FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
 

Fox's Shep Smith:

"Is anyone talking about the fact that this is illegal-- this operation was illegal?"


Really?

Gimme a break!


How many conservatives see a problem with the assertion and line of thinking associated with FOX's assertion?

Not many, I bet.

I guess there are many who would agree to the fallacy that what President Obama did was illegal.




I guess there are some conservatives who would like to see our President brought up on war crime charges for the death of bin laden....




Absolutely maddening!

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It was illegal.

Had President Bush done the same, it would be the world's largest stink.

JD's circle still is attacking the CIA in court for waterboarding. Those cases have never been dropped.

The same leftist klowns that say warterboarding a terrorist for info can't find a law that says it is illegal. So why the criminal case whre there is no law?

This attack on a terrorist on another soveriegn countries land is against the law.

JD is prejudiced and it will keep dividing America.

How do you claim it is a fallacy without supporting your assertion?

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He was killed, by American military forces, in the conduct of war-- or do you not believe America's "Global War on Terror", "or America's war against Al Quaeda to not be valid?

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By the way, a Fox News correspondent confirmed that the intel used to locate bin laden was not gathered by waterboarding, since you were the one who mentioned it.

Her confirmation is in the video I posted.

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Since when is Nancy Pelosi a Fox correspondent?????? LOL, I heard her say that on Fox.

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When did we declare war with Pakistan?

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JD, the only reason you will hear that mentioned is because of how the media treated Bush over actions like this. We're all happy (as far as I know) to see a threat removed, (although simply removing OBL didn't erase the Real Threat), but at the same time, if Bush had taken on the same covert operation, the press would be frothing at the mouth to nail him for doing something illegal.

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Ah ,ah , ah, we cant call it global war on terror ,no such thing, Barwreck said so , he ordered them to not use that phrase anymore ,same as illegals , its just a little dissagreement .Coadie what was the phrase they are supposed to use now??

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\
Napalitano is gender confused but in terms of PC speech, it is caused by males.

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Its "Overseas Contingency Operation" now roflmbo,to everyone else except the non pc and OBL. He cant vouch for it being any better :)

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“Certainly it would be a violation of international law to shoot someone who is trying to surrender,” said John Bellinger III, who served as legal adviser to the National Security Council and the State Department during the George W. Bush administration.

“On the other hand, just because someone is unarmed doesn’t mean that they don’t pose a threat and that the use of force is inappropriate,” he said. “It’s essentially up to the judgment of the soldiers on the ground as to whether they feel they are facing an imminent threat and can use force.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...QsF_story.html

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Try to tell the love ones of 9/11 that it was illegal. And the love ones of the firemen that are still dying because of trying to help the people that day. It is NOT patriotic in saying it was illegal. People of our country that makes such a statement are not true Americans or they are racist. It was very heroic of our President and the Navy Seals.

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Congress writes laws. The Geneva Convention writes laws of war etc.
It is OK that you offer assertions and con't support them.

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JD, Bush insider Karl Rove yesterday said the the enhanced interrogations were less about getting solid intel as it was to break the will of the detainees. Once broken they would cooperate and be forthcoming with valuable intel. He said KSM, once broken through EI, would call for the interrogators to come and sit with him as he conducted almost seminar like sessions on Al Qaeda and its inner workings.

That was an eye opener for me. It made a lot more sense. The EI played a vital role to break the will of the detainees that led to their cooperation later.

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coadie, the Geneva Convention writes the laws of war, and if Congress did what they should have done, then Bush and Cheney would be in prison today. We all know the truth. They were afraid that if democrats went into office, then they would be in prison. Be thankful that our President didn't want to use the money on lawyers and court cost for the American people to have to pay with their taxes.

You have to admit coadie, that many people are against President Obama, simply because his skin color is darker. I know, because I have some stupid relatives that has made stupid racist remarks, and they are STUPID, but I still pray for them.

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I believe had Bush done this the liberals and media would be working this angle. That being said I don't believe the Geneva Convention applies to terrorists and I don't believe what our Navy SEALS did was illegal. We made it clear anyone getting in our way of brining these people to justice would suffer the consequences. Pakistan obviously knew something, they would've tipped OBL off had we communicated our intentions or sought permission. We did it exactly right.

Besides, we let Pakistan off the hook with terrorists by keeping them out of the loop on this. No one can blame Pakistani cooperation. I'm sure their leaders, even if publicly complaining, are breathing a huge sigh of relief. Who would want the burden of harboring OBL in their country?

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You are not honest enough to share the laws that Bush and Cheney broke?

Off the top of your head, can you give an example of Congress putting someone in Jail? Conductng a criminal trial?

You mention court costs. Did you know the gubment runs a judiciary that is outside of Congress?

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I don't have a problem with what happened. Sometimes the right thing to do is hard to do the "correct" way.

