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I know we all go around and around about our political opinions, but I really want to know what the Republican Party (T-Party) are FOR and AGAINST. In all sincerity. No Democrat issues, I already know about the Democrat Party.

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Your even asking this question is a glaring admission that you haven't studied the issue, because if you had, you wouldn't have to ask. "Tea Party" is, like, pretty much self-explanatory, to begin with. LOL!

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No, I am really serious. I thought the Tea Party is the Republican Party, but I do know that the news media tries to separate the two. Don't both have the same views? or maybe it is 3 parties now.

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The "Tea Party" is just a Grass Roots movement with in the "Conservative" Branch of political thinking. Most are Fiscal Conservatives (meaning that they want a Balanced Budget and Smaller Government) but remain (mostly) quiet on Social issues. They want the Federal Government to go back to its original intention. Intermediation between states, and to protect the states for foreign enemies. In the last 100 years, there has been a huge grab of State Rights by the Federal Government.

Not all Republicans are for a smaller government. Some are just RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) and vote more liberal / big government.

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In a few words, the Tea Party holds the "core principles" of what the Republican Party is supposed to stand for - limited government, strict adherence to our Constitution and free enterprise (Capitalism).

We don't like Rhinos and will ferret them out in the future. It is almost a 3-party system and may, eventually, grow into that.

One thing the Tea Party has effectively done, is grab the Republicans by the collar and shook them hard. If they don't listen, they will continue to have trouble.

Most of the Tea Party is saying, "Oh, you 'lost your way'? Why did you 'lose your way'? And why are you saying such a stupid thing - 'lost your way'? How exactly did that happen to you?"

Now the Republican Party has to prove they learned a lesson, which IMO, was an ignorant oversight to have had to learn in the first place.

If you want to read something in more detail:

What the Tea Party Movement Stands For

http://ezinearticles.com/?What-the-T...For&id=2129216

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OK this is what was on the website......The Tea Party movement is drawing people from all political stripes, social causes, and income brackets. It is drawing people who have never participated in any kind of politcal or grassroots movement before. What we have in common, and what holds us together, is a very deep love for the uniqueness of the United States of America, a desire for the limited government that our Founding Fathers created, a fairly "strict" interpretation of the Constitution, a belief in capitalism and free enterprise and a strong sense of personal responsibility.

This was a comment from J.Cook....After reading what the Tea Party Stands for I'm having to ask the question, "What does this party want to do with existing social programs like Social Security Retirement, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security Disability?" Sounds like they would dismantle all of it. I just wonder if they are prepared to absorb all the expense involved in caring for the elderly and disabled through their personal charity, etc. I also have to wonder if they have ever contemplated just what would happen to the social fabric and economy as a whole if such drastic measures were enacted.

Answer to J.Cook's comment by Matthew C......Seems to me like removing social security and similar programs then you force people to be more responsible and save up. The question I have for you John is how would you pay for all these programs since at the current rate they will bankrupt the country in something like 10 years?
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It seems to me that the Tea Party believes that you should fend for yourself. If you do not have food, then that is your fault, you must have made bad choices. If you are 65 years old, and lose your job or not able to work, then just survive the best way you can. Go to the dump and eat out of the trash cans.

My questions to the Tea Party folks.... How should we plan for our retirement? Social Security seems to have a good plan with a benefit of disability if one should become disable. Also if a man dies, there is a benefit to help his wife and children. .... To me Social Security sounds like a good investment.

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I think Social Security is great but its bankrupting quick. If it can't be fixed, something else needs to replace it. If we move back to a system without SOcial Security, that means that the families will then have to take care of the elderly. If they were not prepared and are poor, where does that leave the elderly then?

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TEA stands for
Taxed
Enough
Already

The TEA party is made up of Republicans, Democrats, and Independents who want to see taxes and spending brought under control and who want to limit involvement of the federal government in our local lives.

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I think seascapes is prejudiced. Too much propoganda from Media matters, Huffington, and the extreem left blogs to understand what the Tea party strives for,

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You are totally right.....I read in the AARP magazine, that Social Security is not short of money, and it is good until 2037 (I believe that was the year) It is just another republican lie. When President Clinton left office, Social Security funds were there until the republicans started dipping into it and not putting it back. Go to the AARP website and you should find the truth about Social Security.

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I do not clearly understand your post here,..... prejudiced how? By the way, still hadn't read any republican issues yet. What are they for or against?

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The libs want the gubment to sieze pensions and 401K plans. Since the SS trust fund has been drained, they look for another funding to drain.

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The Social Security fund has NOT been drained, it has been picked pocketed by Bush and the republicans. Don't quite understand "gubment to sieze pensions and 401K plans".

By the way, if the Tea Party believes in everyone being responsible, then why don't the wealthiest 2% pay their part of the taxes? If someone making $50,000.00 is paying 25% in taxes, shouldn't the ones making 9 million pay 25% in taxes instead of 3%. Seems like the Tea Party folks only want the working middle class to be responsible for keeping the government running.

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OOPs. I gave you the benefit of the doubt. You asked what the Tea Party was and even inserted :"in all sincereity"
You know all about the tea party. You are NOT seeking to learn, You were pretending inquisitiveness and already had opinions ready to go.

The wealthiest file and pay taxes as required by law unless they want to work for Obama,. They get the tax cheat privilege.

Are you paying a good share of taxes? You enjoy the same services the wealthy do.
Class warfare says the wealthy never pay their share.

