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Not completely unrelated to my previous thread: And yes this is a UPC church.

Watch the girl shove a guy to the floor @ the 1:30 mark, "in the Spirit" of course....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=215C-tadRmk

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pronouncing the Holy Ghost on a clueless child (see 41 second mark), in an Apostolic church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wANNW...eature=related

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I would be interested in knowing where is your next stop? When you say you are rejecting all things Pentecostal does that include the Charismatic movement? Dont misunderstand because to me "Charismatic" is not some dirty word and I was baptized into the name of Jesus IN a Charismatic Church.

Long ago (1983) I left the Trinitarian Pentecostal and Oneness Pentecostal movements because of things like in those videos, constant begging and deceiving to get money, ect.

That did not cause me to forsake Oneness doctrine neither the new birth teaching of Acts 2:38. What I have found is a vast wasteland of Churches out there. If you think there is something better than Pentecostal/Charismatic out there I think you may be surprised.

For me its been nothing but home Churches and internet fellowship with an occasional visit to "Churches". I have never been interested in non Spirit filled groups the differences between them and me makes fellowship as likely as dipping out the Ocean with a spoon.

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well i have seen people hit the floor but i never seen them flop like a fish out of water,
but again that is between them and God.

just in you endeavor to seek spiritual enlightment dont leave the new wine behind.

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I've seen the first video clip before. Oh, the memories (good ones, mind you. No sarcasm intended). Although, after seeing it again, I'm not surprised to see the girl push the guy. It appears to be her way of telling him to fall in the spirit, using her "in the spirit" as a disguise. What she probably doesn't realize is it was caught on tape and appears to be blatant...

The second video wouldn't pull up for me...

I, too, was baptized and received the HG is a UPC-turned-charismatic (still oneness) church. Seeing the movements of the Spirit in both charismatic and traditional pentecostal churches proves to me God is certainly no respector of persons; He'll move according to the hunger of the people in worship. And the night I was filled not only involved a hunger from within myself, but the rest of the congregation as well. Lloyd Bustard's name will forever remain associated with that experience, as he was preaching that same night.

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why the big rush to towel off his face?

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As will T F Tenny's name for me.

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I'm havin trouble finding something good to say......

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Many times we allow emotionalism to overtake us, and in our haste we say things we think instead of what we know. But, this is where the issue of grace comes into play.

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If someone was out of control and heading my way, I'd shove them too...not with the intent of pushing them to the ground in a certain direction

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i guess i do not see her shove him. it may be how it 'looks' but not what I got out of it. she does not even look to be even with him enough to reach out and shove him. not seeing it

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Yeah I didn't see it either

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I think some have decided to pull SO FAR AWAY from things that now they may be SEEING THINGS?? maybe?? :)

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Well I dunno but personally I don't have an issue with people dancing or moving around, but don't close your eyes and just do whatever you feel. That's not "the Spirit"...you can dance but nobody dances in the Spirit. We are dancing, open your eyes and dance if you want, but if you start heading in my direction and are about to run into me? Those hands you feel are not the hands of an angel ok?

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maybe she pushed him in self defense, thinking he was going to dance right into her with his eyes closed?

it's been awhile ago, like years ago, but i've been in services that like where people were so lost in worship that they weren't paying attention to what they were doing, dancing with their eyes closed

i went to youth camp once, the power of God fell, folding chairs went flying, young people lost their voices praising God

I'll tell you what, i'd rather see people get emotional praising god, then be like Micah who despised David when she saw him leaping and dancing and praising God, and was barren the rest of her life.

in fact, mabye tomorrow in church I'll run and dance and praise him

1 Praise ye the LORD.
Praise God in his sanctuary:
praise him in the firmament of his power.


2 Praise him for his mighty acts:
praise him according to his excellent greatness.


3 Praise him with the sound of the trumpet:
praise him with the psaltery and harp.


4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance:
praise him with stringed instruments and organs.


5 Praise him upon the loud cymbals:
praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.


6 Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD.
Praise ye the LORD.

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Folding chairs even went flying?
Wow
Hopefully nobody got hit with one.

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Check out 1:34 seconds.

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not sure what you mean

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This thread is very disturbing.

1. I don't know why folks would post the video on the interwebs.
2. I don't know why some folks feel qualified to mock and ridicule the worship habits of other Christians.
3. I don't know why some folks feel the need to assign evil motives to everything Pentecostal.

But what do I know.

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Okay, I can agree with you. I could have worded what I said a little differently. Certainly not discrediting what's taking place as a whole. But, the things we see sometimes can lead us to question them. However, I'm sure someone or a group of people in the video walked away changed...

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1. I agree, but if they do, then the public has the right to view it and make conclusions. Secondly, a visual aid/example is helpful in a conversation sure to take the course this one has already begun to.

