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Yesterday while leaving to work in the early AM, I found Christian CD's laying on my lawn. I played one in the car while driving, I started feeling carnal just listening to it!

There's something about music that transforms me, usually the beat. When someone is playing secular music and I can hear it, it trys getting hold of me, and I start getting carnal thoughts. But when I hear godly music (all I listen to is black gospel) I start moving in the Spirit!

Christian rap music is junk!
Christian Rock music is junk!
R&B Christian music is junk!

Did I leave something out?

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You need to listen to Christian music from the 80's! Nearly all Christian music is atrocious in my very humble opinion. It often tries to copy another form of music but is never as good as the original. A "Christian version" of anything is nearly always a mediocre watered down substitute. It is when it stands on its OWN that it actually is worth listening, watching, or reading.

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How many red lights did you run???? That's what I use to do when I lived in the city. I would get so carried away in the spirit the next thing I knew I was at my destination and then I stopped and wondered, Did I go through those lights:nod

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:thumbsup

I like the old Maranatha stuff.

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Why were there CD's lying on your lawn?

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Sigh, time to go back to music theory class people. All music can be placed in a category.
Blues, Classical, Country, Electronic, Folk, Jazz, New age, Reggae and Rock.

Each of those can be broken down into their own genres, IE Punk Rock, Death Rock, Modern Jazz, Modern Blues, etc.

Most of your "Black" Choir music is either under the Jazz or Blues section.

For someone to say that a specific type of "Christian" music is carnal is a blatant lie. Hey even your "Holy Ghost Explosion" music can be placed into a Heavy Metal / Death Rock with their 6/8 measures and fast tempos.

I will say that it is the spirit of the music that is the main focus. There have been quite a few of popular "Christian" artists that limit the "Religious Words" in their music so they can easily switch over to secular industry.

Six pence none the richer?
Katy Perry?
Chris Rice?
Amy Grant?

Just to name a few.

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I threw them out the window of my car as I was driving by because they made me feel carnal.

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:toofunny

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Yeah, and why the thread title?

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So where does Samba, Rumba, Salsa, Lambada, Merenge style music fit in to the above categories? These are all Latin dances but they all have very distinct musical styles for each one. The only semi Latin one listed is Reggae.

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I believe christain music can be "carnal", alot of this rock, rap etc.. is just brithed from not completely letting go of the world/flesh.

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There is a scene from Wayne World where Garth is imagining himself in a dentist chair getting worked on in the audience at a Kenny G concert. That is how I feel when forced to listen to the current crop of contemporary Christian music which has been around the last 15 years. It is a mixture of the most boring guitar strumming, a light drum beat, and unimaginative melodies of the worst kind.

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i like thold traditional music, dont hardly here it in church anymore.

over in the Gloryland, There is Power in the Blood, leaning on the everlasting arms,
Ive got a feelin everything is gonna be all right, Hold to Gods un changing hand.
Im gonna wear a crown, Ill fly away. and many many more.


its almost like you have to special request these songs.

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Zumba workout?

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Well, we might not hear the specific versions of the old days. But, creative worship leaders can take an old song, modernize it (especially for the younger generations), and there be a sweet presence of God just like back in the day.

For responses from others: as for worldly songs being sung in church...well, call it what you may. "You Are So Beautiful To Me" was sung accoustically on a Sunday morning after the Spirit started moving so powerfully. That song was the icing on the cake for me that day; after all, God is beautiful, everything I hoped for, and everything I need...

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I am a little concerned about the Second Commandment, here. But I didn't want to get all preachy and stuff.

Amen

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Yep

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Can someone explain what "feeling carnal" is?

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Feelin' like Prax? Feelin' like answering Prax?

I dunno... if a song fills me with lust and wild passionate desire... I guess that's carnal?

Except at my age that really wouldn't be a bad thing and might save a visit to the pharmacist. Or, perhaps the song makes me want to eat a 2500 calorie meal after church ... would that be carnal?

What if the song made me feel like I was THE prophet of God for this hour and that everyone I came across in church needed to be scolded with my stern and anointed condemnations? Would that be carnal?

What if the song made me to maliciously suspect that the UPC's Foreign Missions division was a bloated plutocracy and that MY money was too holy to send into HQ? Is that a "carnal feeling?"

