Imperialism is the Cause of Terrorism!
 

The real cause of terrorism is not extremism. It is Imperialism. Please watch the short video and post your comments and solutions if you have any.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Fzm1hEiDQ

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Imperialism has been found in the histories of Japan, the Assyrian Empire, the Chinese Empire, the Roman Empire, Greece, the Persian Empire, and the Ottoman Empire, ancient Egypt, and India and was a basic component to the conquests of Genghis Khan and other warlords.

I am glad to say America is not forming an empire to sieze other nations and run them. We love them and leave them.

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coadie: We, the US have over 700 military bases in more than 160 countries. This is the definition of empire. We haven't left Japan, Korea, the Philippines, Diego Garcia or Hawaii and we ill be in Iraq and Afghanistan for the foreseeable future. The bases are not there foe us or to protect us. They are there to secure political power and natural resources for multi national corporations.


Daniel 7:7 "After that, in my vision at night I looked, and there before me was a fourth beast-- terrifying and frightening and very powerful. It had large iron teeth; it crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. It was different from all the former beasts, and it had ten horns. (NIV)

Watch the video again.

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Is there any possiblity you'd take your anti America posts where you won't offend?

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This country that we call the U.S.A. is based on genocide and ethnic cleansing. White Anglo Saxon Protestants believing in Manifest Destiny believed that God gave us this land and we had to kill off the heathen savages and send them to hell so we could take it over. Our history is filled with slaughter, deceit, broken treaties, genocide, treachery, shame.

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Looks like it is time to crack a history book. Under your locgic, since we have a military base in Gunatanamo, we must be ruling Cuba.

We couldn't get cigars, rum or labor out of Cuba. So much for your notions on Imperialism/. Russia called the shots in Cuba.

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The American Indians blew it with illegal immigrants. Now look what kind of mess runs the place. They should have sealed their borders.

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Imperialism? You mean like how Islam has spread through war all these years, taking countries and forcing language and religion on others and or forcing taxes on them?

Imperialism like how foreigners tried to take Afghanistan and turn it into an Islamic "paradise" where women are forced to wear carpets from head to toe, forced marriages, forbidden to be educated, beaten if they break any of the laws that were forced on them?

Or like how Islamists want to divide the Philippines to have their own nation and kidnap, murder and rape innocents to achieve that end?

Or how they invaded a Christian nation like Lebanon which welcomed them with open arms and who are converting it into an Islamic state?

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First of all those nations all allow us to be there and can at any time tell us to leave.

The reason many keep these bases is the economic boon it brings to them...how is that imperialsim

Why aren't the Japanese turning into Terrorists on us?

Why aren't the Koreans?

Filipinos?

Hawaiians?

Please tell us what natural resources we are stealing from Japan, Korea or the Philippines through our bases??

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Kind of like what God had the Israelites do thru the OT?
Sending people to hell and all...........

A one sided view is a lack of balance.

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There is much in our history that we can regret. However, there are certain facts that also must be taken into account. 1) The native Americans were as vicious and brutal as any of the white men. 2) White men reproduced at a more prolific rate than those who were already here. 3) The genocide tended to be instituted by the government, or by individuals on the ground in the military (Custer and Chivington among others) 4) When they went to war, they made no distinction between young, old, man, or woman. Neither did some of our military leaders. 5) More than ethnicities were being fought over, but rather two very different ways of living and existing. Only one could survive.

This of course does not excuse the ones involved, but their sin lies on their own head.

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Head? Is taking scalps worse than waterboarding?

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The genocides in the OT were ordered by G-d. To my knowledge G-d has ordered none since. When Christ sent out his disciples he sent them out not with conquering armies but with one set of clothes and no money in there pockets. And the church grew. Christians were a lot nicer when they had to rely on the hospitality of strangers for their next meal and place to sleep. Christians concern for others created curiosity about their message and the one they followed. Today churches look like campuses and Christians have their own political parties that command armies. Christians seem to be more loyal to their countries than their brethren who are suffering from the predatory capitalism that is ravaging the world. America isn't the The Kingdom of G-d and no matter who we elect or which laws we tweak it still won't be.

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wasn't scalp taking the result of some white men paying the Native Americans for scalps of their enemies.

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BUMP for MrJob

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You're projecting your own personal bias onto other people.

What is your point? And why do you ignore rebuttals and questions?
Does it make you feel superior to slam the country God has placed you in?
God won't bless what you curse and how is cursing this nation making you any better then the ones you degrade?
Hypocrite much?

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I have typed to replies but when I send them it says that I am no longer logged in and I lose everything. so hear goes again

My point is if Christians are carrying the flag or the sword for the countries of this world how can we carry the Gospel?

My second point is more of a question. Should Christians buy products from companies or invest in companies that are doing business unethically and hurting people (many of them Christians) around the world?

As for the military bases on foreign soil; Would Americans allow another country to Build a base in our country? If it were to happen would we resent it? I think we know the answers.

