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Sister Alvear 09-01-2011 10:09 PM

Your Greatest Hurt
 
Not asking details or anything like that just have noticed many have been hurt in different situations...How did you deal with your hurt?

Hoovie 09-01-2011 10:17 PM

Re: Your Greatest Hurt
 
For some people, this may reveal to much... depending on the nature of the hurt etc.

just sayin...

Hoovie 09-01-2011 10:19 PM

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Being a family guy, I would say they are the primary support group.

When it's family that hurts? Changes everything.

Arphaxad 09-01-2011 11:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1094919)
Not asking details or anything like that just have noticed many have been hurt in different situations...How did you deal with your hurt?


When I busted up my kneecap that hurt so much I didn't know wether to laugh or cry, so I did both at the same time.

:doggyrun

Sister Alvear 09-01-2011 11:12 PM

Re: Your Greatest Hurt
 
Sometimes how we deal with hurt helps others deal with their hurts. While we do not have to reveal anything we can share scriptures and other things that have helped us.

RandyWayne 09-02-2011 12:04 AM

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"I need my pain."

Amanah 09-02-2011 12:40 AM

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My greatest hurt was when I lost my son, my only child in a motorcycle accident.

The way I got thru it was by resolutely committing myself to being disciplined in bible reading, prayer, and going to church even though I felt that God had abandoned me.

I told God that even though I did not feel close to him, and I blamed him for allowing this in my life, I also knew that he was God, and there was no one else I could turn to.

I told him that I would walk by faith putting one foot in front of the other day by day until I could find my way back to a close relationship with him again.

This November 15th will be the 3rd anniversary of Jason’s death.

I am irreparably damaged, but my relationship with God is steady and sure and at times a great comfort to me.

For you see, this is the common condition of humanity, pain, suffering, and eventually the loss of all we hold dear in this world.

In the end it all comes down to you and God and there is nothing else.

houston 09-02-2011 12:43 AM

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thought i was over my greatest hurt. apparently not. jack daniel has been helping me get through it lately.

Sarah 09-02-2011 05:39 AM

Re: Your Greatest Hurt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1094948)
My greatest hurt was when I lost my son, my only child in a motorcycle accident.

The way I got thru it was by resolutely committing myself to being disciplined in bible reading, prayer, and going to church even though I felt that God had abandoned me.

I told God that even though I did not feel close to him, and I blamed him for allowing this in my life, I also knew that he was God, and there was no one else I could turn to.

I told him that I would walk by faith putting one foot in front of the other day by day until I could find my way back to a close relationship with him again.

This November 15th will be the 3rd anniversary of Jason’s death.

I am irreparably damaged, but my relationship with God is steady and sure and at times a great comfort to me.

For you see, this is the common condition of humanity, pain, suffering, and eventually the loss of all we hold dear in this world.

In the end it all comes down to you and God and there is nothing else.

Oh Amanah....how my heart goes out to you! We too, lost a son, but it wasn't our only child. If it hasn't even been three years yet, you're still going through the 'fog'....that's the way I describe it, and I'm sure you know what I mean.

I've often said that I don't know how anyone can suffer a loss like that, and come out whole, if they don't know the Lord. Sometimes you just know in your heart that God is there, and cares, even when you don't feel a thing.

You are in my prayers and thoughts....

Amanah 09-02-2011 06:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 1094954)
Oh Amanah....how my heart goes out to you! We too, lost a son, but it wasn't our only child. If it hasn't even been three years yet, you're still going through the 'fog'....that's the way I describe it, and I'm sure you know what I mean.

I've often said that I don't know how anyone can suffer a loss like that, and come out whole, if they don't know the Lord. Sometimes you just know in your heart that God is there, and cares, even when you don't feel a thing.

You are in my prayers and thoughts....

thank you Sarah . . . that is one of the purposes of suffering, to be able to minister to others because you know what they are going through.