What if I just kept all of the money coming in - because the song made me feel that way - and when a neighbor pastor came by and saw no Partners In Missions plaques on my prayer room walls, the song then made me feel that I needed to tell some sort of story that made it look like I supported missions when I really didn't, so I just blamed the FM division for "taking too much" and I assured the visitor that, "Yes, I support the missionaries directly on my own..." but I really kept all of the money?

Those kinds of songs are just plain carnal.

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Wow. This thread is TOO FUNNY!:heeheehee

People that slam standards are now setting a "standard" in regards to what music is carnal and what music is spiritual? And you are doing that based on your "personal" preferences and/or "feelings"?

LOL! Thats funny!

As a youth pastor of 20+ years, I can tell you that you need to do some homework before you start passing judgement on "contemporary" christian music while you sit around enjoying your country, southern, blues, jazz, easy listening, easy rock and other so called "acceptable" styles of music.

Thanks for amusing me this morning...putting earbuds in my ears for Chris Tomlin, Toby Mac, Newsboys and more...:happydance

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Why was Lucifer kicked out of heaven? and what is he doing here on earth? Could it be that he was turned loose to "deceive the nations" for a short time! Deception is when we think we are right, when we are wrong. When we are not able to discern between righteosness or unrighteousness.

Every time we make a choice regarding life, right or wrong choice. I believe we are being judged as we live. GOD has set HIS Throne in the heavens, and
he is setting high and lifted up. HE can see all that is going on here on earth as it turns on its axis.

The choice we make, right or left,, tell which side we are on. This is not for offense but to provoke thought. "How shall we then live". Right or unrighteous!
I am NOT the judge. Not my place! GOD IS THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGE. HE JUDGES RIGHTEOUSLY!

And we wonder why there are divisions, even in the church. Choices are what divide us. That is why we must look unto JESUS, the Author and the Finisher of our faith. Seek Him for the answers. HE IS THE WONDERFUL COUNSELLOR.

GOD didn't send JESUS to CONDEMN, but that in and through him, mankind could be saved. Christ IN you, the Hope of Glory, CONVICTS tenderly and lovingly.

Falla39

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:thumbsup:thumbsup

How about Mandisa's "Stronger?" Forget the earbuds, just let me crank that one up on the stero... :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY2Hdh7cvA

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If you want to avoid carnality, avoid this song like the plague!

Conan Obrien. "Thursday"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAFau7OGS1U

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RandyWayne! Come on... I prayed all the way through that thing..... that he'd hurry up and get through it! Thanks for encouraging my "prayer time!" :heeheehee

Been Thinkin

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Earbuds are for at work. Can't listen any other way.

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Ahh, gotcha. Well, then in that case, enjoy thru the earbuds...

And, I must correct my typo above. *stero = stereo.

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Ya, it is the type of "melody" that will invade your fever dreams at night.

Sort of like half of the current crop of contemporary Christian swill that is out there.

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I am not a fan of "Gospel Hip Hop" because I believe that hiphop is a culture and lifestyle bigger than just rap music. It was designed to be a way of living and thinking. Rap music is a genre embraced by those is the culture. The comparison I like to use is comparing the hip hop movement to the hippie movement.

That being said, I'm not really sure anymore that the art of rapping (talking to music) is inherently bad. I've actually heard Christian rappers who reject the hip hop culture and what it represents and deliver a message more forthright than many of the regular christian songs I hear.

For example here are some lyrics by an artist called Lecrae: (Some of you may have to get out your urban dictionary) LOL. Seriously just give it a chance.



Yeah, I got a question, after the show, after the set, after the music stops, what's next? Are we just writing songs or are we concerned with uniting people to follow the great commission of Christ.
Yeah let's get it, let's go...

Back in the day I was a lunch line rapper, after that I guess I was a punch line rapper, then I got saved and sometime after, ya boy came back as a frontline rapper, and when I say the frontlines, that's not a frontline, I'm out here preachin' Christ on the frontlines, and no it ain't about rockin' stages 'coz some of my engagements are out on the pavements yeah.
I'm out to take the bible, create disciples, who make disciples, disciple-cycles, that's why I want the beats to knock so after the music stops you can meet the Rock. I pray that you would know him well, this is like show and tell, it's more than a show, I'm showing you Emmanuel,
So yeah I'm hopin' that you're likin' the flow but it's only so you could know that God I'm writing it for. Let's go...

After the show, after the set, after the music stops what's next?
Will there be fellowship, prayer, disciples, will you open your bibles after the music stops.
After it's over, after it ends, after the music stops, what then?
Will you understand that Christ is King? Or will you just like the words we sing after the music stops.

