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Dedicated Mind 04-12-2011 11:45 AM

Trump may run as Independent
 
Great news for dems. USA today is reporting that Trump may run as independent IF he doesn't win the republican nomination. Is the donald blackmailing conservatives? Things are heating up folks. Gobama!

coadie 04-12-2011 11:47 AM

Re: Trump may run as Independent
 
Lot of leftists would vote for him. He is not reallly much of a social conservative.

sandie 04-12-2011 11:48 AM

Re: Trump may run as Independent
 
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1057273)
Great news for dems. USA today is reporting that Trump may run as independent IF he doesn't win the republican nomination. Is the donald blackmailing conservatives? Things are heating up folks. Gobama!

You actually want someone who believes, supports and funds the greatest offense to the innocent in modern history; abortion?????

Dedicated Mind 04-12-2011 11:51 AM

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abortion is done by individual women not obama. I guess you support banning guns because guns kill?

MissBrattified 04-12-2011 11:52 AM

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*sigh*

Donald Trump is NOT a strong candidate. Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?

scotty 04-12-2011 11:57 AM

Re: Trump may run as Independent
 
Trump will loose no matter what ticket he runs on. He would be great for our economic problems, but he would be destructive to our forgein affairs.

sandie 04-12-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1057277)
abortion is done by individual women not obama. I guess you support banning guns because guns kill?

Well, Obama doesn't want his daughters, "punished with a baby"...that's close enough for me, not to mention his vicious defense of killing even the just born children.

You're actually going to try and compare the vile action of murdering defensless children, (yes, deliberate, calculated, cold blooded murder) with gun ownership????? *shakes head*

Dedicated Mind 04-12-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1057288)
Well, Obama doesn't want his daughters, "punished with a baby"...that's close enough for me, not to mention his vicious defense of killing even the just born children.

You're actually going to try and compare the vile action of murdering defensless children, (yes, deliberate, calculated, cold blooded murder) with gun ownership????? *shakes head*

I don't argue with extremists. If abortion was legally classified as murder, it wouldn't be legal.

sandie 04-12-2011 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1057297)
I don't argue with extremists. If abortion was legally classified as murder, it wouldn't be legal.

It's classified as murder with God.

Arguing with extremists, yes, I won't pursue this further with you any longer.

Dedicated Mind 04-12-2011 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1057302)
It's classified as murder with God.

Arguing with extremists, yes, I won't pursue this further with you any longer.

Are you God's representative on earth? When exactly did you talk to him? What exactly did he say to you? This is a democracy not a theocracy. We can outlaw abortion when Christ returns.

scotty 04-12-2011 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1057326)
Are you God's representative on earth? When exactly did you talk to him? What exactly did he say to you? This is a democracy not a theocracy. We can outlaw abortion when Christ returns.

What resource of God are you using to justify abortion ? The question can go both ways.

Knowing what scripture teaches us about Jesus Christ, can anyone honestly say that He would stand over a mother and approve the death of her unborn child because that child would simply be a burden on her ?

We are all God's representative on earth, if He truley lives within us. This little light of mine.......... ?

IvyWalker 04-12-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1057326)
Are you God's representative on earth? When exactly did you talk to him? What exactly did he say to you? This is a democracy not a theocracy. We can outlaw abortion when Christ returns.

There's no clear example of defending what is just and right than to voice disapproval to abortion. Of course, part of justice and stamping out oppression, would need to come an openness in the Church to care for those who have had abortions, counsel those who are contemplating, and work through this very fragile reality as best we can.

Dedicated Mind 04-12-2011 12:58 PM

Re: Trump may run as Independent
 
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Originally Posted by scotty (Post 1057333)
What resource of God are you using to justify abortion ? The question can go both ways.

Knowing what scripture teaches us about Jesus Christ, can anyone honestly say that He would stand over a mother and approve the death of her unborn child because that child would simply be a burden on her ?

