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berkeley 03-15-2011 07:16 PM

**preacher forums**
 
Are you a member of preacher forums? Why or why not? If so, how are preacher forums different than AFF?

CC1 03-15-2011 07:32 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
No. Because I am not currently a "preacher". Depends on what preacher forum you are referring to as how are they different from AFF. I would imagine the Southern Baptist preacher forums differ quite a bit from the Episcopalian ones, etc, etc, and all of them different from AFF.

berkeley 03-15-2011 07:36 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
The apostolic preacher forums...

seguidordejesus 03-15-2011 07:40 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
If I told you I'd have to kill you.

berkeley 03-15-2011 07:44 PM

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*yawn*

AncientPaths 03-15-2011 08:09 PM

Yawn indeed.

Charnock 03-15-2011 08:27 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkley (Post 1045676)
Are you a member of preacher forums? Why or why not? If so, how are preacher forums different than AFF?

No, not since they became havens for adulterers, perverts and pretend preachers.

Preachers forums thrive on ferreting out "rats" and holiness nonconformists but they will cover their buddies sins better than a dog buries his favorite bone.

berkeley 03-15-2011 08:31 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Ha. Is that why you removed your articles?

Charnock 03-15-2011 08:34 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkley (Post 1045696)
Ha. Is that why you removed your articles?

Yep. I would have erased everything if it didn't take so long. :)

They complain about AFF, but AFF is tame comparatively.

Timmy 03-15-2011 08:42 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
I have yet to be kicked out of a preachers-only forum.

Charnock 03-15-2011 08:43 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1045703)
I have yet to be kicked out of a preachers-only forum.

You must be a very good boy.

Timmy 03-15-2011 08:50 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1045704)
You must be a very good boy.

Sure! I'm a very good boy. :haloplug

Praxeas 03-15-2011 08:51 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
It's amazing the sexual innuendos that they engage in yet rail against a woman for trimming her hair?

mizpeh 03-15-2011 08:53 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1045695)
No, not since they became havens for adulterers, perverts and pretend preachers.

Preachers forums thrive on ferreting out "rats" and holiness nonconformists but they will cover their buddies sins better than a dog buries his favorite bone.

Hypocrites?

berkeley 03-15-2011 08:53 PM

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**no comment**

Charnock 03-15-2011 08:55 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkley (Post 1045711)
**no comment**

Then why did you start the thread? Why should anyone else comment?

Charnock 03-15-2011 08:56 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1045708)
It's amazing the sexual innuendos that they engage in yet rail against a woman for trimming her hair?

Amen.

Not to mention the character assassinations and out and out gossip that occurs in the name of protecting "truth."

Praxeas 03-15-2011 09:03 PM

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Yeah...out a Pastor for not being as conservative on TV as some but protect the pastor who cheated on his wife "Oh let's not judge. Just pray for him" good grief

Charnock 03-15-2011 09:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1045716)
Yeah...out a Pastor for not being as conservative on TV as some but protect the pastor who cheated on his wife "Oh let's not judge. Just pray for him" good grief

And that's exactly what made me leave. The logic is twisted.

AncientPaths 03-15-2011 09:07 PM

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I was recently told of a tsunami thread where a poster joked about a wave hitting northern california and polluting the water with "queers" and "homos". But, since it's a preacher's forum, I figure my friend must have been mistaken.

berkeley 03-15-2011 09:15 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1045713)
Then why did you start the thread? Why should anyone else comment?

That was for effect

Apprehended 03-15-2011 09:22 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
I don't like this thread and would rather Admin to delete it. It is not serving a good purpose and is giving occasion to unholy conjecture against men of God.

Admin?

Chateau d'If 03-15-2011 09:25 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
I like this thread and ask admin to keep it open.

Pressing-On 03-15-2011 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 1045720)
I don't like this thread and would rather Admin to delete it. It is not serving a good purpose and is giving occasion to unholy conjecture against men of God.

Admin?

I agree. He who is without sin, cast the first stone.

Charnock 03-15-2011 09:39 PM

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This is why they continue to pull the crud they pull. Everybody covers for them.

Bowas 03-15-2011 09:40 PM

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Preacher forums are a closely guarded secret as far as content.
Sometimes though they will talk about *****but it usually doesn't get along to far before it gets hijack and almost always it will turn to *****.
That in and of itself is not too bad, but when they get on ***** it gets strange. But then again, when Bro. ***** talks about *****,
Bro. ******* will question him which is always entertaining.
Lots of :blah:blah:blah :happydance
Hope this helps.

Bro. *******

notofworks 03-15-2011 09:53 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkley (Post 1045676)
Are you a member of preacher forums? Why or why not? If so, how are preacher forums different than AFF?



Absolutely not, not now, not ever. I would never belong to a "preacher-only" anything.

Pressing-On 03-15-2011 09:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1045728)
This is why they continue to pull the crud they pull. Everybody covers for them.

Just some thoughts rolling around in my brain.

I was thinking about the scripture - "And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors." Matthew 6:12

I have two questions:

Do you think all sins are equal in God's eyes, except for blasphemy against the Holy Ghost?

Do you believe that if you have sinned, regardless of whether (past or present) it's lying, stealing, fornication, adultery, etc., etc., and that if you were to gossip about someone's sins that God won't forgive your sins according to Matthew 6:12?

I was also thinking about James 5:16 "Confess your faults one to another,"

At what point in our lives does that verse become real and make us have such unity in the body that we could "confess our faults" and have not have them spoken about openly, gossiped about privately, etc.?

berkeley 03-15-2011 10:01 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Thank you, sistah sanctimony.

bishoph 03-15-2011 10:23 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1045695)
No, not since they became havens for adulterers, perverts and pretend preachers.

