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DAII 03-18-2011 05:01 PM

Pastor Goes Too Far With the "F" Word
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE_7Ogze-V0

mfblume 03-18-2011 05:04 PM

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My oh my.

Jason B 03-18-2011 05:30 PM

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How stupid. Yeah, what a witness that would be to text everyone and call everyone "FU".

seguidordejesus 03-18-2011 05:45 PM

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lol

DAII 03-18-2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by seguidordejesus (Post 1047623)
lol

Ya gone Catholic, bro?

Truthseeker 03-18-2011 06:02 PM

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Shame, watch somewhere here defend it.

DAII 03-18-2011 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1047633)
Shame, watch somewhere here defend it.

:smack

canam 03-18-2011 06:46 PM

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DANIEL,I am predicting that admin. is NOT going to Forgive.U.

seguidordejesus 03-18-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1047632)
Ya gone Catholic, bro?

You get a LOL for that, as well.

ImThankful 03-18-2011 07:06 PM

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I think there could have been another way to get his point across.

notofworks 03-18-2011 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ImThankful (Post 1047658)
I think there could have been another way to get his point across.



You buncha armchair quarterbacks, be quiet and go preach your own sermons! He connected with his audience in a creative way and inspired people to be forgiving. I liked it. :thumbsup

Truthseeker 03-18-2011 07:23 PM

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see, told ya!

DAII 03-18-2011 07:32 PM

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God bless the Puritans

notofworks 03-18-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1047661)
see, told ya!



Only on a forum of prudes would someone find fault with a speaker encouraging his congregants to forgive people who have hurt them. But it's ok, I forgive you.:hug4

rgcraig 03-18-2011 07:43 PM

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I don't get it.

notofworks 03-18-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1047676)
I don't get it.



Uh oh.

berkeley 03-18-2011 08:22 PM

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Right, there was no other way to encourage the people to be forgiving. Ridiculous.

Truthseeker 03-18-2011 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by berkeley (Post 1047694)
Right, there was no other way to encourage the people to be forgiving. Ridiculous.

Yep, disgrace indeed.

berkeley 03-18-2011 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1047695)
Yep, disgrace indeed.

I'm amazed at the lengths some people go to be "relevant." Oh, I'm sure we're the ones with a problem, right?

berkeley 03-18-2011 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1047676)
I don't get it.

Really? Replace the "f" expletive with the word "forgive" and you have the new "f.u.":foottap

notofworks 03-18-2011 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by berkeley (Post 1047696)
I'm amazed at the lengths some people go to be "relevant." Oh, I'm sure we're the ones with a problem, right?


Yep, you sure are.

Austin 03-18-2011 08:41 PM

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Why even put something like that on here. Don't we get enough of it in the world around us?

notofworks 03-18-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by berkeley (Post 1047697)
Really? Replace the "f" expletive with the word "forgive" and you have the new "f.u.":foottap



There was naivety happening here but it wasn't Renda. :lol

berkeley 03-18-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin (Post 1047702)
Why even put something like that on here. Don't we get enough of it in the world around us?

You're just old. Be relevant.

Truthseeker 03-18-2011 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin (Post 1047702)
Why even put something like that on here. Don't we get enough of it in the world around us?

You aint hip to the new soulwinning ways, man. Just wear hip trendy tshirts and make sure you are relevant.

Austin 03-18-2011 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1047711)
You aint hip to the new soulwinning ways, man. Just wear hip trendy tshirts and make sure you are relevant.


This is what old guys think; That's ignorance at it's finest. Some people have to come up with all kinds of entertaining stuff now days to keep their audience attention. I would think that shirt was all he had to say and then he could have went an sat down. I would have been rolling..

StillStanding 03-18-2011 09:02 PM

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I think that it was brilliant! Really! I guaranty you that the church will never forget about forgiveness ever again! They'll think about it every time they hear someone cuss! When all of the other sermons have faded, this one will go with them to their grave!

Austin 03-18-2011 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway (Post 1047716)
I think that it was brilliant! Really! I guaranty you that the church will never forget about forgiveness ever again! They'll think about it every time they hear someone cuss! When all of the other sermons have faded, this one will go with them to their grave!

Yep your probably right. When all the sermons that edify have passed away then they will remember something they can associate with their past..and maybe in some cases their presents.

notofworks 03-18-2011 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway (Post 1047716)
I think that it was brilliant! Really! I guaranty you that the church will never forget about forgiveness ever again! They'll think about it every time they hear someone cuss! When all of the other sermons have faded, this one will go with them to their grave!



Exactly!!!! How many people can remember what they heard even this last Sunday? I don't have the nerve...I'll admit it....to do what he did. But he made a good point and he spoke the language of the audience, he connected, and I would guarantee that people forgave that desperately needed to.

