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Scott Hutchinson 05-22-2011 01:47 PM

Herman Cain.
 
This man has some interesting things to say.
http://www.hermancain.com/

canam 05-22-2011 06:07 PM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b9d_1306097416

Sam 05-22-2011 10:44 PM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
I may just vote for that guy.

RandyWayne 05-22-2011 10:47 PM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Make sure to "Like" him on Facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/THEHermanCain

canam 05-23-2011 04:26 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Too early yet, i want to know everything on him,his entire background ,no more obama episodes in this country.

stony ground 05-23-2011 04:32 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
What I've seen & heard from Mr. Cain so far I like. Too early to tell if he'll even be a serious contender, but the idea of a non-politician in the White House sounds great right about now.

Scott Hutchinson 05-23-2011 07:39 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
I'm certainly giving Mr.Cain fair consideration.

Pressing-On 05-23-2011 09:16 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
I'm afraid his interview with Chris Wallace, Sunday morning, is going to hurt him on the foreign affairs end.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...eace_deal.html

He did clarify his remarks on "right to return":

Quote:

(Stockbridge, GA)- In an interview this morning on FOX News Sunday with Christopher Wallace, Herman Cain addressed the issue of "right of return" for the country of Israel. In clarification of these remarks, Mr. Cain released the following statement:

I have long been a vocal and unwavering supporter of our friend and ally, Israel.

All Israeli governments have rejected the "right" of large numbers of Arabs or Palestinians to return to what is now the state of Israel. Such an en masse return would unbalance Israel's demographic makeup as the world's sole Jewish state.

In this light, should the "right of return" "be negotiated," as I said, "if that is a decision that Israel wants to make"? Certainly, and to reiterate, it's Israel's call. Israel has a long record of being more gracious to its enemies than its enemies are to it, and this would be yet another example of that. But is the "right of return" a moral imperative? Is it something Israel must grant? Is it something the United States ought to encourage?

The answer is no on every count.

Our policy on Palestinian affairs must be wholly a function of our policy on Israeli affairs. Israel is a friend. Israel is an ally. Israel shares common values with us. Israel shares common interests with us, especially in the eradication of terrorism and the need for bringing peace to the region. As President, I will never lose sight of these basic facts. Any aspirant to the Presidency must have the unshakable US-Israeli alliance at the core of his or her strategic vision in the Middle East.

As your President, I would.

http://secure.campaigner.com/Campaig...e--7yBR-eH60S8

MawMaw 05-23-2011 09:20 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
He will certainly be one I will consider.

Pressing-On 05-23-2011 09:24 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by canam (Post 1068415)
Too early yet, i want to know everything on him,his entire background ,no more obama episodes in this country.

He's going to be slammed for being Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank in the early 90's.

He has defended himself saying that we need an alternative plan if someone, like Ron Paul, is wanting to abolish it. He asks, "What will we replace it with?" He has also stated that they have enough internal regulation that we don't need to do an audit.

canam 05-23-2011 10:59 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1068451)
I'm afraid his interview with Chris Wallace, Sunday morning, is going to hurt him on the foreign affairs end.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...eace_deal.html

He did clarify his remarks on "right to return":

I saw that interview and i thought he was very clear and correct ! NO ones call but Israel's

Pressing-On 05-23-2011 12:20 PM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by canam (Post 1068489)
I saw that interview and i thought he was very clear and correct ! NO ones call but Israel's

He shouldn't have said, "Right to return? Right to return?" Chris had to explain that to him. It just didn't look good.

But, this is what will be interesting. Let's see if the MSM pushes him as hard as they did Palin.

Another interesting thing, I was running some errands and thought I'd see what Rush was saying about it today. Didn't hear him mention it and only glowing reports on the highlights of the interview. He totally pushed against McCain, but he is greatly in favor of Cain.

Now, don't think that I am against Cain. I would certainly support him and do support him. I listened to his speech when he was in Atlanta Saturday.

He said, "You want a leader, not a reader". :toofunny Excellent! :thumbsup

He certainly does not need notes. His support is growing. And I do like that. He would make a great VP if he can't get the top spot.

