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deacon blues 08-05-2011 08:49 PM

I Told You Back In 2008---You Wouldn't Listen
 
Many Obama supporters on here back in '08 were giving all of their reasons why we needed to have a president like Barak Obama. He was a young, vibrant, telegenic politician who gave many Americans a sense of hope. To many of us there was enough in his history, his statements, his associations and his campaign that we warned those of you who voted for BO or those who sat out the election or voted third party that four years of Obama would do severe damage to this nation that it would not be worth itto have him elected. Some of you said, "It took a Jimmy Carter to give us Ronald Reagan." Really foolish logic.

For the first time in American history, a hundred year's worth of AAACredit rating, a rating that endured WWI, the stock market crash in 1929, the Great Depression, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War, 9/11, we have been downgraded to AA+. The blame for this must be laid at BO's feet.

There hasn't been a budget submitted in two years. The president had all year to lead the way on the debt ceiling issue and refused to submit a formal plan. All we got from him was lectures and calling on the Congress to do something about it. Standard and Poor warned Washington that unless $4 trillion in spending cuts over the next 10 years was agreed to, our rating would be at risk. Obama would barely agree to $2.3 trillion.

He is the POTUS. He is the most powerful and influential man on the planet. He was noticably on the sidelines when it came to this issue. He came out this week blaming Bush, the Japanese earthquake & tsunami, etc. No leadership, only blame.

You realize that the "cuts" are actually cuts in the growth of spending not real cuts like you and I consider cuts in our spending. This situation is a mess. If you still are blindly supporting Obama, if you plan to vote for him in 2012, I guess if Obama were caught with an intern in the Oval Office you wouldn't believe it even if she could produce a blue dress...

Barak Obama must NOT get reelected! We cannot afford four more years of his presidency.

canam 08-05-2011 09:17 PM

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If you voted for Obama in 08 to prove you wern't racist ,you bettter vote for someone else in 12 to prove your not an idiot !

Charnock 08-05-2011 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canam
If you voted for Obama in 08 to prove you wern't racist ,you bettter vote for someone else in 12 to prove your not an idiot !

It's as if he's drowning with no way out.

This situation is reaching crisis proportions unseen in our lifetimes. We are a nation with no leadership.

acerrak 08-05-2011 09:37 PM

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this mans approval ratings is like the lowest of presidents. if he gets re-elected,
it would have to be a fixed election. we give to much money away each year to countries so we can have war games in their back yards. its time to get back to the home front.

unemployment is seiging are country,

TJJJ 08-06-2011 12:39 PM

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Should be interesting this next week, look for another drop in the stock market!

MusicMaster 08-06-2011 12:49 PM

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We lost so much from our 401K in 2008, that we have rolled everything that can possibly be invested in bonds since that day. We lost over half of our retirement fund because of the plummet in the stocks. We are contributing only the minimum percentage of payroll allowed to keep from losing the rest of it in penalties for letting it close out. We are still losing money, but at least it's only trickling out a few pennies a quarter instead of hundreds of dollars each quarter. I don't see things getting better anytime soon.

Our savings have gone into stocking non perishable groceries and survival items, and getting ourselves completely out of debt. At least we will get some benefit from the money and not just have it sucked out of our retirement account.

CC1 08-06-2011 12:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1087309)
Many Obama supporters on here back in '08 were giving all of their reasons why we needed to have a president like Barak Obama. He was a young, vibrant, telegenic politician who gave many Americans a sense of hope. To many of us there was enough in his history, his statements, his associations and his campaign that we warned those of you who voted for BO or those who sat out the election or voted third party that four years of Obama would do severe damage to this nation that it would not be worth itto have him elected. Some of you said, "It took a Jimmy Carter to give us Ronald Reagan." Really foolish logic.

For the first time in American history, a hundred year's worth of AAACredit rating, a rating that endured WWI, the stock market crash in 1929, the Great Depression, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War, 9/11, we have been downgraded to AA+. The blame for this must be laid at BO's feet.