Preachers forums thrive on ferreting out "rats" and holiness nonconformists but they will cover their buddies sins better than a dog buries his favorite bone.


You know, I read this and I cannot understand why some paint with such a broad brush. I am a member of three different "preacher only" forums, and (while I admit I am not in the inner circle of any group) I have never seen what you describe here. (the bolded)

What I have seen is men who have fallen (at least those that I have heard about) have been removed from the forums, and while no-one specifically calls out their name and castigates them publicly, I have never seen anyone liberal/con who excused the sin or tried to minimize the sinfulness of it.

I guess some people are not satisfied unless every name of every failed minister is openly named and publicly castigated......so much for charity. (And I am not suggesting covering sin as in allowing it for my friends, family etc)

Pressing-On 03-15-2011 10:26 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 1045743)
You know, I read this and I cannot understand why some paint with such a broad brush. I am a member of three different "preacher only" forums, and (while I admit I am not in the inner circle of any group) I have never seen what you describe here. (the bolded)

What I have seen is men who have fallen (at least those that I have heard about) have been removed from the forums, and while no-one specifically calls out their name and castigates them publicly, I have never seen anyone liberal/con who excused the sin or tried to minimize the sinfulness of it.

I guess some people are not satisfied unless every name of every failed minister is openly named and publicly castigated......so much for charity. (And I am not suggesting covering sin as in allowing it for my friends, family etc)

Good post! :thumbsup

Praxeas 03-15-2011 10:31 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 1045743)
You know, I read this and I cannot understand why some paint with such a broad brush. I am a member of three different "preacher only" forums, and (while I admit I am not in the inner circle of any group) I have never seen what you describe here. (the bolded)

What I have seen is men who have fallen (at least those that I have heard about) have been removed from the forums, and while no-one specifically calls out their name and castigates them publicly, I have never seen anyone liberal/con who excused the sin or tried to minimize the sinfulness of it.

I guess some people are not satisfied unless every name of every failed minister is openly named and publicly castigated......so much for charity. (And I am not suggesting covering sin as in allowing it for my friends, family etc)

Did you ever see a minister named for not preaching standards anymore?

Sam 03-15-2011 10:36 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1045708)
It's amazing the sexual innuendos that they engage in yet rail against a woman for trimming her hair?

straining out a gnat but swallowing a camel?

Sam 03-15-2011 10:41 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 1045731)
Absolutely not, not now, not ever. I would never belong to a "preacher-only" anything.

Oh, did they reject your application for membership?

Just kidding.

I just can't picture you being part of a group like that.
You are too independent in your thinking and too honest to go along with that kind of stuff.

I've never even tried to be a part of it.
That's just not who or what I am.

P.S. I preached this past Sunday for a pastor who is a strong three-stepper and there was no problem. He knows what I believe and I don't make an issue out of it.

bishoph 03-15-2011 10:42 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1045751)
Did you ever see a minister named for not preaching standards anymore?

Short answer....Yes.

Long answer: The accusation was that men are "ferreted out" for holiness non-conformity. I take that to mean that members of said forums are "outed" if they do not hold to the accepted norms of the holiness police so to speak. And quite frankly I have not seen that.

Often men who hold differing views "out" themselves, and then sometimes heated discussions follow. However, with the exception of a very conservative forum, (and even there it was after many months of discussion) I have never seen anyone kicked out over standards. Now doctrinal issues (non standards) is another story. (And again IMHO if a forum has a stated doctrinal creed if you will, I think it is fine to require conformity on those stated matters.)

Praxeas 03-15-2011 10:55 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 1045758)
Short answer....Yes.

Long answer: The accusation was that men are "ferreted out" for holiness non-conformity. I take that to mean that members of said forums are "outed" if they do not hold to the accepted norms of the holiness police so to speak. And quite frankly I have not seen that.

Often men who hold differing views "out" themselves, and then sometimes heated discussions follow. However, with the exception of a very conservative forum, (and even there it was after many months of discussion) I have never seen anyone kicked out over standards. Now doctrinal issues (non standards) is another story. (And again IMHO if a forum has a stated doctrinal creed if you will, I think it is fine to require conformity on those stated matters.)

But is it "ok" to name some UPC pastor, not even a forum member, and speculate and accuse him of being of being weak on standards while NOT doing the same regarding a UPC pastor that committed adultery on their sin of adultery? Is non-comformity to standards somehow worse than adultery?

Sam 03-15-2011 11:02 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1045763)
... Is non-comformity to standards somehow worse than adultery?

yes, adultery is a venial sin
and
not preaching standards is mortal sin.

Ron 03-15-2011 11:03 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 1045720)
I don't like this thread and would rather Admin to delete it. It is not serving a good purpose and is giving occasion to unholy conjecture against men of God.

Admin?

I agree! Also, it is full of flat out lies!:mad:

Ron 03-15-2011 11:05 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 1045743)
You know, I read this and I cannot understand why some paint with such a broad brush. I am a member of three different "preacher only" forums, and (while I admit I am not in the inner circle of any group) I have never seen what you describe here. (the bolded)

What I have seen is men who have fallen (at least those that I have heard about) have been removed from the forums, and while no-one specifically calls out their name and castigates them publicly, I have never seen anyone liberal/con who excused the sin or tried to minimize the sinfulness of it.

I guess some people are not satisfied unless every name of every failed minister is openly named and publicly castigated......so much for charity. (And I am not suggesting covering sin as in allowing it for my friends, family etc)

:thumbsup

berkeley 03-15-2011 11:06 PM

Re: **preacher forums**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1045766)
I agree! Also, it is full of flat out lies!:mad:

Are you a member of the forum that Charnock has in mind?


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