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Just for one, off the top, going to war on lies and killing over 100,000 of the innocent people of Iraq, and over 5,000 of our men and women. President Clinton was taken to court on really nothing that did not hurt anyone, only his moral values. The waterboarding was against the Geneva Convention, we all know the facts.

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Why don't you post these "facts"

Where does the Geneva Convention discuss waterboarding?
Do you deny the Democrats aurhtoiries the "war"? Abd keep voting to fiund the Iraq military actions?

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Obama is doing his publicity stunt at "Ground zero" today.

Only 50 families are invited. 50. It is a closed deal for his ego.

The other several thousands of families are NOT welcome.

Obama has no problem "picking" who is worthy of touching his robes.

So you must seem to think it is OK to tell the others he doesn't care. This is just "symbolic" and not really about grieving.

I notice you play the racist accusation card.

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Seascapes, while it cannot be denied that there are racists are among us, you also have to be willing to admit that there are times that the issue of race is overplayed to subterfuge that mistakes are made or policies are failing.

Were those who opposed Clarence Thomas' appointment to the Supreme Court racists? Did the color of his skin have anything to do with the effort to derail his appointment? Were those who battled with Michael Steele while he led the RNC on television, the editorialists, the pundits, the comedians and others, racists? Are those people who disliked Condalezza Rice during her service during the Bush years racists? If people speak out or oppose black Republicans or conservatives is because they are racists or could it be that most of them simply disagree and are diametrically opposed to their politics and policies?

Can conservatives be passionately opposed to this president purely out of political differences and policy issues? If we can show you a consistent opposition to Carter, Clinton, Kerry, Pelosi, Reid et al can our opposition to Obama be nothing more than another expression of our conservative values without being labeled racists?

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Shepherd Smith's opinion isn't necessarily "FOX'S assertion." It could well be that Mr. Smith simply has an opinion or viewpoint that is at variance with some of his colleagues. If you are correct about what Smith has said, then I guess this would be an example of just that.

And... Smith is hardly a "conservative." He's no ideologue at all, at least from what I've seen of him. He just does his bit and tries to tweak people's noses just for the sake of getting a reaction.

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Seascape, you are pathetic. I said I was not going to respond to any more of your trash but I am amazed! Every post it seems you stoop lower and lower! It seems you are the one always bringing up race! Get over it! You might try going and praying through.... or have you forgot what that means? You're hatred is overwhelming.


Joh 13:35* By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
Joh 15:8* Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

Man, the kind of fruit you are putting forth is certainly not the fruit of the spirit!

Sorry... God help me! I'm through with you again! I'm sure you don't care!

May God bless you and heal your spirit!

Been Thinkin

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Amen and Amen. :thumbsup

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Conservatives should be champions of the rule of law. If it was illegal, it was illegal. However, while what happened MIGHT have been illegal, I think justice was served.

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Killing Osama bin Laden in Pakistan was not illegal according to US laws nor according to the Geneva Conventions.

bin Laden has been making war without his troops wearing insignia nor uniforms. Under the recognized Laws of War, he should be either hanged or shot when he is found.

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I'm not familiar with all the international laws at this time. That's why I gave my opinion even if it MIGHT have been illegal.

Illegal or not, justice was served.

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Right there. It is my understanding if you capture a military person during war from and enemy, there are prisoner rules. You can't torture him and must release him after the war.

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Please correct yourself. It was SHEPPARD SMITH who made the statement not FOX NEWS.

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There is no question in my mind that only a democrat could get away with what Obama just did.

ANY republican would have been excoriated by the media and democrats for basically invading an ally not to mention shooting an unarmed man.

demands to see the tapes of the event would be called out in congress. Supenas to those involved and the media would be looking for an inside informant to hang the president.

Obama gets cover because republcans believe in justice and democrats have no souls.

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First of all, as far as we know, this is out of context. You did not provide the context OR a link.

Second this is not Fox. That is "Shep Smith" according to you.

Third, that is one person. One Person.

By and far all the conservatives I have heard are glad he is dead and not complaining about it being illegal

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BTW Shep asked IF anyone was talking about the action being illegal or not.

It doesn't matter what you agree on. Who are you? How is it that you know if it was illegal or not?

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We read the laws.

Just remember. Obama broke the law when he started bombing in Libya very recently also. It is his duty to go to Congress to get their consent. Bush of course did go to Congress to declare war.




Obama is a lawless character from Chicago.

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Well mr blow hard with all your knowledge and all your money why don't you bring a law suit against Obama. No you wouldn't do that you just have the Runs of the mouth.

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More lawlessness from bud light.

Civil laws are dealt with as civil torts or lawsuits. Criminal laws are not filed as law suits.

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Example

He was the FBI's "Most Wanted" terrorist for killing thousands of innocent Americans, but just days after U.S. Navy SEALs stormed Usama bin Laden's Pakistan compound and killed the Al Qaeda leader, a U.N. official wants to make sure the operation was carried out legally.

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The UN is nothing but a world wide welfare/orgainization that we are footing the bill for,while they thumb their nose at us,with every ruling they make.