Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
 

Could someone supply me with a list of similarities and differences?

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Well, for one thing they're both spelled slightly different.

Other then that, I can't think of anything really.

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It all depends. It used to be Pentecostals were stronger on holiness. Their foundation teachings are pretty much the same. Pentecostals used to believe in tarrying for the Holy Spirit while most Charismatics believed in receiving by faith.

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I was being someone sarcastic (surprise surprise) in my first post but the AoG consider themselves Pentecostal.

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Depends on who is defining it. In the churches I grew up in, Pentecostals believed in tongues, and had the outward standards.... Charismatics believed in tongues, without the outward standards.

But others would define it differently.

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Why?

BT

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Many Charismatics do not believe tongues is the only sign one has received the indwelling Holy Spirit, while still accepting tongues as an active gift for the church today...

...but the same can now be said for many Pentecostals - Oneness and Trinitarian.

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Pentecostal music tends to be either hymns, country or gospel. At least in my experience. The Charismatics I believe were inspired to create a more Biblical kind of praise and worship style. I would say that the Pentecostals have started to catch up with the praise and worship music. Even some of the Evangelicals have come on board with it.

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Both have moves of the Holy Spirit, both have active Gifts of the Spirit.

God doesnt discreminate between the 2. You will see great praise and worship from both sides.

hear is the declaration of faith my old trinitarian church

In the verbal inspiration of the Bible.
In one God eternally existing in three persons; namely, the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
That Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of the Father, conceived of the Holy Ghost, and born of the Virgin Mary. That Jesus was crucified, buried, and raised from the dead. That He ascended to heaven and is today at the right hand of the Father as the Intercessor.
That all have sinned and come short of the glory of God and that repentance is commanded of God for all and necessary for forgiveness of sins.
That justification, regeneration, and the new birth are wrought by faith in the blood of Jesus Christ.
In sanctification subsequent to the new birth, through faith in the blood of Christ; through the Word, and by the Holy Ghost.
Holiness to be God's standard of living for His people.
In the baptism with the Holy Ghost subsequent to a clean heart.
In speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance and that it is the initial evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost.
In water baptism by immersion, and all who repent should be baptized in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
Divine healing is provided for all in the atonement.
In the Lord's Supper and washing of the saints' feet.
In the premillennial second coming of Jesus. First, to resurrect the righteous dead and to catch away the living saints to Him in the air. Second, to reign on the earth a thousand years.
In the bodily resurrection; eternal life for the righteous, and eternal punishment for the wicked.

that can give you some comparisons

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The fundemental teachings of Pentecostal and Charismatic groups are very similar. Except when you factor in ONENESS PENTECOSTALS.

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Pentecostals emphasize the evidence of tongues for the baptism of the Holy Ghost

Charismatics emphasize tongues as one of the 9 gifts only and that anyone can receive any of the gifts

Pentecostals generally too believe in the 9 gifts for church edification but have the peculiar doctrine of the baptism of the Spirit being evidenced by tongues

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Oh. I thought there was going to be, like, a softball game or something. (My money would be on the Charismatics, of course! :lol)

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It is my own experience that most Charismatic Churches also believe the evidence doctrine.

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Then they are not charismatic. Pentecostal refers to the doctrine of tongues being the evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost

If some group you claim are charismatic believe the evidence doctrine they they are really Pentecostal, not Charismatic.

The Charismatic renewal movement began long before some Ultra Con UPCer decided to label any pastor that dropped standards as "Charismatic"

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I fellowshipped among the Charismatic Movement from 1975-1984. I still will fellowship them to the extent they will fellowship me. I speak from personal experience on the Charismatic Movement. There are various beliefs among them. Some as you say hold tongues is merely one of nine gifts.

Many hold the same doctrine on tongues as Classic Pentecostals but differ on how to receive the baptism. The differences between Pentecostal and Charismatic are indeed becoming smaller.

Other issues have divided the two groups more than whether tongues is the initial evidence in the past. Things such as holiness issues and forms of worship.

I usually count myself as a Charismatic/Pentecostal when these kind of discussions come up.

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The larger churches I've visited (either way) also incorporate black gospel/choir music. The hymn/country gospel, from what I've seen and experienced, is usually in the much smaller churches.

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Pentecostals:
Have traditions and standards.

Charismatics:
Few traditions or standards.

Both focus on being obedient to moral law for the most part.
Both believe in the spiritual gifts.