I recorded a couple songs some fast some slow, so the listeners would know the importance of the show, the importance of the show's not to excite these folks but make God's truth relevant, ignite these folks.
Discipleship is our call but we make disciples, this is not a suggestion, create disciples. The teachin' is a process, it's not over night and it's not a stage and a mic nah, it's life on life Christ -
Walked with twelve, ate with twelve, talked with twelve, shaped the twelve, invested in 'em well you could say that he made the twelve. Who made many more, who made plenty more, now it's on you and me if there's anymore.
1 teach, 2 teach, 3 teach, 4 teach, 5 teach, 6 teach, 7 teach more, this is what we've been commissioned, it's the reason why I write, so that you could hear the truth, not so you can say I'm tight whoa...

After the show, after the set, after the music stops what's next?
Will there be fellowship, prayer, disciples, will you open your bibles after the music stops.
After it's over, after it ends, after the music stops, what then?
Will you understand that Christ is King? Or will you just like the words we sing after the music stops.

So, we write this for the right the speaker was righteous, and then we might check for a culture who likes the hypeness. Some say we keep it crunk, some say we hype man; we just wanna pump the resurrection of the Christ man.
We in the -burbs and the hoods that's hostile, we share a common view like synoptic Gospels and you know we keep a couple young dudes around us and teach 'em the same truth God used to ground us.
This is a lifestyle so, when the mic's down I pray people follow Christ when they turn the lights down. I pray that everybody playin' this song will be challenged by everything I had to say in this song.
I don't do this for the money, I don't do this for fame, I don't do this so the industry can know my name, I do this and host to glorify Yeshua the King, if you're feelin' me you know you should be doin' the same let's go...

After the show, after the set, after the music stops what's next?
Will there be fellowship, prayer, disciples, will you open your bibles after the music stops.
After it's over, after it ends, after the music stops, what then?
Will you understand that Christ is King? Or will you just like the words we sing after the music stops.

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As my youth group would say... WHATEVER! And I agree with them. :spit

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The opposite of being spiritual. You know what that is, yes? When I say that I began feeling carnal, the desires of my flesh began twitching and unwholesome thoughts began to flood my mind. Probably that same feeling of defilement that people feel after watching pornography and try justifying the reason. And no, I don't watch pornaghraphy, but for some reason I felt like typing that in.

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Yeah, well your youth probably lead you anyway.

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Glad I could make you laugh, just as those wannabe Christian singers make me laugh with their stupidity. "Well, we can't make it out in the secular industry, so we'll just sing about Christianity."

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Often the problem I see in threads like this, and especially the responses is that they are usually biased to say the least.

I know the bible says to walk in the Spirit and we will not fulfill the lust of the flesh, and we know what the works of the flesh are. Having said that, being human is how God made us. There are some beutiful expressions given in songs that talk about love (not fornication etc.), and there are also some moving songs that deal with real life issues that are inspiring.

The other issue is, if you know anything about music, most fills, licks, and chops are used in a variety of genre's, so it is virtually impossible to always lay claim to a certain sound..it is content and motive that makes the difference, as with many other things.

I have known many "Super Spiritual" folks that simply refuse to listen to anything that did not talk about God, or did not have something about Jesus in it...to me it is absurd - God can still be God while I dance to a romatic tune with my wife. Some folks can't discern the differnece between being a christian and living at the church.

While the spirit of Christ should dominate our lives, everything in life is not spiritual, and folks who spiritualize everything are no better then the folks who are carnal about everything.

On a side note..I believe in having standards...but the funny thing is, the folks who really care about and focus so much on a "standard" are usually church folk who focus on standards...many other christian groups could care less...just sayin'

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After 20 + years of youth ministry...I think not. I left the "wet behind the ears" stage many years ago.

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Let me guess. You only listen to music performed by certified christian singers that meet your definition of christian?

Does that include Christmas music? Or is Elvis perfectly acceptable once a year?

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I guess I can't relate. I never heard any Christian song that made me want to go have sex.

But what power we might have over someone...all we have to do is clap our hands in a certain beat and that persons hormones begin to rage out of control? His or her mind is instantly filled with lustful thoughts and now he is one small step from the pits of hell. Something ain't right:naughty

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I don't have that problem with just hearing the music. It's the words that bother me which is why Christian music does not bother me.

Not all non-christian music bothers me either. It's usually specific ones that are singing about specific stuff.

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This should be nominated for post of the month!!