Amanah 09-02-2011 06:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1094949)
thought i was over my greatest hurt. apparently not. jack daniel has been helping me get through it lately.

I will be praying for you Houston

Hoovie 09-02-2011 07:20 AM

Re: Your Greatest Hurt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1094948)
My greatest hurt was when I lost my son, my only child in a motorcycle accident.

The way I got thru it was by resolutely committing myself to being disciplined in bible reading, prayer, and going to church even though I felt that God had abandoned me.

I told God that even though I did not feel close to him, and I blamed him for allowing this in my life, I also knew that he was God, and there was no one else I could turn to.

I told him that I would walk by faith putting one foot in front of the other day by day until I could find my way back to a close relationship with him again.

This November 15th will be the 3rd anniversary of Jason’s death.

I am irreparably damaged, but my relationship with God is steady and sure and at times a great comfort to me.

For you see, this is the common condition of humanity, pain, suffering, and eventually the loss of all we hold dear in this world.

In the end it all comes down to you and God and there is nothing else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 1094954)
Oh Amanah....how my heart goes out to you! We too, lost a son, but it wasn't our only child. If it hasn't even been three years yet, you're still going through the 'fog'....that's the way I describe it, and I'm sure you know what I mean.

I've often said that I don't know how anyone can suffer a loss like that, and come out whole, if they don't know the Lord. Sometimes you just know in your heart that God is there, and cares, even when you don't feel a thing.

You are in my prayers and thoughts....

I am so sorry, and offer prayers for both of you.

Amanah 09-02-2011 07:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1094972)
I am so sorry, and offer prayers for both of you.

thank you, that means a lot to me :)

Sister Alvear 09-02-2011 08:03 AM

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praying for you...What an awesome route you chose...

pelathais 09-02-2011 08:28 AM

Re: Your Greatest Hurt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1094949)
thought i was over my greatest hurt. apparently not. jack daniel has been helping me get through it lately.

You really need to tell us when you're joking.

Adam 09-02-2011 08:38 AM

Re: Your Greatest Hurt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1094919)
Not asking details or anything like that just have noticed many have been hurt in different situations...How did you deal with your hurt?

When we look at the NT during the time of Jesus' ministry, what is the greatest hurt that was experienced by those who followed and/or knew him? My answer would be the death of Lazarus. Jesus wept. The only time mentioned he wept. So, I believe that the death of a loved one would be at the top of the list for just about anybody. The answer that immediately popped in my head was the death of my father when I was 12 years old. I was fatherless and no one, and I mean no one, that was a Christian in my extended family came to my aid. I'm over that now, but I will always remember that.

Jacob's Ladder 09-02-2011 10:31 AM

Re: Your Greatest Hurt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1094919)
Not asking details or anything like that just have noticed many have been hurt in different situations...How did you deal with your hurt?





I’ve forgiven him, but I remember every now and then. During my teenage years God began opening various doors in my life, spiritual doors if you will. I still remember the first time God spoke directly to me as a teenager. While in my teenage years I struggled with depression, anxiety and panic attacks. I was prescribed certain medications such as Xanax and Lorazapam, anti-anxiety medications. After the former pastor in the city I reside in passed away, his son-in-law resumed pastor-ship within that church. For the record, he’s still the current pastor there, and he was and is a good man.

When I struggled with these anxiety episodes, he and his wife were always helpful to their best ability. He also knew I had begun taking these medications. Well, God had begun speaking prior to the meds. I myself had no mentor per-se, so I sought the pastor’s counsel. I remember telling the pastor I had a few visions, and God had begun speaking to me and showing me people's circumstances, and these people confessed what God had showed me to be true. Well, I explained this to my pastor at that time and petitioned for his help to grow in these spiritual arenas the Lord has placed me in. The pastor then asked me, “have you been taking your medications?” I became really hurt and never sought his counsel again. How could medications substitute a sovereign work of God? I couldn’t understand how he could have implicated that.