2. I don't know why some folks feel like anything goes in the House of God, and completely ignore the guidelines given to us for a Spirit filled church service in 1 Corinthians 14, justifying craziness and baming it on the Spirit, when one of the fruits of the Spirit is self control.

3. I don't understand how that when someone points out that these things are anti-biblical, they are assigned evil motives by christian bretheren, rather than go to the scriptures, which forever mires the pentecostal movement in spiritual immaturity (just like the Corinthians).

What do I know?

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worshiping god music music and dancing is anti biblical? i dont think so

if you had been in Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost, you probably would not have liked that either.

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You know what? This video is so NOT who we are as a church, but I will never make fun of someone´s worship. I have seen our young people so drunk in the Holy Ghost that they have to be led or carried home. Even children - so lost in the power of God that they can´t stop speaking in tongues. Our worship is different than this, but if you would have seen our recent youth conference, you´d probably be posting videos of it too and folks would criticize. It was wild, but those kid´s lives were radically changed.

Give me a little wildfire, rather than deadness. That may surprise some of you!

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I knwo I posted about emotionalism in a previous post, but then I began to look at my own style of praise and worship. I would run, shout, speak in tongues, wave my hands, and even do a kind of interpretive praise unto the Lord. emotional? Absolutely, and probably more so this morning at GloryLand. So, I guess maybe I spoke completely out of turn.

He saved me with His whole life. I shall praise Him with all mine.

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While all know I deeply believe in worship and all that goes along with it...however there must be balance and order in a church service...I like those what I call GOD SERVICES when all you can do is worship...however on the other hand to worship with all our knowlege we must know something about worship...so teaching is also important...or we could profane the holy... I think a pastor has a great responsibility teaching the people to follow the leadings of the Lord. God works sometimes in strange ways...I don't think there is a SET way to worship...sometimes we are quite and the spirit bathes us other times we are loud and rejoicing. The most important thing to me is follow the Leading of the Lord.
More later...if have time....

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I think variety is good. But there are extremes. Not only in the initial videos but in other forms of Christian worship. I often endure rather than enjoy, but I also know people connect with God in various ways. Shockamoo is one way that man responds to God, be it excessive or otherwise. There are other ways man worships such as in these videos of liturgical chant and interpretive dance. All three are a bit excessive for my taste, but nevertheless I do believe they can be and are a sincere attempt at man approaching and worshipping God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh_ka...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH-EE...3AD670AE6B3039

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:thumbsup:thumbsup

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Sherri if their lives were not changed then there would have been a problem.
:)

I am nor for people being stupid when they worship. I have seen people do some pretty dumb things: run with their eyes closed and break a bone running into a wall or post, kicking chairs through windows, hit people with flailing arms and feet, etc etc.
Sis A said it right, there has to be balance in our worship and praise. Besides we are told to do things decently and with order.
I would much rather have some live action, with order to it, than I would to be around a bunch of dead dried up pharisees. Got a lot of churches that want things too decent and in order and then others that want to just let it all hang out. GET BALANCED :)

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its been over 10 years since i have seen a church get anywhere near that expressive in worship. I'd bet that utube was old. imho we have gone way in the opposite direction where people are really not extravagant in their expression of worship. but are rather quite restrained.

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One thing I like that many UC´s don´t seem to like...is sign choirs and things like that and I know we all relate to some things better than other things.

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http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...i/SANY0172.jpg young people from one of our village churches,

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In Brazil our people love chiors, uniforms and whatever...and so do I.

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http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...i/SANY0195.jpgJEWISH SONG AND WORSHIP

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Been in many services like that, don't always agree with the things that go on but God has a pretty good way of sorting the wheat from the chaff. I just try to stay saved and try to keep a good attitude.

It does seem that something is riding Jason, when you see a critical attitude like his there is usually bitterness behind it driving it on.

Sure, there are extremes in Pentecost but give it enough time and usually they moderate down. This is human nature.

Nothing better out there, God is good!

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0:41-0:47. "Did you get that on tape? Cuz that was gooood!"

:toofunny

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how about at about 1:30-1:34 where the brother "fell under the power" after the sister pushed him?

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That was awesome, too! :)

Why is a church always judgd as dead or dry based on the PHYSICAL response of a crowd? I've seen clips on youtube of southern baptist preaching that challenged me so I could do nothing but exit the internet, go to my study, and seek God. Services with no antics, no amens, and no one "worshipping."

As for the "lives changed" comment. I would say that is the exception, not the rule. Often those who exhibit the most shockamoo are quite unstable, in and out of church, have bad attitude, etc.

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would say that you probably haven't been in the 'right' church then. besides the ones I know that worship like that tend to FROWN on use of the internet and thus we would most likely NOT see anything from them.

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Then I would say your experience is far to limited.