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I'm sure it's been debated here before but i'm curious. How do you all feel about it. Complete liberty to do as you wish, moderation, or complete abstinence?

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Explanations would be nice too. thanks

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well, most of the time i go for complete abstinence, but, i will have an occasional glass of red wine, and i mean like maybe twice a year on a special occasion if we are eating out.

I think that alcohol is dangerous though, people don't know if they are prone to becoming an alcoholic. In my opinion, its every bit as dangerous as smoking pot, or snorting coke under the "right" conditions.

its just a legal, versus an illegal drug. both alcohol and pot should either be legal or illegal, there isn't much difference in the destruction they can wreak.

that being said, even if pot was legal, i still would not partake of it. I think because one glass of wine doesnt really alter me, but one joint would deffinately alter me.

not a real black/white position i know . . .

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Yeah, we have discussed it a few times but that's alright. Most topics make their rounds about once a year.

Moderation is Biblical in most things including alcohol.

I would be fine with displaying and using in wine/alcohol in moderation. I have had wine for communion on occasion as well.

That being said, my wife was raised a teetotaler and she does not appreciate wine bottles displayed alongside the bran cereal... I have learned to respect that and don't keep any alcohol in our home except cooking wines.

No keg parties with the family though!

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your cooking wine is just bad wine that they would not sell otherwise with salt added to them and then a higher price charged for a smaller amount. You would be better off just not using it at all if you are going to respect your wife's feelings about this or get it through her head that there is nothing wrong with the real thing. jmho. :) I am NOT an advocate of cooking wines because they are such bad wines.

As for me, I have no problem with anyone drinking alcohol as long as they do it in moderation. If you can not be moderate with it then you probably shouldn't do it.

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How bout all three..:laffatu


There was a place in my life when I had it as I wished...

Then came moderation then came complete abstinence..

complete abstinence is the best..:heeheehee

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I know and agree.

However, I am not on any mission to get things through my spouse's head. :) LOL!

I value peace.

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Complete abstinence.
Too dangerous to fool with something
that can alter my thinking.
Some can try for moderation,
but, if they really like the taste of
the stuff, it won't be moderate for long.

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Do you think Jesus ran into that argument in his day?

What has changed? Are there more alcoholics today than in His day?

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I am not so sure it's a question of "taste" that creates alcoholics.

Nor is the the taste of burgers that creates gluttons.

Rather it speaks more of a lack of temperance and self control.

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I googled it once this year...and learned that we spend in the excess of 47 Billion per year on alcoholic beverages in the US..I suppose mostly on Saturday nights and then again on Sunday Football games times...:foottap

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Jesus and Wine

http://www.learnthebible.org/jesus-and-wine.html

I agree with that article.

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Amazing isn't it?

Equally shocking is the 110 Billion $$ figure we spend on fast food! This, at a time when the negative effects of obesity has surpassed those of drinking alcohol.

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They drank wine in the bible, doesn't fit somes theology so they try to make it watered down nonalcohol but obviously what they drank could get one drunk, why else would Paul admonish church to not drink in excesss?

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TS, I think Kclee is interested in knowing how we "feel" and practice alcohol consumption. Not whether the Bible permits it or whether they even had fermented wine in the New Testament.

Years ago, it was a more common argument to say there was "good wine" and "bad wine" - meaning nonalcoholic and alcoholic. But I think those taking this position are few and far between today. The irony is, the "good wine" likely had higher alcohol content than other wine.

New Living Translation (©2007)
"A host always serves the best wine first," he said. "Then, when everyone has had a lot to drink, he brings out the less expensive wine. But you have kept the best until now!"

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Oh, well excuse me for going bible. Lol :heeheehee. Your right though.

We drink wine occasionally on anniversary. Doesn't make me want to hit the bars.

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a little dap on a gauze is good enough for me

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I only use whisky, lemon juice and peppermint oil to treat severe colds & croup symptoms. There's less alcohol in it than a dose of nyquil, and it works much better.

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I just buy the stuff sold in the fanciest bottles. Oh yes, and Budlight Lime. I ONLY drink it on rare occasions, such as during a football game or while eating at a BBQ joint, and cook with it quite a bit as well(brats).

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None, alcohol and I are not good friends.

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I dis agree about the hamburgers...Stay away from em...they taste good..
they are full of the wrong ingredients..Fats...

All the good foods are in the produce section of your grocers store..all the bad foods are filled with sugar salts and preservatives designed not intentionally to enlarge your waist line..the best meats are frozen or fresh ..:foottap

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Yes we need A good :smack for sure..How did we get so big????

fast food...no doubt...

:foottap


I had a basketball for a stomach a few years back...without exercise I lost it all by eating fruits and nuts.. and one real meal a day..:highfive

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I do not drink at all and have no desire or intention on ever doing so. What i have come to realize is that there are cultures where people drink regularly yet it is unacceptable to become intoxicated. In those cultures they have little problems with alcohol. It is obvious that alcohol is a big problem in the US. Therefore, to avoid any association with the wickedness of this age, i avoid alcohol.

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My wife went on youth mission trip to Brazil when she was a teen. The youth group hosting them actually brought out wine during one of their lunches at which point the American pastor in charge made a big show about how "HIS youth would not partake!". The point is is that it was not even an issue down there yet a heaven and hell one up here.

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Never drank it and never will. I was born and raised in a Sanctified Holiness Church!
I never touched a cigarette either, Thank the Lord!

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Bingo. I think I started a thread to this effect a couple months ago.

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Wise man :)

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I grew up with Catholic parents, from the time I was 12 or so we had a little glass or wine or champange, or maybe creme de menth (not sure how to spell it) on special occaisons. Kinda of a family tradition,.