Eventually a few years later I left this church for personal reasons. I have no grudge against this pastor, he’s a good man. I actually saw him this year, shook his hand and chatted with him for a while.

I’ve really never had a mentor per-se to this day, basically God has taught me. I’ve always desired a mentor who’s utilized in the same capacities, to actually seek his/her advice. Sure, there’s no better teacher than God, but sometimes you need an actual person to relate with.

Pastors, if you’re reading this post, don’t ever exclude anyone because of their age, gender, or temporary handicap.
Help them grow, it’s your duty. If you can’t help in a certain spiritual arenas, call someone who can help your congregant. This isn’t about who’s greater than who, it’s about the both of you impacting the kingdom of God, together!

I spoke at a church a few years ago about unity. Not everyone is an arm, leg, finger, etc. You must function in unity as a body. God will not put babies in a dying mother’s womb! The mother must be in perfect health to travail! And so must the church of God.

Also, God healed me from those cursed panic and anxiety attacks years ago. What medication and doctors couldn’t do, God did in 5 seconds.

mfblume 09-02-2011 10:40 AM

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I went through a solid year in ministry where I experienced abuse as a pastor from a congregation. My hurt was completely dealt with by going to God, since I had no one else in the world to go to. Wow. Did God ever move. :thumbsup People talk about pastors abusing saints, but never stop to think sometimes pastors are abused by saints, too. I prayed about situations and saw prayers answered the VERY NEXT DAY, over and over again! People would come and make it right. What a time we had that year. I hope I never go through that kind of ordeal again.

Amanah 09-02-2011 10:45 AM

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JL

Your post reminded me of something that I experienced. Sometimes well meaning Christians can unwittingly be unwise. There was a young woman who I was teaching bible studies to who had, in the past tried to commit suicide and had a drinking problem.

One night I was at her apartment and was going to give her a ride to church. She told me that she needed to go to an AA meeting. I told her she didnt need AA, just needed to come to church, she had the HG and that was all she needed. She followed my advice and fell off the wagon.

The next time I came to pick her up for church she was dead drunk. I took her to church and we went to the altar and prayed. Never saw her after that. I know that God can fix people "right now." But it doesnt always work that way. Maybe I should have encouraged her to stay in AA. Maybe I didn't give her the right advice. I meant to help her, but somehow it didn't work the way I wanted it to.

It's good that you forgave your former Pastor, I'm betting he meant well, but even Pastors are only human and can fail us.

Adam 09-02-2011 10:58 AM

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Interesting discussion, JL & Amanah. For me personally, I have attended church off and on since I was a kid, first a bus kid to a huge new church in our hometown (I don't remember the denom, but it's where I first talked to God "Hey, God, it's me Adam."), then my mom took me to the Episcopal church in another town, then finally, I went with my gf & now wife to her Apostolic church, which I no longer attend for personal reasons. In all those situations, I received the most guidance from the Episcopal church, actually one-on-one directly from the Priest during my confirmation preparation. The Apostolic church experience was always just show up, pay your money, hear the pastor speak, and go home, the end. It was such a shallow experience, I eventually gave up entirely on church and God. Now, I do everything myself, read the word, apply the word, pray, talk with people I know, etc. A church building filled with strangers I never grew up with, a pastor that pretty much just puts on a performance and then won't spend time with me personally, etc. is something I can do without.

Amanah 09-02-2011 11:11 AM

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Adam -

You are right, if you don't make connections in the church you are attending, the experience can be shallow.

I wonder if you got to know some of the church people outside of the church building setting and could make friendships with people if that would make a difference, maybe go to lunch with another couple from the church?

People need more then just a church service, they need a relationship with other people.

Margies3 09-02-2011 01:42 PM

Re: Your Greatest Hurt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1095017)
Adam -

You are right, if you don't make connections in the church you are attending, the experience can be shallow.

