Wife Gets Cancer and then Husband Gets Fired....
 

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/06...nd-gets-fired/


Was there any justice in this?

Who will protect the rights of the little guy and the infirm?


Shouldn't Christians be aligned with people who fight to protect the rights of those who need the most protection?

If this husband had been a member of a Union, this just would not have happened.

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I feel for their situation, but I don't know many employers who will give you time off with pay unless you have vacation days or sick leave. Nor will they run their business at the convenience of the employee. According to the article, the employer needed the husband at work during regular business hours and didn't feel that nights and weekends would cut it.

How would being a member of a Union have helped? They would have forced the employer to give him time off with pay and held his job?

I'm not sure how this would be fairly resolved. Why is it that the employer is always expected to take the hit? My husband owns his own business, and he recently hired a friend of mine to answer emails for him. If she couldn't do it for whatever reason, he would have to hire someone else--because the work has to be done. It wouldn't matter if the reason was illness on her part or on the part of a family member--the emails would still need answering. Knowing my husband, he'd probably just go back to working the extra hours himself, but larger companies can't function like that, understandably.

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This is when family, friends, church and community have opportunity to step up to the plate and minister. Employers of long term employees can help, but to expect a business or the government to take full responsibility in this type situation is not just wrong, it simply cannot work. That is the very reason our government is broke and still spending like a drunken sailor, it cannot work very long.

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Your liberal victum postings.

This accountant has the opportunity t get a better job. In the bible God answered prayer and provided. In the liberal fascist agenda, they claim the company works for the employeee. Marx covered this very well.

JD
You don't know much about business. I do not know any accountants that are union shops. Gubment is the likely exception.

JD also as a leftist Dem doesn't understand we are sending jobs overseas because of greedy unions. I give an example. My largest client in 2001/2002 was Dell. They moved thousands of jobs to China. Blame the unions.

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Christians should be aligned with the Word of God and if you can find one word that says "unions" are the answer, please do tell.

I'll give you a hint: Jesus said WE...that's YOU and ME are to be His Hands, not a union, not an employer, not those dreaded, very mean wealthy people, and not even....hold on to you hat....the government!

Have you ever wondered that if every employer gave time off with pay as to how long there would be an employer to come back to?

The way liberals think is very puzzling.

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yes, a great time for the Church...:laffatu

the laugh at you is not directed at you this time ..but at us Church folk!

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this is why we need obama healthcare and a universal mandate.

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Sandie I hate to jump in here, but Unions came about because of our vacancy in the first place..that's neither your's nor my fault..but just a reality. of course the Church is a living organism in which there is more small than great men and women. ..:highfive

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Why does it have to be Obama's healthcare; why not yo mama's healthcare,,:laffatu..

sorry ..but I laugh at me more than you:heeheehee

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not my mama, yo mama

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not my mama yo bumber ...:laffatu:happydance


Obama care alright with me but there's got to be a reason why so many people in this country oppose it..

the mention of it wakes the dead..:heeheehee

see? I came alive at the sound of obama care :heeheehee

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Knew this was coming. Just go give your paycheck to the homeless. If you really care.

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How do you explain the thousands of waivers to obamacare if it's so good? Why are there businesses scrambling to get a waiver if it's going to be so good? Why is BO allowing such things, if it's so good?

There are so many businesses who will not hire at this time because they do not know what the future holds with obamacare. It's a job killing, hurtful propositon for so many people. Why don't you care about them? My husband and I can't afford to go to the doctor now, even though we have healtcare. Why? Because our premiumus and co-pays have shot thru the roof since just a few of obamacare mandates have taken effect. Do you care about us, DM?
We don't go to the doctor now. It's just an expensive catostropic policy in all intents and purposes.

Do you even know what's in Obamacare? Do you even know what it will take to create a "universal mandate"? Have you been paying attention at all as to what is going on in Europe? They've tried the marxist/socialist way of doing things and are now rioting in the streets. This country has gone so far astray from the constitution that we're on the verge of bankrupcy and you want more government spending?

Individual freedom, responsiblity and as Christians, depending on God's ways is what we need. Obamacare, etc.. is a very, very poor substitute.