If we tax people because they have saved money, that means they can hire less workers and buy less capital equipment and build fewer homes that create construction jobs. Is that what you want?

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I guarantee you got that from a liberal web site. Bush never had access to the SS fund. I take it they didn't cover that in Money and banking class in your university?

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Oh, but of course :blah

Liberal, Leftist, Agenda, Obama, You're not as smart as me, I took 20 economics classes last year... you're really a hoot :thumbsup

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OOPs yourself, read the first page coadie of this thread. I went to a website that was posted. You need to read the post then make your judgments.

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Wrong again coadie, I do not go to liberal websites, that came from my head and my memory. Al Gore even talked about a Lock-box for Social Security, he knew that there would be hands dipping in the kitty.

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I was outrageously disinterested in studying history as a student. The Boston Tea party tossed the tea into the harbor in protest of the Crown calling for high taxes. The gubment owned the East India Tea company and the prices were a rip off.

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Ok, this is the end of this thread. I see no one can give anything that the republicans are for or against. The only thing that has been determined here is that the Tea Party is going to boot out all the so-called republicans (RINOs), and have it their way, and the only issues that the republicans are against is the issues that the democrats are for.

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Please. THE AARP is now just another sloppy lobby organization and is NOT where you go to get financial reports.

The AARP is in the propoganda business and makes a fortune selling mailing lists so sharks can sell to seniors.

They will endorse insurance companies and allow the use of their name for money.

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http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OACT/TRSUM/index.html

I hate to break the news to you. alGore was not a source of truth as it comes for gubment money reports.

I assume liberals don't know what actuaries are and what they do. I look for actuarial tables. Till 2008, they seem to have a bright picture. (The gubment chief economist is Rosie Scenario Phd:heeheehee)

This trust fund report is signed by 2 tax cheats. Geithner and Sebelious.

The reason we get rosie numbers is 2 fold. They don't include our current heavy duty unemployment figures and they sliced reimbusrsement to providers severely. This table doesn't reflect the new people Obamascare will add that will drain it at an accelarating rate.

Peter Orzag split. You have never heard who he was and why he left the CBO

The OMB is another source.

The 2010 shortfall is expected to be $29 billion,

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I realize you don't understand siezing the 401K plans. That is not within your education. I started a 401 K and employer contribution plan for my company in the early 90's. You learn so much more running a plan than what one learns for being a mere investor. It was over 200 pages of documents. I hired 2 companies to help run the plan. This gives me legal bulletins and changes in regulations in addition to pending legislations.

But now Washington is developing plans for your retirement savings. BusinessWeek reports that the Treasury and Labor departments are asking for public comment on "the conversion of 401(k) savings and ...turning them into annuities. This discussion period was 2 months ago.
Argentina took retirement plans in 2008.
Step 1 is to offer treasuries to the plans which we now do. Step 2 is to require plans to "invest in our children" in other words buy treasuries.

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Bingo. :thumbsup

I would like to see Seascapes open a thread on each political topic that he/she is truley interested in discussing. These general broad brush discussions never go anywhere. For the most part all thats posted is regurgitated talking points from so called "news" .

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Seagraves posts here?

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oops :heeheehee

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Seagraves? Seascapes? what the difference is?

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It figures that seascapes got her education from al gore, Lmbo, "the inventor of the internet" then he talks about global warming when his house and his jet burns more fuel to light and run it then anythng we could do.then she wonders why the rich dont pay there share when tim geithner of all people, doesnt pay at all ,what a joke!! The aarp is like the better business bureau ,they never bite the hand that feeds them.

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ah, dude. The Dems were the ones who were "dipping into Social Security funds" from the later half of the 1960s all the way up until Newt and the Repubs took over in 1994.

How old are you? Don't you remember President Reagan taking hits when he called for a "Social Security Lock Box" to keep the Dems out of those funds?

AARP is a part of the fundraising wing of the DNC. What do you expect them to say?

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So if we ask any Democrat they will say we don't need to raise taxes, SS is fine until 2037???

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Algore was confusing the issues in the 2000 race. The Republicans weren't "dipping into the kitty" - they were investing the Social Security surpluses at the time to protect them from inflation. Algore and the Dems want those surplus SS dollars to spend on their own pet programs - so THEY were the ones who were raiding the kitty.

And, they had been raiding ever since its inception. It was Reagan and the Republican who called for a Social Security Lockbox in the 1980's to keep the Dems out of those funds. Algore stole the term and turned it upside down.

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FYI, SS isn't a dude and she's dependant on the tax dollars of others for her income. I think that's why she's so anti-anything conservative.

And from what I've seen from her, she's not much interested in learning any facts that don't fit her world view.

But, I could be wrong, maybe she'll learn from the facts you're presenting. One can hope....hey, where'd I hear that before? :heeheehee

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SS seems to believe that all Republicans are evil and all Democrats are good.

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Giving her too many facts gets you put on "ignore". That's how the liberal mind works....vilify, put fingers in ears and go on believing government is the answer.

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Of course, Government is the answer to everything. Didn't you know that. That is what is laughable.

FEMA vs Red Cross.
SS vs Retirement Funds.
Etc, Etc, Etc,

The government always fails when it tries a social aspect. Let the private industry provide the social aspects. Government needs to stick to the things stated in the Constitution.

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:thumbsup

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"dude" is a non-gender specific appellative. http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ons/icon10.gif

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Oh?

I thought guys were dudes and girls were dudettes