Both, the Pentecostals or the Charismatics, might be Oneness or Trinitarian.

That's my understanding.

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I think that pretty much sums it up, not that traditions and standards are viewed as something to be shunned by one group more than the other, just that Charismatics tend to exist outside long-standing denominational structures.

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There were tongues and interpretation last night at my church.

One thing that stood out right away was that the person who spoke in tongues was the one who gave the interpretation.


It has been my experience in the past that whenever someone spoke in tongues (in that way) someone else gave the interpretation.

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Someone define Charismatic...

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Most Pentecostals don't believe in standards

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Paul said let he that speaks in a tongue pray to interpret so the church would be edified...BTW this is the wrong thread for that topic

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Already defined. Read through the thread

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Well... not as we may think of them, but I think they generally do have a belief structure that is codified in their denomination.

I guess all I am really saying is that Charismatic Christians do not tend to be affiliated with denominations.

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Let me clarify. Most pentecostals don't have an outward appearance standard involving clothing, makeup, Jewelry and hair, but also including such activities as movies and TV etc etc

Most do not. Perhaps most Oneness Pentecostal groups do but when it comes to Pentecostal Id say most do not

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Actually in the beginning of the movement thats what it was all about. Baptists, Catholics, Lutherans, Whatevers who were getting the Holy Ghost and STAYING in their Churches.

After a while they began to form Churches made up of those leaving the various denominations.

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there is a book called the 2oth century pentacostals, talks about topeka kansas and asuza street. really everyone one from all over the place didnt matter the denomenations came to this,

Infact the racial walls was down and really blacks and white mixed together with out segregation, which was awsoem in itself.

the term charasmatic just means gifts, nothing more.

the wesleyan movement believed in the baptism of the Holy spirit but they didnt view it with initial evidence.

william seymour really didnt teach initial evidence as well, but in some newspaper he did make the comment that all the gifts of the Spirit was at work. Its amazing how this revival kept going with out any human organization. it truely was organized by God

I read Catholic Pentecostalism. It was an interesting read. It is about the charismatic renewal.

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I should have made it clear why I posted this here.

In my years of attending Oneness Pentecostal churches, whenever someone spoke in tongues for the entire congragation to hear, someone else would give the interpretation.



Attending this charismatic church now and this is the first time I have ever seen the person who is speaking in tongues to deliever a message from the Lord give the interpretation of that message.

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1Cr 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.

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Every body believes in standards. The gay pride nude parades have standards. The cashier at mc Donalds has standards. The soldier has standards.

The tattood basketball player has standards. Sagging trousers are an example of standards. Now that We realize everyone has standards, the question is the source of standards.

On conservative dress, those that have liberal standards usually drift to calling the standards "traditions" instead of modesty or biblical before they reject them. Wimbleton has standards. All Tennis players wear white. The snack is strawberries and cream.

Augusta County club didn't admit blacks before 1990 and today doesn't grant women membership.

Standards are everywhere. Rebellious people strive against standards. Some say standards from the pulpit are a form of abuse.

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"Standards" are one thing, legalistic hogwash bashed over peoples heads as a method of control and subjugation are quite another. People confuse standards set by man with Holiness demanded by God all the time.

God's idea of Holiness is more lofty than we can imagine and even then most bun sportin, dress wearin, holier than thous fail miserably to measure up because they have traded the love of God for the laws of man!!

Wow, im soapboxin today!!!

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Much edit....

Myriad of definitions of Pentecostal, some coincide with Charismatic. Word of God can give clarity on the issues of either/both.

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Another difference between Charismatic and Pentecostal is the Charismatics are more likely (in my experience) to spend time praying in tongues. Many Pentecostals dont believe one can just pray in tongues when they desire.

Also Charismatics are more likely to sing in tongues.

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That is the best thing I've heard today!!!!!!

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Oh? How does it do that?

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I mean studying Word can facilitate in getting answers about any denomination, or doctrine.

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What about conflicting doctrines? Can you use the Word to determine which one is correct (if any)?

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Well, the Bible is the doctrine. You don't have it validate a church, the church must go with the Bible. If it comes from humanism, it will lead to confusion. Hunger is where answers come from. One of my theories is that there is a doctrine for every belief of man. Ironically there is only one doctrine that is correct.
Strange fact, and proof- Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah's Witness, Evangelicals; a least 3 of these are false doctrine.