GISG 05-23-2011 12:28 PM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1068509)
He shouldn't have said, "Right to return? Right to return?" Chris had to explain that to him. It just didn't look good.

But, this is what will be interesting. Let's see if the MSM pushes him as hard as they did Palin.

Another interesting thing, I was running some errands and thought I'd see what Rush was saying about it today. Didn't hear him mention it and only glowing reports on the highlights of the interview. He totally pushed against McCain, but he is greatly in favor of Cain.

Now, don't think that I am against Cain. I would certainly support him and do support him. I listened to his speech when he was in Atlanta Saturday.

He said, "You want a leader, not a reader". :toofunny Excellent! :thumbsup

He certainly does not need notes. His support is growing. And I do like that. He would make a great VP if he can't get the top spot.

Loved that he spoke competley without any teleprompter or notes. Spoke from his heart and didn't do any pandering.

If the MSM ever takes him serious, they'll go on an all out attack. BO's Chicago thug machine will tare this man to shreds. It's going to make what they did to Palin look like a Sunday school picnic.
I don't care if he doesn't know anything about the right to return, who can keep all that straight in the first place? His experience is no less in that dept. then BO's was or is.
I liked that Cain said if you mess with Israel you mess with the United States of America. That's good enough for me.

Pressing-On 05-23-2011 12:35 PM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GISG (Post 1068513)
Loved that he spoke competley without any teleprompter or notes. Spoke from his heart and didn't do any pandering.

If the MSM ever takes him serious, they'll go on an all out attack. BO's Chicago thug machine will tare this man to shreds. It's going to make what they did to Palin look like a Sunday school picnic.
I don't care if he doesn't know anything about the right to return, who can keep all that straight in the first place? His experience is no less in that dept. then BO's was or is.
I liked that Cain said if you mess with Israel you mess with the United States of America. That's good enough for me.

I'm not sure they would be able to handle Cain the same way they did Palin. He's coming across as totally likeable, sensible and down to earth. That's going to be hard to fight against.

The only other person that could top him would be Chris Christie. He pushes back with credibility. That fat boy can bring it! :toofunny

GISG 05-23-2011 05:23 PM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1068517)
I'm not sure they would be able to handle Cain the same way they did Palin. He's coming across as totally likeable, sensible and down to earth. That's going to be hard to fight against.

The only other person that could top him would be Chris Christie. He pushes back with credibility. That fat boy can bring it! :toofunny

BO and his Chicago thug machine will rip Cain to shreds if they ever think for a second he's got a chance. They might not be able to get away with the exact lengths as they did with Palin...but, they'll try and won't lose a wink of sleep over it. They won't take any chances. Dirty politics will gain new heights with those men. Chrstie isn't even running, but just the thought he might be a real challenge is getting him this:


Quote:

By JOSH MARGOLIN

Last Updated: 5:40 AM, May 23, 2011

President Obama's re-election campaign is trying to dig up dirt in the Garden State.

Despite New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's repeated pronouncements that he will not seek the GOP presidential nomination, Obama operatives are compiling a dossier of what they call "opposition research" -- material that could be used to damage Christie if he changes his mind, The Post has learned.

The Obama campaign is trying to keep its efforts from public view, concerned they would only elevate Christie's already impressive standing within the Republican Party, sources said.


AP
'He is not running, and he is not cracking the door open even a little bit.' — Gov. Chris Christie’s spokesman Mike DuHaime
The operatives have chosen not to dispatch their own people to New Jersey, but instead are talking to people there and in New York who know Christie from his time in the governor's office, as a gubernatorial candidate and as US attorney.

Obama's campaign manager, Jim Messina, did not respond to messages.

Christie has repeatedly -- and colorfully --said he is not running for president in 2012.



http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...#ixzz1NDglgpkI

Sam 05-24-2011 12:26 PM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
The right to return?
Over 60 years ago the Arabs scared some folks into fleeing that area because they (the Arabs) threatened to come in and level the place, killing all. The Israeli government pleaded with them to stay but they left, expecting to gleefully watch the destruction of Israel from the sidelines. They left. They're gone. They've been gone for over half a century. What right do they have to come back?