There hasn't been a budget submitted in two years. The president had all year to lead the way on the debt ceiling issue and refused to submit a formal plan. All we got from him was lectures and calling on the Congress to do something about it. Standard and Poor warned Washington that unless $4 trillion in spending cuts over the next 10 years was agreed to, our rating would be at risk. Obama would barely agree to $2.3 trillion.

He is the POTUS. He is the most powerful and influential man on the planet. He was noticably on the sidelines when it came to this issue. He came out this week blaming Bush, the Japanese earthquake & tsunami, etc. No leadership, only blame.

You realize that the "cuts" are actually cuts in the growth of spending not real cuts like you and I consider cuts in our spending. This situation is a mess. If you still are blindly supporting Obama, if you plan to vote for him in 2012, I guess if Obama were caught with an intern in the Oval Office you wouldn't believe it even if she could produce a blue dress...

Barak Obama must NOT get reelected! We cannot afford four more years of his presidency.

Excellent post. I agree 100%.

CC1 08-06-2011 12:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by canam (Post 1087312)
If you voted for Obama in 08 to prove you wern't racist ,you bettter vote for someone else in 12 to prove your not an idiot !

Quote of the week! ROFLMBO!!!:thumbsup:happydance

pelathais 08-06-2011 01:25 PM

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The very plain fact that BO hasn't submitted a budget in over 2 years, coupled with the fact that the Dem controlled Senate hasn't passed a single budget bill in as long either shows just how the Democrat party "governs."

They don't. They demand blank checks. We someone stands up to them and asks to see a budget or other type of plan, the Dems all cry out, "YOU'RE AN EXTREMIST!!!"

These people need to be sent home and put in line at the unemployment office so that they can see the failure of their system.

Sam 08-06-2011 02:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by acerrak (Post 1087314)
this mans approval ratings is like the lowest of presidents. if he gets re-elected,
it would have to be a fixed election. we give to much money away each year to countries so we can have war games in their back yards. its time to get back to the home front.

unemployment is seiging are country,

I seriously doubt that Obama will be voted out of office. With the unions and George Soros and the Chicago political machine gone national plus ACORN (by whatever name they are hiding under now) the actual vote figures will have no resemblance to the numbers officially reported which is what the election is based upon.

Amanah 08-06-2011 02:27 PM

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what we need is a charismatic Rep candidate with a solid background in economics.

Hoovie 08-06-2011 02:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1087442)
I seriously doubt that Obama will be voted out of office. With the unions and George Soros and the Chicago political machine gone national plus ACORN (by whatever name they are hiding under now) the actual vote figures will have no resemblance to the numbers officially reported which is what the election is based upon.

I think he is gone!

Pragmatist 08-06-2011 05:59 PM

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What bothers me is the media still fawning all over him. Unemployment is over 9% and because it went down 0.1% this is good news????

If a Republican were in office, we would be hearing constantly about the horrible economy and unemployment and how it was all the Republican's fault, but since it's Obama, well, :blah

LifeGuide 08-06-2011 07:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1087309)
Many Obama supporters on here back in '08 were giving all of their reasons why we needed to have a president like Barak Obama. He was a young, vibrant, telegenic politician who gave many Americans a sense of hope. To many of us there was enough in his history, his statements, his associations and his campaign that we warned those of you who voted for BO or those who sat out the election or voted third party that four years of Obama would do severe damage to this nation that it would not be worth itto have him elected. Some of you said, "It took a Jimmy Carter to give us Ronald Reagan." Really foolish logic.

For the first time in American history, a hundred year's worth of AAACredit rating, a rating that endured WWI, the stock market crash in 1929, the Great Depression, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War, 9/11, we have been downgraded to AA+. The blame for this must be laid at BO's feet.

There hasn't been a budget submitted in two years. The president had all year to lead the way on the debt ceiling issue and refused to submit a formal plan. All we got from him was lectures and calling on the Congress to do something about it. Standard and Poor warned Washington that unless $4 trillion in spending cuts over the next 10 years was agreed to, our rating would be at risk. Obama would barely agree to $2.3 trillion.

