News Flash! Harold Egbert Camping Resets Date!
 

More later, but here's some quotes from Family Radio broadcasting an apparent press conference.


Doomsday is now Oct 21, which was a prominent date in the teaching of Egbert even before the 5/21/2011 disappointment. But now

"we understand better."

"We've always said Oct 21 was the day of final destruction" (the end of the ongoing torment kicked off by the rolliing earthquakes )

"It's amazing what God has shown us" now.

"I am not the authority. The Bible is the authority."

"The structure of God's timeline has not changed at all."

"We have not made a mistake regarding the timeline." The May 21 judgment day was spiritual. But the Oct 21 judgment day will be physical.

(Therfore) No one can become saved from May 21 to Oct 21. Family Radio will henceforth only minister to the saved!

More later, I'll still writing quotes, heehee, hoohoo.

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Incredible. I wonder how many of his people are actually swallowing this.

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I knew he'd say something like that. All those kinds of guys do and the followers who want to save face buy in.

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What was suppose to happen to false prophets in the OT?

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:banghead

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Me too. Right now I'm just hoping Egbert lives until Oct 21. (He's 89 now.)

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You should call in to "Open Forum" and ask that. 1-800-something.

He will say, "But I never claimed to be a prophet."

(Trust me, I really understand this guy's psychology. But I still would like to see someone ask him that for the record.)

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No one can become saved from May 21 to Oct 21? *blink*

If the point is for people to be saved why would God leave them on earth with no possibility of being saved?

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Because that's God's plan! When Noah and family entered the ark, could anyone else be saved? *wink*

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On second thought, no, don't trust me. If anyone is sure God wants him or her to believe Egbert, then please do so. I'm sure John the Baptist was the apparent nut case for his day, yet JTB had the correct message. (Me, no believe Egbert...but ever fascinated at his ability in "assymetrical influence".)

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More quotes or my paraphrasing.

It was a press conference--press seemed interested to press questions about the financial aspects, such as, What about those who gave everything, what is your responsibility to them?

"We're not in the business to give any financial advice, we are in the business of telling people the gospel..." "Why is it always money, money, money?..."

Believers gave because they wanted to spread the message, we did not direct them to do so, but were careful stewards...(paraphrase)

HC also described how the organization has been very transparent about finances going back many years, and how they have enlisted extra CPAs to make financial information much more transparent than required by law.

Apology? And what about all those folks, etc.

"If people want me to apologize, yes I can apologize. I didn't have it worked out as accurately as I should have. Yes, I was wrong, I should have understood it as spiritual, not physical. But yes, May 21 was judgment."

"All we're doing is teaching the Bible, and the Bible has spiritual rule, not me."

"I don't have spiritual rule over anybody except my wife....just a little bit. (chuckle, chuckle.)"

"I can't have responsibility for anyone's life..."

"I've never told anybody I'm infallible, but God and His proofs are infallible."
I've never heard a pastor say, 'I was mistaken in what I taught you last year'...But I say again and again, 'I used to teach this, but now it's wrong' "

"I thank God for the media...spread our message. The world really knows we are there."

"We had two sources of income--listener's contibutions, and investments."

Question, Return the money?

"No, we are still in business until October 21 to spend it as wisely as possible."

Question, Will you dissolve Family Radio on Oct 21 ?

"If it's the end of the world, God will have dissolved it."

(HC never before has used the word "if" in the context of his predictions. This will CERTAINLY be corrected later as a hasty or misspoken word. M/B)

Thanking the press:

"You haven't asked me any embarrassing questions at all. I hope you can honestly report this, and I will be very, very happy. Goodnight."

Marcbee

5/21/2011....The Mark of The Fleeced.

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I was actually feeling a little sorry for him post-5/21...not so much anymore...

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The more pertinent question (and the reporter probably made the mistake of thinking it was clearly implied!) would be "If the world doesn't end on Oct 21, will you dissolve Family Radio?"

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Does the above attitude indicate too much pride, or not enough "pride?"

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Seems very proud of his humility. :lol

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So, he's switched from pre-trib (May 21) to post-trib (October 21)

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Forthcoming statement from Harold Camping, October 22, 2011:

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Someone tell that poor dude about carrying his cross and the need to humble himself and deny himself and admit error and that he has no ministry in this sort of thing.

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Okay this guy is just getting beyond ridiculous. I mean, come on.

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Ridiculous relative to what?
Noah? John The Baptist? NA Urshan having a stroll in the desert with a demonic being whose shadow provides NA with air conditioning? How 'bout what an average conventional pastor preaches about the rapture?

Actually I agree with you Erika. Just saying that apparent Nuttiness Quotient is not the measure for what is truth. Try explaining a radio to Charlemagne in 814 A.D. Of course, track record is a different issue. But even science has to progress through many iterations of "belief."

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I'm going to him and ask if he will write me a check for ten thousand dollars and post date it the day before this final end.

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Excellent. But specify "the day AFTER", in order to be an easier slam-dunk decision for Egbert.

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:blink

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I'm sorry, not NA Urshan, but whomever Jonathan Urshan's father was (if I have it correct now.) See message #61 of the thread "End Time Things That Never Happened" , sermon "man of sin" linked by mfblume. So sorry, NOT NA Urshan. I was dozing off....

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...t=33803&page=7

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Still, :blink. And thanks, I'll check the link. ;)

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Checked the link..........:bedtime So, he spent some time in the desert in the shade of a demon, basically? Good enough. :lol

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Who was the father of Jonathan Urshan?

I get the Andrews, Benjamins, Jonathans, and some of the others mixed up.
We have Joel Urshan here in the Cincinnati area pastoring a UPC church and he's related to them some way or another.