Pressing-On 05-25-2011 04:04 PM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Gallup Study Shows Cain With Highest Positive Intensity Score -- Voters Like His Honesty
05/25/2011

According to Gallup, businessman Herman Cain “has the highest Positive Intensity Score among Republicans of any potential GOP candidate still in the race” and his “intensity Score of 27 matches the highest yet recorded for any candidate or potential candidate this year.”

Cain admitted that “I now know what that is” and said, referring to himself in the third person, that “the thing that you’re going to learn about Herman Cain, if he doesn’t know something, he’s not going to try and fake it or give an answer that he doesn’t know what hes talking about.”

Cain then gave one of the savviest answers of this election cycle, ....

The answer was savvy and showed Cain’s potential learning curve because it was a direct rebuke to Wallace’s insinuation in his initial question that the Jews had kicked out the Palestinians. By implication, it showed that even a well polished Sunday talk show host often does not have all the right facts or answers.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=43729
:thumbsup :thumbsup

Pressing-On 05-28-2011 08:57 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Cain clearing up some questions on his working for the Federal Reserve and his stand on auditing the Fed, first supporting TARP, his comment about not hiring Muslims in his cabinet. Good interview.

http://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-b...s-herman-cain/

sandie 05-28-2011 05:07 PM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1069900)
Cain clearing up some questions on his working for the Federal Reserve and his stand on auditing the Fed, first supporting TARP, his comment about not hiring Muslims in his cabinet. Good interview.

http://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-b...s-herman-cain/

:thumbsup

The more I listen to him, the better I like the idea of him being president.

MarcBee 05-30-2011 07:16 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1068386)
I may just vote for that guy.

I hope he gets far enough that I have a chance to do so. Would be nice to take away Obummer's erstwhile "racial sympathy" vote. My slogan for Cain:

"Even MORE HISTORIC."

Sam 05-30-2011 08:06 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarcBee (Post 1070311)
I hope he gets far enough that I have a chance to do so. Would be nice to take away Obummer's erstwhile "racial sympathy" vote. My slogan for Cain:

"Even MORE HISTORIC."


As far as the "racial sympathy" thing, in my opinion, it is as much racist to vote for a person because he is African American as it is to vote against a person because he is African American.

MarcBee 05-30-2011 08:39 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1070343)
As far as the "racial sympathy" thing, in my opinion, it is as much racist to vote for a person because he is African American as it is to vote against a person because he is African American.

Yes, nevertheless it's a political reality that had and still has big consequences.

Jermyn Davidson 05-30-2011 08:55 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
The GOP DOES NOT need another black face.

When the GOP trumpets a black conservative because he is black, it's akin to the white guy who attempts to prove he's not racist by pointing out his one or two black friends.

A black face for the GOP is simply a salve to soothe the conscience of good-hearted GOP'ers who don't knoiw how to confront the fact that the expresion of their values (in policy and law) puts them at odds far too often with other minorities and the poor in America unnecessarily.





Putting a black face on the GOP does very little to change the perception of our stance being anti poor and/or anti minority.


The GOP doesn't need another black face. I criticized Steele's "election" to his position using this same argument-- but no one on AFF agreed with me and only ONE of my more-conservatve-than-me friends agreed with me.



We need common sense Conservatives who are compassionate-- who can express and carry out conservative policies that do not insult or disregard America's minorities and poor.

Until the GOP succeeds in doing this, Cain and others like him will be seen as the GOP's black alternative to Obama-- which isn't fair to Cain, Obama, or the GOP.

Jermyn Davidson 05-30-2011 09:05 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
I'll go one step further and say this.

I want the GOP to put a conservative, christian, white candidate forward, whose candidacy is untaintanble with valid anti minority and/or anti poor perception issues.


Governor Barbour was that guy.
Governor Christie would be that guy if he is a Christian.

There are other GOP'ers out there, I know-- but these are the two that come to mind.

MarcBee 05-30-2011 09:22 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1070360)
I'll go one step further and say this.

I want the GOP to put a...christian, white candidate forward, whose candidacy is untaintanble with valid anti minority and/or anti poor perception issues.
.