But of course, the critics need to gripe. If you don't like what he did, go do a better job.

"Relevant" is not a dirty word. It simply means the ability to connect with the audience and produce life-change, something that rarely happens in the pentecostal-performance sermons.

Austin 03-18-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 1047720)
Exactly!!!! How many people can remember what they heard even this last Sunday? I don't have the nerve...I'll admit it....to do what he did. But he made a good point and he spoke the language of the audience, he connected, and I would guarantee that people forgave that desperately needed to.

But of course, the critics need to gripe. If you don't like what he did, go do a better job.

"Relevant" is not a dirty word. It simply means the ability to connect with the audience and produce life-change, something that rarely happens in the pentecostal-performance sermons.

I could do a better job than that any day of the week and twice on Sunday/

StillStanding 03-18-2011 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin (Post 1047718)
Yep your probably right. When all the sermons that edify have passed away then they will remember something they can associate with their past..and maybe in some cases their presents.

He first quoted scripture on forgiveness. Are you saying that nothing in the sermon was edifying? Do you not think he made his point very strongly about forgiveness? He did associate it with something that is very prevalent in modern society. That's why I think it was brilliant!

We don't know if the people there cuss or not, but we can guess that they hear it on a daily basis somewhere. I know that I do. I will think of forgiveness of others wherever I hear it from now on! Is that bad?

StillStanding 03-18-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin (Post 1047721)
I could do a better job than that any day of the week and twice on Sunday/

OK, then! :blah

notofworks 03-18-2011 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin (Post 1047721)
I could do a better job than that any day of the week and twice on Sunday/


Alrighty then.

aegsm76 03-18-2011 09:30 PM

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Let not then your good be evil spoken of.
Abstain from all APPEARANCE of evil.

Jason B 03-18-2011 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway (Post 1047716)
I think that it was brilliant! Really! I guaranty you that the church will never forget about forgiveness ever again! They'll think about it every time they hear someone cuss! When all of the other sermons have faded, this one will go with them to their grave!

I'll always remember seeing the Steven Anderson youtube video "pisseth against the wall." I will always remember a preacher preaching veggie tales is ungodly, and that a load of other nonsense. I will always remember a preacher who brought styrafoam "to-go" boxes, placed them on the alter and told the congregation "come and get your blessing to go!" (I wasn't amused and was about 1 of 2 who didn't go get a blessing to go-my wife being the other).

Rememberance doesn't make a sermon great, content does. Relevance doesn't make a sermon great. Obama is considered a great orator, he can sway people. Professional wrestlers make a crowd love them or hate them, cause them, playing on the emotions. If you've got a congregation ready to "Get behind the preacher" just about anything can be said to a chorus of "amens".

I'm sickened, saddened, offended for the gospels sake, and I don't care what NOW thinks, that isn't godly, and it has no place in the pulpit.

berkeley 03-18-2011 10:00 PM

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Jason, great thoughts.

MissBrattified 03-18-2011 10:09 PM

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You know, I understand attention getters. I thought it was tasteless, but I chalked it up to nothing more than that until he said "turn to your neighbor and say FU."

It became offensive at that point.

When he said to text all the exes and say "fu?" Stupid and offensive. There's no way all those "exes" would know what FU meant unless accompanied by a long explanation about that Sunday's sermon. And furthermore, it can be condescending to offer an unsolicited "I forgive you."

MUCH better to offer an unsolicited "I'm sorry."

Scott Hutchinson 03-18-2011 10:13 PM

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Ok you pastors try this in your church and see if you don't get voted out.

*AQuietPlace* 03-18-2011 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 1047736)
You know, I understand attention getters. I thought it was tasteless, but I chalked it up to nothing more than that until he said "turn to your neighbor and say FU."

It became offensive at that point.

When he said to text all the exes and say "fu?" Stupid and offensive. There's no way all those "exes" would know what FU meant unless accompanied by a long explanation about that Sunday's sermon. And furthermore, it can be condescending to offer an unsolicited "I forgive you."

MUCH better to offer an unsolicited "I'm sorry."

:thumbsup

Jason B 03-18-2011 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 1047736)
You know, I understand attention getters. I thought it was tasteless, but I chalked it up to nothing more than that until he said "turn to your neighbor and say FU."

It became offensive at that point.

When he said to text all the exes and say "fu?" Stupid and offensive. There's no way all those "exes" would know what FU meant unless accompanied by a long explanation about that Sunday's sermon. And furthermore, it can be condescending to offer an unsolicited "I forgive you."

MUCH better to offer an unsolicited "I'm sorry.
"

AMEN!!!!

:highfive


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