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Good post Sandie. It's hard to believe some of the posts on AFF. I think some folks just post to stir up something. Or maybe they really are that ignorant! How many people will it take to question and oppose Obamacare to wake up some of the sleepers on AFF. You made it clear why it's not any good. The opposing side gives no reason and no explanation... just one liners praising Obama and failing policies.

BT

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I miss Bush. When we had 5% unemployment, a man loses the job, he goes and gets interviews and takes another job.

The underlying problem is high unemployment. Union is not the answer. In fact Where did the GM saturn workers and pontiac workers go to work? Where did their union save them.

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Sandie, I really don't know enough about Obama care. All I know is that a universal mandate will include young, healthy people that will help pay the catostrophic costs of people that purchase healthcare. A larger pool will drive down the costs for everyone. What's wrong with that idea? Can you give me some specifics about what is wrong with obamacare and I will try to look them up, instead of making blanket, generalized accusations?

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You are giving ideology and not facts. I read the bill before it was voted on. It creates massive expenses that have not a single thing to do with providing care.

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If you want the number one reason what is wrong with Obama care, please re-read your own words. The congress didn't know enough about it, BO didn't know enough about it, we were told....and this still floors me....we were told that congress had to pass it to know what is in it! Wowsers....the signers of the Decleration of INDEPENDENCE would be turning in their graves, if there was such a thing.

I can tell you off the top of my head that medicare is going to suffer because of Obamacare. Do you know why taxes didn't go up post haste? Because 500 billion dollars was removed from medicare to pay for obamacare. Did you recieve any benefits from that? I sure didn't. And nobody else has either.

If you're one of the very wealthy, it won't matter so much how high your taxes go up or who is able to hire now or not, but I can tell you for the vast majority of people it will be devistating. Remember the government creates no wealth, all it's programs come from picking the pockets of the average working man and woman.

Costs could go down just by allowing the purchasing of health care insurance across state lines. That would create a huge pool that would drive down costs for everyone.

I don't know what else to tell you, JD. It's a huge monstrosity of a government program that will destroy jobs, raid the treasure of ordinary folks and of this country as a whole. It's caused problems for my husband and I due to the rising costs of healthcare insurance, to which we were told the opposite would happen.

I can post other problems with it, such as the 2 plus trillion dollar bill, (yikes), but maybe if you research it you can come to a conclusion, at least based on as many facts as you can gather.
Which will put you head and shoulders above the people in congress who voted for this bill. :thumbsup

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I admit, at first read of the article I was upset; mostly with the timing and how bad I felt for the man. However, from a strictly business point of view, I don't see any other way around it. It's a terribly sad story, but what is the business expected to do?

As far as the Union comment. The business would be history if a union was involved. Unions do not care about the health of a business, nor of the business' ability to maintain profitability. They'd rather put a company out of business rather than make concessions to keep it going.

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JD makes stuff up like liberals do. Small companies are not under the Fed laws companies over 50 are covred by.
A company of non tecnical people, non trades peiple of 21 employees is likely to have exactly what knind of union fit their Plans? None? They are a rentals management company.

Don't make stuff up. What "rights"?

They company has a right to get their work done. They have a right to ask every worker to abide by vacatin and sick leave plocies.

No body wants to get sick. No companies want employees to have problems. Unions do not own these companies.

In fact union drones give the dishinest impression that they should rule the business.

What does an amish farmer do when his wife is sick? Tell the farm animals he has to be away for 3 months?

Unions have in the past had a little benefit. Today they cater to making workers lose intelligence and common sense.

Don't be dishionest. It looks like he was fired because he decided to stop working. Lots of workers keep working when spouses get sick.

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JD - hey did you miss me? I'm back but still pretty busy with life, in general.
Did you actually read the article?
The guy would not have been a member of a union, as he was part of the "evil" management team.
Also, just from reading the article I think there were some parts of the story that are missing.
It appeared to me that he tried to go in and say "here is my new schedule", rather than having a discussion about some options.