Ah, so your candidate needs to be _white_ but let's not be racist, eh? I merely resonate with Cain's rhetoric, apart from heritage. But if race reality can be made to work in his favor, then great, it's sensible to exploit whatever political capital may be available (*may* be, but who knows in this case...obviously black heritage would be bigger disadvantage if not for Obummer..)

Jermyn Davidson 05-30-2011 09:35 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarcBee (Post 1070366)
Ah, so your candidate needs to be _white_ but let's not be racist, eh? I merely resonate with Cain's rhetoric, apart from heritage. But if race reality can be made to work in his favor, then great, it's sensible to exploit whatever political capital may be available (*may* be, but who knows in this case...obviously black heritage would be bigger disadvantage if not for Obummer..)

You said, "... obviously black heritage would be bigger disadvantage if not for Obummer."


The implication here is astounding, which is part of the root problem that the GOP has on a national level (an often on a local level too) when it comes to matters where race (or economics which in America goes hand-in-hand with race historically) is involved.



Thanks for your honesty.

In no ways I am trying to paint you as racist-- most GOP'ers aren't.

Still, your statement speaks voluimes as to why the perception the GOP has as being anti minority and anti poor is so hard to shake.

Sam 05-30-2011 10:24 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1070358)
...Until the GOP succeeds in doing this, Cain and others like him will be seen as the GOP's black alternative to Obama-- which isn't fair to Cain, Obama, or the GOP.


I think you are right.

How long has it been since Affirmative Action was instituted?
Yet, whenever some of us see an African American in a good position or situation there is a question in the back of our minds if he/she earned that or is there only because of skin color.

Jermyn Davidson 05-30-2011 11:26 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1070387)
I think you are right.

How long has it been since Affirmative Action was instituted?
Yet, whenever some of us see an African American in a good position or situation there is a question in the back of our minds if he/she earned that or is there only because of skin color.

This is a sad reality.

Pressing-On 06-01-2011 04:27 PM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Somebody is working for him. Great video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOFB-...ature=youtu.be

GISG 06-01-2011 07:25 PM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1070933)
Somebody is working for him. Great video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOFB-...ature=youtu.be

:thumbsup

If Congressman Allen West doesn't run, I'm inclined to vote for Herman Cain.

Pressing-On 06-01-2011 08:44 PM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GISG (Post 1070958)
:thumbsup

If Congressman Allen West doesn't run, I'm inclined to vote for Herman Cain.

I doubt Allen will run. I'd like him to be appointed Secretary of State though. :thumbsup

GISG 06-02-2011 10:21 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1070978)
I doubt Allen will run. I'd like him to be appointed Secretary of State though. :thumbsup

I'd like to see him in any position of power...Sec. of State, that's good. Sec. of Defense would be good too.

I've been reading everything I can get my hands on about this man. Very, impressive and seems to be fearless....that's very refreshing.

Pressing-On 06-02-2011 10:51 AM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GISG (Post 1071115)
I'd like to see him in any position of power...Sec. of State, that's good. Sec. of Defense would be good too.

I've been reading everything I can get my hands on about this man. Very, impressive and seems to be fearless....that's very refreshing.

I do really like Allen West. He certainly is not afraid to address the Islamic issue. :thumbsup

Back to Cain - I heard Krauthammer, who originally stated that Cain's run is more on lines of entertainment, say that he would prefer someone like Cain that is honest and humble about what he does not know and will find an expert to educate him than someone like Obama who is arrogant about what he does not know even after consulting with experts. Good words! :thumbsup

GISG 06-02-2011 12:11 PM

Re: Herman Cain.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1071125)
I do really like Allen West. He certainly is not afraid to address the Islamic issue. :thumbsup

Back to Cain - I heard Krauthammer, who originally stated that Cain's run is more on lines of entertainment, say that he would prefer someone like Cain that is honest and humble about what he does not know and will find an expert to educate him than someone like Obama who is arrogant about what he does not know even after consulting with experts. Good words! :thumbsup

Good words, indeed! Imagine that, someone in politics trying to be honest! :)


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