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Uncle Joe 04-08-2011 07:52 AM

God's Approval of Unbelief (?)
 
This may sound like a silly question, but if swift judgment or frightening deathbeds don't happen to people who were indifferent or even hostile to my evangelism to them, does this mean God approves of them? I would think if God disapproved, one of these things would happen. This is getting me to think that my "unsaved (?)" family members may not be wrong after all.

By swift judgment, I mean sudden misfortune or death soon after rebuffing. Such as what I have heard happened to some who refused to go to the altar at revival or camp meeting.

By frightening deathbeds, I mean the person seeing demons "dragging their soul to Hell" or "seeing themself descend into flames" or "realizing they are lost" right before death. Similar to what is described by Maurice Rawlings and Solomon Benjiman Shaw.

I used to do street evangelism using a "Holiness or Hell" sign on the back of my bicycle, or holding a "Repent" sign on the sidewalk.

The anecdotal stories I heard and read about swift judgment or deathbed scenes don't happen in real life.

Timmy 04-08-2011 02:49 PM

Re: God's Approval of Unbelief (?)
 
:popcorn2

Uncle Joe 04-09-2011 07:55 AM

Re: God's Approval of Unbelief (?)
 
How is popcorn an answer ??

berkeley 04-09-2011 08:20 AM

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Yes, they do happen.

Uncle Joe 04-09-2011 08:22 AM

Re: God's Approval of Unbelief (?)
 
I haven't seen it among my unsaved relatives.

MawMaw 04-09-2011 09:47 AM

Re: God's Approval of Unbelief (?)
 
How can God approve of unbelief? That goes totally against His Word.

Each of us will be held accountable.

I don't think it's good to dwell on what does or does not happen to someone because of their own stubborn unbelief.

Every soul has to make their choice.

We still have to sow the seed and let God tend to the rest.

Timmy 04-09-2011 11:34 AM

Re: God's Approval of Unbelief (?)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Joe (Post 1056311)
How is popcorn an answer ??

It's not. Just something to do while I watch.

:popcorn2

berkeley 04-09-2011 11:42 AM

Re: God's Approval of Unbelief (?)
 
I do believe that this stuff is very uncommon.

Timmy 04-10-2011 07:46 PM

Re: God's Approval of Unbelief (?)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by berkeley (Post 1056354)
I do believe that this stuff is very uncommon.

About the same as random chance?

houston 04-10-2011 09:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1056804)
About the same as random chance?

No.

Timmy 04-11-2011 08:08 PM

Re: God's Approval of Unbelief (?)
 
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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1056824)
No.

Do terrible things mentioned in the OP happen more often or less often than random chance, after someone rejects an evangelistic message?

Jimmyjay 04-12-2011 05:01 AM

Re: God's Approval of Unbelief (?)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Joe (Post 1055938)
This may sound like a silly question, but if swift judgment or frightening deathbeds don't happen to people who were indifferent or even hostile to my evangelism to them, does this mean God approves of them? I would think if God disapproved, one of these things would happen. This is getting me to think that my "unsaved (?)" family members may not be wrong after all.

By swift judgment, I mean sudden misfortune or death soon after rebuffing. Such as what I have heard happened to some who refused to go to the altar at revival or camp meeting.

By frightening deathbeds, I mean the person seeing demons "dragging their soul to Hell" or "seeing themself descend into flames" or "realizing they are lost" right before death. Similar to what is described by Maurice Rawlings and Solomon Benjiman Shaw.

I used to do street evangelism using a "Holiness or Hell" sign on the back of my bicycle, or holding a "Repent" sign on the sidewalk.

The anecdotal stories I heard and read about swift judgment or deathbed scenes don't happen in real life.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Jimmyjay 04-12-2011 05:10 AM

Re: God's Approval of Unbelief (?)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Joe (Post 1055938)
This may sound like a silly question, but if swift judgment or frightening deathbeds don't happen to people who were indifferent or even hostile to my evangelism to them, does this mean God approves of them? I would think if God disapproved, one of these things would happen. This is getting me to think that my "unsaved (?)" family members may not be wrong after all.

By swift judgment, I mean sudden misfortune or death soon after rebuffing. Such as what I have heard happened to some who refused to go to the altar at revival or camp meeting.

By frightening deathbeds, I mean the person seeing demons "dragging their soul to Hell" or "seeing themself descend into flames" or "realizing they are lost" right before death. Similar to what is described by Maurice Rawlings and Solomon Benjiman Shaw.

I used to do street evangelism using a "Holiness or Hell" sign on the back of my bicycle, or holding a "Repent" sign on the sidewalk.

The anecdotal stories I heard and read about swift judgment or deathbed scenes don't happen in real life.

Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


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