Bishop Eddie Long Settles Out Of Court
 

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/0...with-accusers/


This was definitely expected. Opinions.:heeheehee

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I thought he stood by his pulpit saying he was going to fight this, something about having so many rocks left or something.

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The dollar rock is always the best rock !

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Isn't that the truth!

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Not surprised.

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I watched his "sermon" live on the internet the week after the first boys came out with allegations before I went to church because I was interested.:heeheehee I'm glad my church has late services, HA!

Anyway, generally it was the "smart" move for a guilty man. It will go away, people will still give him their money. If they lined up to give it before they'll line up again.

It can be rest assured no matter what Eddie Long does, there will still be opportunities for him to exploit people and their money. He does pride himself on being a "business man", a business man indeed and a good business man knows it's always BEST to settle out of court (one of the most handy lessons I learned being a part of Future Business Leaders of America in High School).

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I not sure whether he has a secret life in regard to what recently surfaced.Or if it was one of those things where the flesh got into the way. If a man of God falls into temptation with another woman it is regarded as not good, but in this case now Eddie is corrupt in everything according to the judgement of some people.It is actually sad because now the non-believers who trusted what he was saying are thinking, just another phony preacher.

I personally believe he started out in the right frame of mind and his intentions were good. I have watched him for a long time and have seen the changes in his TV ministry and then at one point it became so obvious that I stopped watching.
It is similar to going back to the Jim Baker thing. I remember Jim Baker and his first TV appearance. He was very sincere and humble. As the years progressed and money came into play then he started to show signs of change.
This is what the apostles warned us about when it comes to money. They said many become defiled through the deceitfulness of richness.

And another lesson in this which I learned a long time ago.
People who get their eyes off of Jesus and the true apostolic message as once delivered by the apostles. Then begin to follow men's doctrines and fine speech. It isn't long until they become prey to convincing doctrines of new revelations and mysteries in the bible. Then down the road to destruction they go singing all the way.

Believers need to follow the voice of the Holy Ghost and forget about what men are doing. My shepherd I shall follow and none other shall I hear.

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Has anyone considered that the man settled to try to clear this out of the way so he could focus on his ministry? That maybe he got sick and tired of the mess, and the sleazy attorneys, and just wanted these allegations out of the way so he could go on living his life? I am not making excuses for the man, I think his doctrine is abominable as a prosperity pimp... I mean preacher, but I also think that we become too cynical over such matters and maybe need to exercise some grace and mercy, even when dealing with false prophets.

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Paying for indulgences is not a new doctrine.

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Your position is very contradictory, Bill.

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It is the exceptional man that can handle such power with integrity!!! With a man that does not make himself truly accountable to counsel it is virtually impossible.

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Because of the nature of what he has been accused of, his position, and how all of it came to light, would public confession (Swaggart style) be necessary BEFORE the extension of grace and mercy?



I do not have any rocks to throw.


Still, I was deeply disturbed by the fact that he decided to settle out of court.

This pretty much solidifies my opinion that he in fact is guilty of what he has been accused. Initially, I was outraged, but now I'm kinda sad over his decision.


It's hard to earn the notion that one is a man of integrity. So if you are that man, you would fight tooth and nail to defend your integrity-- especially in the face of such accusations.

However, he did not fight it.

He said he would, but he didn't.

He appeared strong, but he isn't.


I hope he is getting the help he needs in order to deal with his issues because there is just too much at stake for him and the people following him as he follows Christ.

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I don't know if Bishop Eddie Long is guilty of the "down low" stuff he was accused of or not. If he is, he's certainly not the first preacher to be guilty of sexual indiscretion. Look at Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker and others. God's grace is a marvelous thing. God was able to use David, a womanizer, liar, murderer and extortionist, to give us a large part of the Bible. David was human like all the rest of us but he was a man after God's own heart.

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Do you know if it was said he was a man after Gods heart after or before the incident?

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Being in law enforcement I know one of the reasons which he considered. If he would had to fight this issue in the courts, then he would have went through numerous depositions outside of the court room. He could have went through as many as one or ten. In those private depositions the defense attorney can ask any questions he wants to ask. The defendant has to answer them he cannot use the fifth amendment as his escape.

If the defense attorney wanted to ask Eddie about his childhood, his teen years, his personal relationship with other women before he was married he would had to answer them. If he was asked about his personal life and physical habits no matter what they were he would had to answer them truthfully or he would had to lie about things.All of this would have come out in court to disprove his creditability then later the public would have has access to everything which he said during the depositions.
So I think if he were not guilty of this incident, then all the others things in his life, just like ours, would have been exposed.

Things which the Lord has forgiven him of would be food for the public gossip section of this world.The media would have pasted it all over TV world wide. And of course the devil would have had a field day until Eddie would never have ever gained the confidence of his congregation.

So there could be a lot of reasoning behind decision making when your in that position.
I guess we will never know and probably shouldn't know.
A verse in Romans says. When you see a brother sin which is not a sin unto death, then you which are spiritual restore such a one, considering yourself lest you also be tempted.

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Are you saying, not only would these confessions be required at deposition, but they would summarily become public knowledge?

