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Falla39 06-04-2011 06:46 AM
Modesty And Legalism, by Steve Pixler
 
http://blog.stevepixler.com/

Austin 06-04-2011 08:37 AM
Re: Modesty And Legalism, by Steve Pixler
 
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Originally Posted by Falla39 (Post 1071560)
Jesus said; He that loves me, will keep my commandments. It's that simple without explanation.

Falla39 06-04-2011 08:53 AM
Re: Modesty And Legalism, by Steve Pixler
 
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Originally Posted by Austin (Post 1071585)
Jesus said; He that loves me, will keep my commandments. It's that simple without explanation.
1 John 5:3 KJV

For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Truthseeker 06-04-2011 10:15 AM
Re: Modesty And Legalism, by Steve Pixler
 
What are commandments is what some get cloudy.

Falla39 06-04-2011 11:36 AM
Re: Modesty And Legalism, by Steve Pixler
 
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1071603)
What are commandments is what some get cloudy.
Probably be best to start with the two and greatest commandments!

Austin 06-04-2011 11:46 AM
Re: Modesty And Legalism, by Steve Pixler
 
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Originally Posted by Falla39 (Post 1071625)
Probably be best to start with the two and greatest commandments!
Amen:happydance That's the real test if people are saved or just playing church.:thumbsup

Falla39 06-04-2011 12:10 PM
Re: Modesty And Legalism, by Steve Pixler
 
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Originally Posted by Austin (Post 1071629)
Amen:happydance That's the real test if people are saved or just playing church.:thumbsup
If we obey His commandments, we should have the love of God shed abroad
in our heart, BY THE HOLY GHOST! Rom.5:5 GOD IS LOVE.
Also if we do not love our brother who we have seen, how can we say we love
GOD who we have not seen. If we do not have the HOLY GHOST, how
can we say we love, really love our brother and sister. IF HIS LOVE is shed
abroad in our hearts by the HOLY GHOST, we should love everybody. Doesn't
mean we agree, but we should love. We are commanded to love our enemies.
We can love as GOD loved, by His Spirit that lives in us.
My late pastor used to teach, "If you can't love your spouse as you should,
love them as an enemy! God commanded us to love our enemies. Sobering,
isn't it!

Falla39

Austin 06-04-2011 12:15 PM
Re: Modesty And Legalism, by Steve Pixler
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Falla39 (Post 1071635)
If we obey His commandments, we should have the love of God shed abroad
in our heart, BY THE HOLY GHOST! Rom.5:5 GOD IS LOVE.
Also if we do not love our brother who we have seen, how can we say we love
GOD who we have not seen. If we do not have the HOLY GHOST, how
can we say we love, really love our brother and sister. IF HIS LOVE is shed
abroad in our hearts by the HOLY GHOST, we should love everybody. Doesn't
mean we agree, but we should love. We are commanded to love our enemies.
We can love as GOD loved, by His Spirit that lives in us.
My late pastor used to teach, "If you can't love your spouse as you should,
love them as an enemy! God commanded us to love our enemies. Sobering,
isn't it!

Falla39
Very much so!

acerrak 06-04-2011 01:53 PM
Re: Modesty And Legalism, by Steve Pixler
 
The Blessed Holy Ghost, we would be utterly Lost with out Him.

Austin 06-04-2011 02:32 PM
Re: Modesty And Legalism, by Steve Pixler
 
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Originally Posted by acerrak (Post 1071674)
The Blessed Holy Ghost, we would be utterly Lost with out Him.
BROTHER. that's the best truth I have seen on here in a long time. I would to Jesus that all would receive Him and then the age of the apostles would return in power and demonstration of that power. Truth would be in the eyes of the believers. What a rock to build on!

Jason B 06-04-2011 11:09 PM
Re: Modesty And Legalism, by Steve Pixler
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Falla39 (Post 1071560)
By the time I clicked the link Modesty and Legalism was the second blog entry. I forget the title of the first, I read the first 4 or 5 paragraphs, kinda long winded for me, and I read the first 2 paragraphs of the Modesty and Legalism entry.