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The left media is just cranking out sob stories. 20 employee company. The account wants to work nights and weekends. When they have a meeting, hi is of course missing.

A business needs their accountant during business hours. The company needs to find one that can work during the day.

With her 60,000 in student loans, they should still have saved money. In the bigger picture, who is working for whom. I know a lot of people when disaster hits, they have no savings. Most accountants I know in small companies, work some weekends and work late several times a month and do take work home. The libs that write and read the lib media are out of touch.

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A union worker a ceo and tea party member are at the table. On the table are 100 cookies. The CEO takes 99 and looks at the Tea Party Member and says "that union guy is after your cookie. The facts are that organized labor is responsible for the 40 hour week, putting an end to child labor, over time pay and the birth of the middle class. Do you like the weekend? Thank the labor movement. Corporations move the factories over seas because they don't want to pay the overhead of responsibility. They are not loyal to America or any other country and they will use the cheapest labor and resources they can get.

In any other industrialized country this man wouldn't have lost his job and there wouldn't be devastating medical bills because for profit health care is illegal. In the US the number one cause of bankruptcy is health care cost but in countries with a national health care system people don't lose their homes when they get sick.

When will pride filled ignorant Americans wake up and realize that we are being robbed by by big business and the law maker that they own?

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We have plenty of free health care in this country ,the only thing we need to complete the situation is to make it illegal with federal law, to put it on ones credit report,problem solved !!

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Jd , read the article? but that would have destroyed his point!!!! :heeheehee

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My union (which im still a member of for pension puposes when i retire)though i dont work that trade because i have my own small business, has 9 VP's that make a minimum of 120,000 ea.40 hour weeks maybe 50 at times(and that was 20 years ago to my knowledge,who knows what today)while no one in the trade, even with lots of OT will make more than 80,000(and that would be 80 hour weeks for a year,wont happen) plus bennies. Is they're something wrong with this picture?

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Unions are greedy.


God loves us all. God says we will have our prayers answered if we pray for wisdom. The woman has lung cancer. She should have prayed for wisdom before smoking?
Unions brought a lot of problems. In

Wisconsin state officials have stated that damage to the marble inside and out the State Capitol due the the exploits of union protesters would cost an estimated $7.5 million to repair. How do we see benefit from unions?

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As I said before "The facts are that organized labor is responsible for the 40 hour week, putting an end to child labor, over time pay and the birth of the middle class. Do you like the weekend? Thank the labor movement." If the leaders of big business where so fair and benevolent there never would have been a need for Labor Unions. But unions are/were a response to poor wages, unsafe working conditions and the insatiable greed of company owners. Some companies would pay their workers in script that was only good at the company store. That made you a slave to the company. I suppose that if the companies could get Americans to work for 60 cents an hour or a dollar a day like they do in much of the rest of the world they would stay here and exploit the worker here. Is that what you want?

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I wouldn't argue that Unions had good intentions to begin with. However, the Unions of today are very different. They care only for power and the advancement of their agenda. People are the pawns they use to get what they want.

Today's Union would put any business owner out of business, along with the jobs provided if the owner doesn't submit to their demands.

Look at the Boeing plant situation. Boeing has created a lot of jobs at its plant in SC, but Unions, Obama and the NLRB would rather put that plant out of business and force workers to lose their jobs in order to relocate the plant in union-friendly Washington state.

Again, Unions started well, but have become a monster.

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when I read the article i also noticed some things missing. Some companies get rid of you when ever a health problem arises so they do not have to pay the health care cost. That happened to an uncle of mine many years ago. he had a heart attack and was fired the next day.
my brother got fired when his wife got a heart condition after the birth of their second child.
Is this fair?????? No, but it is life.Move on. have faith in jesus. trials are suppose to make us stronger, not weaker.
As for the man asking to work different hours- a company I worked for years ago sent me to school.They let me change my hours with somebody else to work second shift by our selves. So, sometimes you can work it out.
The personal manger of a place that I worked at in the past was out to fire people with health issues so the company could keep health care cost down. My foreman heard him say it. oooopppssss.........
once more it is life...... are faith should be in jesus and not our jobs.
deafdriscoll