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When you are part of a deposition those facts discussed within the deposition can be used in a court of law. The court is open to the public unless the judge deemed it is not. Also things have a strange way of getting out of the private sector's responsibility and in the hands of the media.
If Eddie had a private time in his life when he was indulging in sinfulness if there is anything within the parameters of that life style which might reflect to those allegations it would be admissible in the hearing.

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It was said before the incident. David was a young man shepherding his father's sheep when YHWH told Samuel that David was a man after His own heart. I did not mean to imply that David was a man after God's own heart because of his evil deed but that even though he had a heart for God he still messed up.

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You know right off hand where at in bible?

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Bishop Long has over 10 attorneys on retainer at all times. The insurance companies that cover him have all their attorneys too.
This is not a decision that Bishop Long has made alone. There have been MANY attorneys that have advised him on the moves to make.
I can assure you that if I were advised by my attorneys to settle - I would be happy to do it. These are some wicked people he has been dealing with.

I think it is a shame and a disgrace for anyone to come on here and sling mud and say what you would do. Number 1 - You have never pastored 30,000 people and don't have a world wide ministry that reaches millions every week - if not every day.
It is small minded midget mentality people that would say he is guilty and you have no clue at all what it is even all about.
We live in Metro Atlanta and this witch of an attorney for these boys - solicited them after she found that they broke into his offices and stole his phones and other pieces of equipment from his offices. She is known for bringing false accusations against ministers.
This all started after Bishop Long and Bernice King led a march in Atlanta that opposed same sex marriage.
I am glad for Bishop Long and New Birth and celebrate with him this great victory!

Another thing - I know personally the men - Pastors/Bishops and advisers that Bishop Long has and sat at the table with some of them this week. Everyone single one told me he as been advised by EVERY attorney, adviser, Pastor/Bishop, Insurance Companies and THE JUDGE - to settle and get it over with! He does have great spiritual fathers in his life that counsel and advise him.

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1 Samuel 13:14
and referenced in Acts 13:22

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Oh please. I couldn't even read your whole post, its the same ole same ole.

This just makes "it all go away", for some hush money. Keep your head in the sand.

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yep

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:blah
now this is funny


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In light of your post and in light of the fact that I know that I am still weak at times in my own flesh, I repent of coming to a place of judgment in my own mind against the man of God.

I am so glad we serve a God who is not in the business of publicly humiliating his people if or when they fall.

Public humiliation is NOT a prerequisite for mercy.

I have over a thousand reasons to be glad for this and I suspect most others do too.

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Wow, I have never underestimated the power of the media to destroy.

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Thanks AB for bringing some sanity to this thread. While I disagree with his theology, Bishop Long has not been proven to be guilty. I kind of felt that he settled to get this behind him, and I think the advice was good advice. It is people who have never sat in the seat of authority on that level which seems to be the ones casting hige stones they cannot even carry themselves.

I think too many Christian lack grace and mercy. They lack compassion when something like this comes up. They kick Christ off the judgment seat and they become judge, jury, and sometimes try to be executioner as well. I am not defending Bishop Long, but I am not going to crucify him either, for none, not a single person on this forum has been intimately involved in this situation.

Whether Oneness or Trinity, we seem to be the only army that kills it's own wounded. We claim to be in Christ, yet drive the sword of man's judgment into those already wounded, just to make ourselves bigger. Bishop Long and others who have went through these kinds of allegations are automatically guilty, and men who have an agenda know this is the best way to scheme and lie on men of God, accuse them of sexual sin. And many, like sheep, immediately crucify someone on the basis of an allegation without knowing the story.

In my own life, I thank God for deliverance ministry, and ministries of restoration. I thank God for men who have been injured and know how to heal. I feel that Bishop Long may need such as this, since there are so many self righteous daggar bearers who seek opportunity to kill a man's spirit at every corner.

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So it was said before the incident, I've heard said in a way imply it was after. Not a big issue but always wondered about that.

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I hope the best for him, hope he comes to truth and gets saved.

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I'm sure Mr Long was told to settle out of court by everyone and his momma. Most usually do in these kind of cases. Unfortunately for Mr Long and others who have done so, in the eye of the public, settlement equals guilt. So regardless of what advice he was given and whether or not he was truly innocent in the matter ... most people will believe settling out of court makes him as good as guilty.

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If a person does not like Bishop Long he would still consider him guilty even if found not guilty in court and some who really like him would justify him and blame the accusers even if he admitted guilt.

The thing here is this --we don't really know what (if anything) went on with those young men. If the Bishop claims innocence, we have to accept that and respect him for his experience, calling, and walk with God.

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He did say he was going to fight this is. settling is not fighting.

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I'm sure at that time he intended to fight it, but he has since been advised to settle it and make it go away. That will always leave questions in the minds of some but it's probably the wisest thing to do. Get this over with and to on.

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Actully, we don't really know, it could be as you posted or he's guilty and just get by with little damage as possible verses what could come in a trial, but once again none of us know.

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Everyone's different, but couldn't see myself settle for something I didn't do.

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Yabut, King David wasn't big on teevee.

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You don't think Bishop Long is saved?

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Let him rest in peace, it's between him and God the condition his soul is in. We don't have to know whether he is guilty or innocent. We are not his judge.

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obsviously not by what I wrote

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Well, has he completed the three steps?
and has the right incantation been made at step 2?
and does the ministerial card in his wallet say UPC?

Judge for yourself whether he's really saved or not