He is the POTUS. He is the most powerful and influential man on the planet. He was noticably on the sidelines when it came to this issue. He came out this week blaming Bush, the Japanese earthquake & tsunami, etc. No leadership, only blame.

You realize that the "cuts" are actually cuts in the growth of spending not real cuts like you and I consider cuts in our spending. This situation is a mess. If you still are blindly supporting Obama, if you plan to vote for him in 2012, I guess if Obama were caught with an intern in the Oval Office you wouldn't believe it even if she could produce a blue dress...

Barak Obama must NOT get reelected! We cannot afford four more years of his presidency.

Amen Deac...Amen.

Esther 08-07-2011 03:20 PM

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I have said from the beginning and I see evidence that BO goal all along has been to try and destroy America!

AncientPaths 08-07-2011 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esther
I have said from the beginning and I see evidence that BO goal all along has been to try and destroy America!

So based on that, he's a brilliant evil mastermind as opposed to an inept leader. Yeah, that's believable. ;)

Hoovie 08-07-2011 04:10 PM

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Not an evil mastermind, but more than an inept leader... I think BO does not seek America's best interest first.

deacon blues 08-07-2011 05:08 PM

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He's an ideologue. He's a liberal academic. He is brainwashed with Keynesian economics, Jeremiah Wright theology, Bill Ayers politics and 60s era socialism. These people are so convinced that the best way to a more perfect union is to promote social justice and economic equality. Even in the face of fundamental mathematics that any Middle School student can understand, arithmetic that plainly is warning us that we're in trouble if we don't stop spending, these guys don't get it. They can't fathom cutting back on governemnt programs designed to achieve their ideological goals. The S&P warned months in advance that unless $4 trillion in cuts were produced soon a downgrade would ensue. What did this president offer? NOTHING! He offered no plan whatsoever. He is absolutely a horrific president! I hate that he's this bad, its not making anything easier for any of us.

deacon blues 08-07-2011 05:12 PM

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Dow futures are down 300 points as I speak. Last week before the debt ceiling issue was settled last Sunday, Dow futures on Sunday were down 100 points. By end of the week, the Dow dropped hundreds of points. Buckle up, tomorrow is gonna be a wild ride!

coadie 08-07-2011 05:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1087672)
Dow futures are down 300 points as I speak. Last week before the debt ceiling issue was settled last Sunday, Dow futures on Sunday were down 100 points. By end of the week, the Dow dropped hundreds of points. Buckle up, tomorrow is gonna be a wild ride!

Adjusting for inflation and the severe drop in the dollar, the market should be at 17,000 DJIA

Apprehended 08-07-2011 08:26 PM

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Deacon, I agree and I too have the same sentiments as you do. However, there was a budget submitted by BO. It was so awful that Harry Reed had to hold his nose. It was voted down in the Senate 98 to 0. It was so bad that he didn't get even one vote from the most liberal senators of his own home state. Even ol' Barry Sanders (I) didn't vote for it though he never saw a socialist program he didn't like.

It is truly amazing to me how the electorate could have been so duped by this empty suit now the POTUS. Simply amazing.

RandyWayne 08-07-2011 10:59 PM

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Deacon, I heard I heard! I listened I listened! I KNEW the worlds largest "I told you so!!" come coming soon after his election, but most of the people I know who voted for him have created such a strong "logic bubble" around them that it will always be "Georgie's Fault", no matter what Bam does. The type of person who thinks were in too much debt because we didn't spend enough is a person to whom there is no logical discussion with.

canam 08-08-2011 12:30 PM

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Resident oblamea ! :)

deacon blues 08-10-2011 02:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 1087724)
Deacon, I agree and I too have the same sentiments as you do. However, there was a budget submitted by BO. It was so awful that Harry Reed had to hold his nose. It was voted down in the Senate 98 to 0. It was so bad that he didn't get even one vote from the most liberal senators of his own home state. Even ol' Barry Sanders (I) didn't vote for it though he never saw a socialist program he didn't like.