We are all God's representative on earth, if He truley lives within us. This little light of mine.......... ?

the point I'm making is that God is not running the day to day affairs of mankind. I know the bible says that He appoints kings and rulers, but how do you explain china, Qadaffy and other dictators? If God appoints rulers, then he is resposible for abortion being the law of the land. How do you explain that? I personally don't support abortion but I support a woman's right to choose.

coadie 04-12-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1057365)
the point I'm making is that God is not running the day to day affairs of mankind. I know the bible says that He appoints kings and rulers, but how do you explain china, Qadaffy and other dictators? If God appoints rulers, then he is resposible for abortion being the law of the land. How do you explain that? I personally don't support abortion but I support a woman's right to choose.

you don't support the rights of unborn women.

scotty 04-12-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1057365)
I personally don't support abortion but I support a woman's right to choose.

lol, and the difference is ?

coadie 04-12-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty (Post 1057370)
lol, and the difference is ?

Pro choice is pro abortion.

In fact today, in the healtcare bill the word abortion has been scrubbed out. The vague expression is women's health. Womens health services are not defined in the laws. If I look for stats on abortion, i see Guttmacher institute. it is owned by Planned parenthood and also distorts and hides information.
Dr. Guttmacher was once the head of Planned parenthood. Planned parenthood is also Named in error. It is mostly abortion and contraceptives whcih prevent girls from being moms.

Dedicated Mind 04-12-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty (Post 1057370)
lol, and the difference is ?

the difference is if I had a woman pregnant I wouldn't choose to abort but if a woman makes that decision I wouldn't be agaist it.

coadie 04-12-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1057387)
the difference is if I had a woman pregnant I wouldn't choose to abort but if a woman makes that decision I wouldn't be agaist it.

But yiou contradict yourself. The baby isn't given a choice and that is fine with you.

sandie 04-12-2011 10:48 PM

Re: Trump may run as Independent
 
Abortion is murder. Period.

Thine eyes have seen my unformed substance; And in Thy book they were all written, The days that were ordained for me, When as yet there was not one of them. (Psalm 139:16)

"Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed, For in the image of God He made man." (Genesis 9:6)

aegsm76 04-13-2011 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1057387)
the difference is if I had a woman pregnant I wouldn't choose to abort but if a woman makes that decision I wouldn't be agaist it.

DM - you've got to be kidding.
What's the difference between murder at conception plus 12 weeks and conception plus 112 weeks?

Sam 04-15-2011 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by IvyWalker (Post 1057339)
There's no clear example of defending what is just and right than to voice disapproval to abortion. Of course, part of justice and stamping out oppression, would need to come an openness in the Church to care for those who have had abortions, counsel those who are contemplating, and work through this very fragile reality as best we can.

AMEN
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another alternative is to provide a home for a pregnant young lady where she can complete her education (maybe a G.E.D.) learn some work skills to prepare her for the job market, mentor her, help find good parents who will adopt the baby, or help here with the raising of that baby should she decide to keep the child.

It is my understanding that in the early centuries of the church, when newborn babies were cast out and left to die, that Christians took those babies in and reared them in a Christian environment.

Sam 04-15-2011 01:15 PM

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I received this in an email today.

Seascapes 04-15-2011 02:32 PM

Re: Trump may run as Independent
 
I see this thread started out as Trump may run as Independent How did this get on abortions? Oh, I see, sandie started posting.

coadie 04-15-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1058393)
I see this thread started out as Trump may run as Independent How did this get on abortions? Oh, I see, sandie started posting.

Trump is anti abortion

Obama who he will run against is the most pro abortion Pres evah.

Have you read the Democrat manifesto formerly called the democrat party platform?

coadie 04-15-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1057647)
DM - you've got to be kidding.
What's the difference between murder at conception plus 12 weeks and conception plus 112 weeks?

112 minus 12 is one hundred (100) weeks. I did the math in my head.

sandie 04-15-2011 05:02 PM

Re: Trump may run as Independent
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seascapes (Post 1058393)
I see this thread started out as Trump may run as Independent How did this get on abortions? Oh, I see, sandie started posting.

Discussion among those who claim the Name of Jesus and support of Obama = the topic including abortion.

You'll have to deal with it.


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