Here is a website the has timelines of US interventions in the affairs of other countries. This is important because 85% percent of Americans claim to be Christian so our actions abroad influence peoples idea of Christianity.

http://www.historycommons.org/topic.jsp?topic=regions

The time lines that deal with Iraq and Iran and central America are particularly revealing.

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America has her flaws, no doubt about it. But, this is still the best country God ever placed on this earth.
This country has freedom of worship, and if you don't think that means anything to God you are sadly mistaken as you seem to be on so many other issues.
From America, American Christians have blessed this entire world. American Christians are the first to give and the last to give up on others who hurt. American Christians have spred the gospel around this globe.

Mr.Job, you can pardon me or not, but you are the worst example of Christianity there is. Jesus said we would know them by their love one for another.
Read how the Holy Ghost spoke thru Paul to describe what love is and how and what we are to think upon.

I find your disdain for this country highly offensive. Surely there is another website you can find like minded jaded people. Especially since you don't directly answer rebuttals.

Praxeas has asked important questions that you ignore. You can keep trying to answer no matter your computer troubles, you can copy your replies as you go in case they disappear.

Either that, or you wouldn't break my heart if you found elsewhere to insult the country I happen to love. I appreciate that God placed me here where I had the wonderful opportunity to know Him.

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But our history has good in it as well.

Furthermore, I can't think of a more good-willed country than today's America (as defined by her words and actions.)

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Being objective with history, I have to disagree with statement number 1.

The treachery and utter cruelty of the early settlers led to violent responses from the Native Americans.


As for statement number 5, ethnicities were not as much the cause or reason for the cruelty of the early settlers towards the Native Americans as much as it was greed and the sense of entitlement that accompanied the "Manifest Destiny" school of thought.

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MrJob62, the YouTube clip is very interesting and makes a lot of sense to me, and I have to admit you are right about the way Christians are in America. I watched Joyce Meyers yesterday, and it was an abomination to me and made me sick, what is it doing to Jesus Christ. She looked like a man, and even spoke like a man. If I was a woman, I might have been attracted to her. I am checking out the website that you posted.

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If you can even think if you were a woman you might have been attracted to her, then you've got bigger problems then Joyce Meyer ever dreamt. If she's such an abomination then what were you doing watching her in the first place?

What about where Jesus says those who are for us are not against us?

Have you and MrJob no goodness in your thoughts or hearts? You must know the most wretched of people who claim to be Christians. I can name so many fine men and women who serve the Lord. You and MrJob need to get out more, pray more or just stop looking in the mirror so much and then projecting your own faults onto others.

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My solution to terrorism is simple.

I call it Parking Lot Deplomacy.

You identify some nation that supports terror... I suggest we start with Syria or Iran or Somalia or even Yemen.

you tell them they cannot do it any more.

you wait until they do it.

Then you invade. You distroy everything. you then go in with bull dozers and level the entire contry.

Then your pour cement over the whole landmass.

then you stripe it off like a giant parking lot.

then you go on TV and ask the following question:

Who is next.



oh, and the notion that the current terrorism being done in the war is a result of imperialism is just blather. very stupid blather by the "blame America for everything, first, middle and last" crowd.

they need to be kicked in the pants.

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FERD FOR PRESIDENT!

Or as someone I know said: if they want Israel's borders, let them come get them! Same kind of smart thinking.

mrjob is cute, don't ya think? :grumpy

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LOL. I suppose I should have a since of humor.... however when you are talking about subjects where innocent people die... like AMERICANS at the hands of TERRORISTS... I dont suffer foolish comments well...


I dont know Mrjob and we are dealing with comments not personalities so... we will focus on the lunacy stated not weither or not the stater is themself a loon... which we do not know, nor have any way of knowing....

hey, "some of my best friends are democrats!" LOL! No, really!

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I never said mrjob was a loon. And the reference to cute didn't seem to be as rude as the disparaging comments he makes towards Christians, America and it's policies.

Is mrjob a democrat? I don't think he has stated one way or the other.
But, I could be wrong, maybe he is.
I live in a family full of democrats and even they don't slam this country, just republicans...LOL!

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What you call "Imperialism" (which is perhaps the most often redefined word in the english language since the word "Christian") may be the reason terrorism happens to the west, but saying it is the cause of terrorism et al is like saying promiscuity is the reason STD bacteria exist. Those bacteria would still be around without promiscuity, they'd just be infecting someone/thing esle. And if there were no oil in the middle east, the inhabitants of that part of the world would still be killing each other like they have done for centuries.


I will not deny that the USA has done some things that we today (and would even then in many cases) consider unspeakably awful. However, I would respectfully ask 2 questions of you:

1. Can you name a modern country extant today that was not formed at least in part by some form of genocide, ethnic cleansing, or other like evils?

2. Do you think that the native American tribes that this country mistreated got where we found them without either displacing/anihilating another tribe or having themselves been displaced?