I REALLY like alot of what Pixler's says on these topics. Which is probably suprising since alot of people think I'm "gone charismatic" and "liberal".

I don't think theres anything wrong with modesty, and I don't think EVERYTHING has to be abandoned just because it was associated with "being pentecostal".

I think the context that "standards" were taught in was completely wrong, fear based, legalistic, works-righteousness, and needs to be scrapped alltogether. That said I don't think the "Standards" themselves are all bad, and if were taught more as guidelines (than laws) that would be alot closer to the scriptural application.

I think often that churches who have come out of a standards background really shy away from teaching anything on the topic.

I like the way Bro. Pixler approaches this. I'm not saying I agree with everything He says on the topic, b/c I don't read his writings much, but I do think He is bringing a fresh approach that is taking the movement out of the 1950's and into the 21st century, I just wonder if they have enough sense to follow him?

SRM 06-05-2011 08:30 AM
Re: Modesty And Legalism, by Steve Pixler
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Badejo (Post 1071720)
By the time I clicked the link Modesty and Legalism was the second blog entry. I forget the title of the first, I read the first 4 or 5 paragraphs, kinda long winded for me, and I read the first 2 paragraphs of the Modesty and Legalism entry.

I REALLY like alot of what Pixler's says on these topics. Which is probably suprising since alot of people think I'm "gone charismatic" and "liberal".

I don't think theres anything wrong with modesty, and I don't think EVERYTHING has to be abandoned just because it was associated with "being pentecostal".

I think the context that "standards" were taught in was completely wrong, fear based, legalistic, works-righteousness, and needs to be scrapped alltogether. That said I don't think the "Standards" themselves are all bad, and if were taught more as guidelines (than laws) that would be alot closer to the scriptural application.

I think often that churches who have come out of a standards background really shy away from teaching anything on the topic.

I like the way Bro. Pixler approaches this. I'm not saying I agree with everything He says on the topic, b/c I don't read his writings much, but I do think He is bringing a fresh approach that is taking the movement out of the 1950's and into the 21st century, I just wonder if they have enough sense to follow him?
Rather than saying I have holiness standards,I say I have holiness principles based off of those standards I have been taught. Holiness does not just mean proper clothing imho

Sister Alvear 06-05-2011 10:10 AM
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I think Brother Pixler has a better way of expressing his veiws...some people are so hard and unbending in things that don´t really matter...he has traveled and seen other cultures and he is a very learned man and even in things I may or may not agree on...we are friends...

Like you...I have not read a whole lot of his writings but enough to see his approach on different subjects. MAYBE MY OPINION IS TOO CLOSE AS I CONSIDER HIM AND HIS FAMILY close friends....

He sure has a lot of young preachers coming up under him. He I AM SURE has a great vision not only for missions but for his city...may they reach every soul possible...in JESUS name....

Sister Alvear 06-05-2011 10:12 AM
Re: Modesty And Legalism, by Steve Pixler
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Badejo (Post 1071720)
By the time I clicked the link Modesty and Legalism was the second blog entry. I forget the title of the first, I read the first 4 or 5 paragraphs, kinda long winded for me, and I read the first 2 paragraphs of the Modesty and Legalism entry.

I REALLY like alot of what Pixler's says on these topics. Which is probably suprising since alot of people think I'm "gone charismatic" and "liberal".

I don't think theres anything wrong with modesty, and I don't think EVERYTHING has to be abandoned just because it was associated with "being pentecostal".

I think the context that "standards" were taught in was completely wrong, fear based, legalistic, works-righteousness, and needs to be scrapped alltogether. That said I don't think the "Standards" themselves are all bad, and if were taught more as guidelines (than laws) that would be alot closer to the scriptural application.

I think often that churches who have come out of a standards background really shy away from teaching anything on the topic.

I like the way Bro. Pixler approaches this. I'm not saying I agree with everything He says on the topic, b/c I don't read his writings much, but I do think He is bringing a fresh approach that is taking the movement out of the 1950's and into the 21st century, I just wonder if they have enough sense to follow him?

do you pastor?


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