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Just curious. Since DKB still pastors his church in TX (correct me if I'm wrong), who pays for all of the plane tickets back and forth between St. Louis and Austin?

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He doesnt Rodney Shaw is pastor.

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Yup. You're wrong.

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That was easy.

NEXT!

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ha, I wasn't sure. Ok thanks...

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fastest we have ever settled an issue on AFF...ha...

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bahahaha

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Unitedairlinespraise,

It is a rule that a GS cannot pastor.

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CeeCee, I am Not so sure that is true! Functionally GS is considered a full-time job- yes. But I'm not privy to any rule. I think DKB remained Pastor for the fist six months or so of being GS... Something about their building program.

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I know you have UPC connections so check it out. I am almost positive that this was discussed a couple of years ago on the forum and it was found that some years ago that was made a requirement for being GS. That became part of the discussion about whether or not AM would be willing to become GS before his already declared retirement age and hand over to his designated successor.

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so DKB is GS of the UPC now? did the other guy die or something? It's amazing im finally learning the acronyms lol

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other guy did not get re-elected because he is to liberal

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all the liberals need to pop out so we can get some facial hair back in the pull pit, and let men look like me again.

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DKB removed the ban, but the constituents continue to dance around the golden calf.

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Brother bernard removed the ban of facial hair?

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There never was a constituent ban.

There had been a restriction of no facial hair on the platform at General Conference... I think that is removed. It was a board decision though, not an arbitrary one by DKB.

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pastors still openly state they will not allow a man with facial hair behind their pullpit... My church is one of them

when we had a area conference last year, my pastor asked me to shave it cause it is not looked upon nicely by other men.

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I'll tell you, for some the beard thing was real big. Several years ago I saw a quite heavily bearded man at men's conference. A lot of folks were giving him sideways glances as he worshipped with the rest of us. I found myself close to him and introduced myself. We talked a bit (he was visiting with a pastor friend) and I mentioned he looked good in his Kenny Rodgers style beard. I told him I had one for several years and still grow one from time to time.


About 20 minutes later the pastor friend he came with asked me to step outside... Apparently, the breaded brother mentioned that I said "something" about his beard. This pastor assumed it was NEGATIVE - and rightly so I guess, from all the looks the guy was getting. He got quite angry and gave me the 'what for" concerning my treatment of bearded folk, saying "I know he is not like us, but the Lord is working on him!"

Finally, when I got an word in edgewise I assured him I was totally pro-beard, and intentionally said nice things to the man about the same, because it was obvious most people were treating him like he had no right to worship with hair on his face.

The pastor was very confused for a minute - like "how could I have been so wrong?" I assured him he was wrong and we could ask his friend if that was necessary... At that point he gave me a big hug and apologized!

Just saying how messed up the thinking was (and still is to some extent).

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I know you are right, and my pastor does similar... not an absolute ban, but "we don't want to offend other churches".

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if facial hair offends people, i wonder what happends to them in the presence of sin.......:spit

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Ah, man you just had to stir it up - thought this was gonna be an AFF record for the shortest thread.

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They blush. Visibly, with no hair to hide it.

Religious traditions are harder to break than a caffeine habit. Trust me, I have had to bust them both a few times!:happydance

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Have had a beard, not had one, and am growing one again. Nothing unbiblical about it. Such religious spirits are of the devil to say that the natural growth of hair or the abstinence thereof is a measure of spirituality. Call me liberal if that is the case, but Jesus calls me friend.

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Awesome question!

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I saw an Easter play once, where Jesus got crucified with a beard, and when he rose from the dead he was clean shaven :heeheehee

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That is really upping the ante!

That's hilarious. ;)

Our Pastor Emeritus has been referred to on this board as The Bearded One.

Back before he had his beard - when he was my pastor, I was a junior bible quiz coach. I got some sideways looks for even a hint of a goatee while we were at a tournament. He heard complaints about it, but told me that he didn't think it was Biblical, and I didn't have to shave. I decided to shave to avoid him getting more grief, but I appreciated the gesture.

I don't mind when Pastors have that preference for their church, but if they try to call it Bible, I start losing respect and confidence in their ministry.

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Exactly. The problem is very few can articulate the position with inferring that GOD has such a preference too!

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My daughter attended an Easter play with a friend. Their Jesus had long blonde hair and a pink heart on his cheek. I don't think she stayed for the duration of the play. :heeheehee

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Sort of like telling some left wing wacho, "since you call everyone you disagree with a Nazi, what would you actually call a Nazi if you ran into one?".

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That's just like the UPC's "beardless Jesus." Everyone tries to make God in their image.

A "gay" Jesus would be the same as a "beardless Jesus." Romans 1.

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Never thought this thread would last this long. ha