It is truly amazing to me how the electorate could have been so duped by this empty suit now the POTUS. Simply amazing.

That budget was going to add $10 trillion more to the debt!

deacon blues 08-10-2011 02:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1087761)
Deacon, I heard I heard! I listened I listened! I KNEW the worlds largest "I told you so!!" come coming soon after his election, but most of the people I know who voted for him have created such a strong "logic bubble" around them that it will always be "Georgie's Fault", no matter what Bam does. The type of person who thinks were in too much debt because we didn't spend enough is a person to whom there is no logical discussion with.

The hypocrisy of it all is what they criticize George W Bush and the GOP Congress of doing that led to the problems in '08 Obama has done 4 TIMES AS WORSE!

And they can say with a straight face: "George Bush did this".

The truth is---if W started a fire in '08, Obama poured a pipeline full of gasoline on it '09-'11!

deacon blues 08-10-2011 02:58 PM

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Dow dropped down 513 points on Thursday last week.

Dow dropped 635 points Monday.

Dow bounces back 429 points Tuesday.

Dow drops another 519 points today.

Will any of the BO supporters admit that these economic policies of the POTUS AREN'T WORKING?

JD are you STILL gonna vote for BO in 2012? Seriously? In spite of the obvious?

BrotherEastman 08-10-2011 03:46 PM

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What? No Obama supporters on this thread? Why am I not suprised? lol

deacon blues 08-10-2011 03:56 PM

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They were all over this forum gloating after "the One we hasd been waiting for" won in 2008. I warned them then that he would be a one-termer. I warned them that his policies would make a bad situation worse. It seems they have left the forum or they only lurk these days.

canam 08-10-2011 06:01 PM

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Ignorance...Is When You Don't Know. Stupid... Is When You Won't listen To Who Does Know.
POTUS on both counts !

NorCal 08-10-2011 06:06 PM

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Congress sets the budget. Since the Dems took over in '06/'08 the debt has gone from 8 trillion to 14 trillion. In 4-6 years they have ran up more on the nations "credit card" then in the previous 200 years combined.

I have a feeling it is going to take another World War to bring us out of this depression again.

pelathais 08-10-2011 07:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1088613)
They were all over this forum gloating after "the One we hasd been waiting for" won in 2008. I warned them then that he would be a one-termer. I warned them that his policies would make a bad situation worse. It seems they have left the forum or they only lurk these days.

I think most of "them" got the boot over an unrelated flare up.

... I hate to be the one to remind everyone... The incumbent always has a huge advantage - especially in Presidential elections. The Big 0 isn't "out" until he actually gets voted out. Meanwhile, he's still the number one seed in the upcoming contest. Don't take anything for granted!

smurfette 08-10-2011 09:13 PM

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I am seriously looking at Herman Cain. I'm very impressed by him.

Esther 08-10-2011 09:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 1088636)
I think most of "them" got the boot over an unrelated flare up.

... I hate to be the one to remind everyone... The incumbent always has a huge advantage - especially in Presidential elections. The Big 0 isn't "out" until he actually gets voted out. Meanwhile, he's still the number one seed in the upcoming contest. Don't take anything for granted!

I'm afraid you are right. Plus don't be surprised if it seems he may lose that they find a way to call for marshall law to keep him president. he wants to be a dictator!

deacon blues 08-10-2011 09:49 PM

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The blame game is unreal. BO has blamed W, the media, the tsunami, the Arab Spring, millionaires and billionaires, private jet owners, Wall Street, bankers, corporations, those making $250K or more, Fox News, the Tea Party, the GOP led House, et al. It would be redeeming to hear the man say, "We spent too much, we grew the govt too big too fast. Won't happen.

canam 08-11-2011 04:48 AM

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I agree deac he is toast !

pelathais 08-11-2011 03:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by canam (Post 1088708)
I agree deac he is toast !

Can you even vote here?

canam 08-11-2011 06:24 PM

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:smack:smack


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