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sandie 04-18-2011 09:04 AM

Negative S&P ratings outlook for U.S.
 
By Steve Goldstein WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Standard & Poor's cut its ratings outlook on the U.S. to negative from stable while keeping its Triple-A rating on the world's largest economy. "More than two years after the beginning of the recent crisis, U.S. policymakers have still not agreed on how to reverse recent fiscal deterioration or address longer-term fiscal pressures," said Standard & Poor's credit analyst Nikola G. Swann. U.S. stock futures plunged on the news, with Dow industrial futures falling 167 points.

This won't even budge the left, wait and see. :foottap

coadie 04-18-2011 09:44 AM

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Blame Bush

sandie 04-18-2011 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1058833)
Blame Bush

They'll try.

Democrats know no shame.

coadie 04-18-2011 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1058835)
They'll try.

Democrats know no shame.

The slowest of the slow will even one day desire solutions. You don't go to a doc for 2 years to just hear blame and diagnosis. One day you want treatments. A cure, medicine. When Obama spoke a week ago, he criticized the Conservatives. He offered no solution. We observe no progress or solutions. Obama can't show one deed to cut the deficit.

sandie 04-18-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1058836)
The slowest of the slow will even one day desire solutions. You don't go to a doc for 2 years to just hear blame and diagnosis. One day you want treatments. A cure, medicine. When Obama spoke a week ago, he criticized the Conservatives. He offered no solution. We observe no progress or solutions. Obama can't show one deed to cut the deficit.

Hopefully this same patient hasn't waited too long.

My son's new business will suffer. He depends on loans for his customers, those just got harder.

I'm beginning to think most politicians are criminals on the loose.

sandie 04-18-2011 10:04 AM

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If you have the stomach, read this:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

coadie 04-18-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1058839)
Hopefully this same patient hasn't waited too long.

My son's new business will suffer. He depends on loans for his customers, those just got harder.

I'm beginning to think most politicians are criminals on the loose.

One of my businesses 30 years ago depended on loans when interest rates were 20%. Consumers found it difficult to borrow money. My company grew by reason of market share and pushing competitors out of business that were old and established. I suspect Conservitives will gain a lot more victories in 2 years. Will Obama get the message?

coadie 04-18-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1058843)
If you have the stomach, read this:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

3 years ago, many firms had no risk managers. The quants relied on some historical projections. CDO's CDS's and other novel products were optimistically rated. Obama needs to discover that the deficit is not only going up, but the interest rate on Gubment debt is rising soon. It will take hundreds of billions more just to pay the interest.

sandie 04-18-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1058858)
One of my businesses 30 years ago depended on loans when interest rates were 20%. Consumers found it difficult to borrow money. My company grew by reason of market share and pushing competitors out of business that were old and established. I suspect Conservitives will gain a lot more victories in 2 years. Will Obama get the message?

Obama is on a mission. This is the "change" he wanted.

The Saudi's are cutting back production.

Everything is different this go around, Coadie.

coadie 04-18-2011 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1058864)
Obama is on a mission. This is the "change" he wanted.

The Saudi's are cutting back production.

Everything is different this go around, Coadie.

I have been told the Arabs are funding some of our greenie ventures. If they can get drilling boycotts, mining boycotts, it strengthens Arab OPEC market share.

Who would guess environmentalists are gullible and being played by OPEC?

Sam 04-18-2011 02:42 PM

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Blame Bush

yeppers.....

just blame Bush.....

deacon blues 04-19-2011 06:01 AM

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The man that flew his plane into the IRS building in TX really wasted a great opportunity. He should've flown it into the Capital or the White House.

deacon blues 04-19-2011 06:23 AM

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NBC's Today show anchor Matt Lauer just asked Erin Burnett if Standard and Poor was "venturing into the political arena". The inference is they are trying to influence politics---favoring the Republicans. Give me a break. The willful ignorance on the part of liberals is really nauseating. Erin's response was "maybe a little" but went on to say that we needed a "third party" who could come in and help Dems and the GOP negotiate the deficit crisis. S & P's downgrade is based mainly upon the feeling that the politicians in DC will not come to an agreement before the 2012 elections. Hey Erin, remember the president's Deficit Commission? There's your third party. Oh but wait, they came to the conclusion that SPENDING IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM in the deficit issue. Liberals do not want to face reality.

sandie 04-19-2011 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1059126)
NBC's Today show anchor Matt Lauer just asked Erin Burnett if Standard and Poor was "venturing into the political arena". The inference is they are trying to influence politics---favoring the Republicans. Give me a break. The willful ignorance on the part of liberals is really nauseating. Erin's response was "maybe a little" but went on to say that we needed a "third party" who could come in and help Dems and the GOP negotiate the deficit crisis. S & P's downgrade is based mainly upon the feeling that the politicians in DC will not come to an agreement before the 2012 elections. Hey Erin, remember the president's Deficit Commission? There's your third party. Oh but wait, they came to the conclusion that SPENDING IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM in the deficit issue. Liberals do not want to face reality.

If the S&P downgrade didn't wake them up, nothing will. They are stuck on stupid.
I was talking to a lib last night and he says it's all about greed...not from the politicians mind you...but, all those big bad companies. He even thinks there should be more regulations on these companies....we're doomed with that kind of thinking.
That the government has run out of money doesn't seem to register either.


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