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Hopefully this makes sence but I understand Pastors go thru a lot... But when someone inthe church is going through something does it put a burden on the pastor? Also what's the average length in time after someone backsides are they forgotten about... My guess is a month.

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This post sounds rather cynical. :blink Maybe you could elaborate a little about what led to your post?

There are good pastors and there are not-so-great pastors. Good pastors share the burdens of the congregation, they feel the pain when the saints are going through troubles, and are truly distressed when people leave the church (not to be confused with people simply attending a new church elsewhere). Growing up in a pastor's home, I know that my parents never forgot about people who backslid. They were always on their minds and hearts.

Not-so-great pastors are those who aren't really "people persons" (pardon the grammar), and either don't really care that much what is going on in the lives of others, OR they don't know how to convey it if they do.

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I can't go into any major detail other than the fact I have recently started goin to a different church but not at will and dont wanna become a hindrance to this wonderful Pastor his family or the church... So if I just stop goin and things are forgotten with time then I kno that would solve the problem in being a burden or a hindrance to revival. Which is pretty much the same with life in general.

How are you a hinderance to revival?

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I that my father, who is the pastor of our church, has not forgetten the people who have come, whether they have ever prayed through or not. I do not know how often that I have heard him call their names before God in prayer.

If you are going to this church and have been hurt before, take it to the pastor and do not worry about being an extra burden. If he is a true man of God, he will endevour to aid you. However, it is incumbent upon you to place yourself under his authority and be in submission to him. This is the case as long as he preaches and teaches the full council of God.

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one thing is for sure you never find a perfect church. and you never really find one that has 100% IDENTICAL views as you do.

going to church at some time everyone becomes a wounded worshipper.
it could be of what some one has said tword you, the preacher, the person sitting next to you, or it could be over doctrine thats being preached, and you dont agree with it.

i would first suggest reconcile. and try to work with the pastor, even if he is the one who may have wounded you. He is human just like you. But if you feel you cant. Pray about it. ask the Lord what He wants you todo.

Just remember the scripture states that if you have a problem with your brother leasve you gift at the alter and go make it right with them.

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Its not my current Pastor I have an issue with... Its the old one in which I was terribly hurt by... And very impossible to make things right... Its one of those situations where ive been told to leave it alone (the current Pastor knows the circumtance). Although the strange thing is I miss the ministry I was under really bad. I will say I have a wonderful Man of God now but I just miss the old church... There was a lot more involvement.

Been told to leave it alone? By whom? That sounds a little off to me.

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i Know how you feel. My first pastor had been at that church for 16 years. I loved his preaching, i loved his teaching. He decided that it was time for him to go, and it crushed alot of us.

I still miss his him. He was a good preacher in my eyes.

He even preached a sermon called the wounded worshiper, and that is were i have gotten the term.

the new preach was more modernized. I didnt like the long stories in the preaching, But this man would bend over backwards to help you.

But the preaching was really effecting me. I wasnt under conviction it was just that there was so many stories in his sermons and many he used over and over and over and over and over, and many times he would wander off topic, and would talk about the old times.

It was a odd feeling. There was times i would rathe r go to the nursery and watch the kids.

since then that church has had 3 major splits.
a evangeslist that was a member of the church who didnt get elected, started his own people left with him, another who was a bishop, took over another church and also people left with him.

alot of the people i knew was Gone, and the church really didnt feel like church.

it sounds like the former preacher was a daddy figure for you, as the first one was for me as well. and it is hard some times it truelly is.

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This doesn't sound strange at all. In fact it is actually pretty normal. The term most used is "Stockholm syndrome" after the tendency of hostages to start relating to their captors. A variation of it is when a battered woman calls the policy to stop the latest beating and then proceeds to start clawing at the officers when they try to haul him away.

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Houston hinderance to revival... Thats wat my previous pastor told me.
acerrak No he wasn't a dad figure to me... Just deep in the Word...
Jay I believe in 100% submission but not being controlled.
Bishop by my current Pastor he thinks I need to get past it... And leave it alone since I was told not to go back there.

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so you was kicked out of church, that is sorta what i am getting at from

i mean were all making speculations, cause we dont truely understand what your going through. Or exactly what happened. so all advaice is sorta limited.

Its ok though if you dont want to discuss it. The great things about forums is your identity is secrete. so alot of people definatly open up more on forums than they would in a face to face talk.

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Randy...strange but I had the same thought....

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Yes sir I was...i wouldnt mind opening up but hard tellin who knows who on here and if someone can identify the story... Just feel I need to b careful... Not to mention (and at the same time not bragging) but I have high respect for authority in the church

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No need to answer in the public forum, but ask yourself: were there criminal acts? If so, should you bring charges? Could doing so prevent future occurrences with other victims?

Don't let the Good Ole Boys Club stop you from doing what you believe you should do.

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No criminal acts done just complete controllness... Didnt submit to him telling me to take a seat apart with a pair of pliers only cuz I had no clue how to do so... But was threatened several times to b "let go" in a spand on a yr... But the Word was sooo deep, and didnt wanna b uprooted... Of couse more to the story as there always is and not trying to hind anything promise... Im hellbound anyways y would I hind things

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Thanks.

I wish you wouldn't think you are hell-bound. Maybe it should be a crime to make someone think that!

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Well he did mention he couldnt help me anymore... So wat would make me think anyone else can or is willing to... Also have no desire to stop a church from having revival. Dont wanna stand in anyones way of making it to heaven... Its just if I can force myself to stay home... I kno im sounding like I dont pray or anything but honestly I have a prayer life like I did before all this happened.