at one time and I don't agree with a lot of their legal ideas about controlling people like they do. It's discouraging to me to see God's people put into bondage with fear tactics. I think one of the things that made me wake up was this. A UPC preacher boldly stated that all the people in other churches outside of the UPC are going to hell. That kind of self-righteousness arrogance is what I hate and so does Jesus. And I've heard other things with the same content. But as far as the video well, people are just people and they get caught up in a mind set and it carries over into their emotional center and then comes out of their mouth.
I have been around long enough to have seen error in all belief. I just try to remember where Jesus brought me from and the evil darkness that I was in.
Peace of God between us.

Dagwood 03-10-2011 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Austin (Post 1043267)
When you used the words,[ what still continues] I take it you use to be in the UPC? I was at one time and I don't agree with a lot of their legal ideas about controlling people like they do. It's discouraging to me to see God's people put into bondage with fear tactics. I think one of the things that made me wake up was this. A UPC preacher boldly stated that all the people in other churches outside of the UPC are going to hell. That kind of self-righteousness arrogance is what I hate and so does Jesus. And I've heard other things with the same content. But as far as the video well, people are just people and they get caught up in a mind set and it carries over into their emotional center and then comes out of their mouth.
I have been around long enough to have seen error in all belief. I just try to remember where Jesus brought me from and the evil darkness that I was in.
Peace of God between us.

Much agreed with you! I'm not so much interested in stirring trouble as I am to get people to wake up and realize what's going on. We can sit around all day long and talk about where God has brought us...but we can't forget there's a world of people beyond the walls of our home that need salvation and redemption.

I used the video to prove my point that it's not about us; it's about God and what He can do for others. There's enough in the world about I/me/my. Why would the church, who can be so critical of people not like them, do the same thing yet point on the world's selfishness? Should I say the pot's calling the kettle black?

It's all good; I wasn't trying to come down harsh on my reply earlier. But, it got my eyes raised to the ceiling when I read your initial response... :)

Austin 03-10-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagwood (Post 1043271)
Much agreed with you! I'm not so much interested in stirring trouble as I am to get people to wake up and realize what's going on. We can sit around all day long and talk about where God has brought us...but we can't forget there's a world of people beyond the walls of our home that need salvation and redemption.

I used the video to prove my point that it's not about us; it's about God and what He can do for others. There's enough in the world about I/me/my. Why would the church, who can be so critical of people not like them, do the same thing yet point on the world's selfishness? Should I say the pot's calling the kettle black?

It's all good; I wasn't trying to come down harsh on my reply earlier. But, it got my eyes raised to the ceiling when I read your initial response... :)

We're sailing in the same boat and Jesus is the captain. Keep doing what your doing for others, let your light shine and maybe some of those people we are discussing will see it and come out of where they are to a better experience in the Lord Jesus. God's blessing on you my brother in Christ.

aegsm76 03-10-2011 08:51 AM

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It's amazing to me how many threads have been devoted to this song.
Most of those who don't like it just use it as another chance for an underhanded attack on the UPC.

Theophil 03-10-2011 09:02 AM

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I don't understand why every time someone posts about the "sins" of the UPCI or WPF...pride, ignorance, disregard for scripture by extra-biblical traditions, there is always someone that comes along and tries to make it about the person who wrote the post. Why don't you detractors of Dagwood quit accusing him of having some hidden agenda and deal with the issue? The UPCI has some major problems that are not going to be resolved by sticking your head in the sand, or your fingers in your ears and going, "na,na,na,na,na,".

Austin 03-10-2011 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1043280)
It's amazing to me how many threads have been devoted to this song.
Most of those who don't like it just use it as another chance for an underhanded attack on the UPC.

I went back and listened to it twice. I like the song and can appreciate it because I have a full understanding why she is singing it. I might listen to it three times before the days is out. I wish I knew it back 35 years ago when anything with the title of Pentecostal was labeled by churches and people as Holy Rollers and fanatics, and Jesus freaks, and cults, and devil worshippers, and satanist, and crazy people, I guess I could go on but I won't.

Austin 03-10-2011 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Theophil (Post 1043287)
I don't understand why every time someone posts about the "sins" of the UPCI or WPF...pride, ignorance, disregard for scripture by extra-biblical traditions, there is always someone that comes along and tries to make it about the person who wrote the post. Why don't you detractors of Dagwood quit accusing him of having some hidden agenda and deal with the issue? The UPCI has some major problems that are not going to be resolved by sticking your head in the sand, or your fingers in your ears and going, "na,na,na,na,na,".

Are you without sin[sins of the UPC]] that you can declare someone else sinful? What manner of person are you that your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of others? I honestly think the problems of the UPC are the Lord's responsibility if you try to change that your self then you in retrospect have done the same as they.

Dagwood 03-10-2011 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1043280)
It's amazing to me how many threads have been devoted to this song.
Most of those who don't like it just use it as another chance for an underhanded attack on the UPC.

And I'll correct you as well. I'm not attacking. So, keep patting yourself on the back and let it all be about you, you, you. For the rest of us, we'll be away from the mainstream non-sense and actually be making a difference just to make people like you look good sitting on your golden throne...:)

Theophil 03-10-2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Austin (Post 1043295)
Are you without sin[sins of the UPC]] that you can declare someone else sinful? What manner of person are you that your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of others? I honestly think the problems of the UPC are the Lord's responsibility if you try to change that your self then you in retrospect have done the same as they.

Are you stating that you are unaware of any "sins" associated with the UPCI or WPF? If you are making such a statement I will have to seriously doubt your credibility.

faithit166 03-10-2011 10:10 AM

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i cany click on the link can someone tell me the name of the song and who sang it thanks

Dagwood 03-10-2011 10:19 AM

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I'm a Pentecostal by CLC...

faithit166 03-10-2011 10:21 AM

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thanks dagwood love that song ,thats what i am praise god

Dagwood 03-10-2011 10:24 AM

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Thanks for making a statement which mirrors the video and confirms the very point I'm making...:)

faithit166 03-10-2011 10:25 AM

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oh, and did i say i am not ashamed

Apprehended 03-10-2011 10:27 AM

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Great testimonial songs are often filled with I, me, my, and other personal references.

I love the old song:

Once a sinner far from Jesus I was perishing with cold
but the blessed saviour hear ME when I cried.
The he put his arms around ME and led ME to the fold
Now I'm living on the Halleaujah side.

In reality, I don't know how you could sing a testimonial song without a personal reference.

Dagwood 03-10-2011 10:28 AM

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Of course not! I'm not ashamed of my faith and belief system either since mine isn't full of pride, arrogance, and condemnation...perhaps the veil will be removed from your face, you know, that's something many Pentecostals preach about regarding others...again, another instance of the pot calling the kettle black...:)

Dagwood 03-10-2011 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 1043359)
Great testimonial songs are often filled with I, me, my, and other personal references.

I love the old song:

Once a sinner far from Jesus I was perishing with cold
but the blessed saviour hear ME when I cried.
The he put his arms around ME and led ME to the fold
Now I'm living on the Halleaujah side.

In reality, I don't know how you could sing a testimonial song without a personal reference.

I don't dispute that. As long as there's a balance in the songs that are sung, it won't convey the wrong message. So many people get so big-headed from singing those songs whether they realize it or not. Seriously, I don't dispute singing about what God has done for you, me, or anyone else. But when it gets down right ridiculous as this video I've posted, seriously...come on! :foottap

Austin 03-10-2011 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Theophil (Post 1043324)
Are you stating that you are unaware of any "sins" associated with the UPCI or WPF? If you are making such a statement I will have to seriously doubt your credibility.

No, I'm trying to make you aware that you are not without sin that you can judge another's sins because of the content of your posts when you were sticking up for Dagwood. The real issue is this. That song was picked out to prove a secular point against someone. If it were not then the song before and the one after should have been played also to give the defendant a fair trial.

Apprehended 03-10-2011 01:50 PM

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What scares me is that bass player at about 23 or 24 seconds into it.


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