I wonder if you got to know some of the church people outside of the church building setting and could make friendships with people if that would make a difference, maybe go to lunch with another couple from the church?

People need more then just a church service, they need a relationship with other peopl
e.

So true. I think maybe that's part of the reason this forum has survived as well as we have. We are not here to take the place of anyone's home church. We if we are honest, we all need to be in relationship with fellow believers. This has been a wonderful avenue for that to happen for many here. :thumbsup

Angel48 11-16-2011 04:03 AM

The hurt is constant. It's a living hell, most every day, and can only imagine death would be a relief. If there is a God, he sees the need for me to be miserable, to feel pain and loss in everything.
Obviously , it's going to be a bad day... Wish I knew how to work thru it. Bible, church, etc.... Not helping .... Feel more forsaken than ever.

Michael The Disciple 11-16-2011 06:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel48 (Post 1113932)
The hurt is constant. It's a living hell, most every day, and can only imagine death would be a relief. If there is a God, he sees the need for me to be miserable, to feel pain and loss in everything.
Obviously , it's going to be a bad day... Wish I knew how to work thru it. Bible, church, etc.... Not helping .... Feel more forsaken than ever.

Sorry friend sounds real bad. I will pray for you today. If you think it would help to share details go ahead.

Sherri 11-16-2011 06:53 AM

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Well I was thinking about my greatest hurt in ministry, but compared to some of these stories, it was nothing. I kind of feel ashamed to even say I was hurting. God was faithful to get us through it, and everyone is friends again now - mainly because my husband refuses to hold a grudge and he knows that everything we have in ministry is God's anyway, not ours. He's taught me alot in those areas.

I will be praying for those of you who seem to be hurting right now. God is faithful, whether you can see Him right now or not.

Falla39 11-16-2011 07:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 1094954)
Oh Amanah....how my heart goes out to you! We too, lost a son, but it wasn't our only child. If it hasn't even been three years yet, you're still going through the 'fog'....that's the way I describe it, and I'm sure you know what I mean.

I've often said that I don't know how anyone can suffer a loss like that, and come out whole, if they don't know the Lord. Sometimes you just know in your heart that God is there, and cares, even when you don't feel a thing.
You are in my prayers and thoughts....

Sarah, the bolded is a profound statement! That is when we "walk by faith, and not by sight" or feeling. Perhaps that's when HE is carrying us!

After we lost our daughter, I just couldn't seem to get anywhere, until I got to the point of desperation. I told God, "LORD, if You will give me peace of mind, one day at a time, I will not question, but I will trust!". I may never understand, but I will trust You! HE did and I still do! I still trust You, LORD!

http://youtu.be/kzzyj0U1q-8

Falla39

Aquila 11-16-2011 07:26 AM

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I feel like I was hurt by the church.
I've had to forgive (a struggle sometimes) and seek the Lord alone.

My wife of 12 years walking out on me to live her life her way, without God (also hurt by the church). I've had to try to forgive her and simply move on.

Amanah 11-16-2011 07:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel48 (Post 1113932)
The hurt is constant. It's a living hell, most every day, and can only imagine death would be a relief. If there is a God, he sees the need for me to be miserable, to feel pain and loss in everything.
Obviously , it's going to be a bad day... Wish I knew how to work thru it. Bible, church, etc.... Not helping .... Feel more forsaken than ever.

Angel, when we hurt so bad that we can't go on and we feel God forsaken, that is when we are walking by faith. I've got my arms around you in prayer today sweet Sister.

Jesus knows what it is like to feel despised, rejected, bruised, spit upon and God forsaken. . .He experienced all that and then death, hell, and the grave. Just remember that after the dark night of the soul, there is a dawn coming.

Scott Hutchinson 11-16-2011 07:51 AM

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I've had several hurts lately,but I take it to The Lord and ask Him to heal me and help me not to be bitter and to have a right Spirit.

Scott Hutchinson 11-16-2011 07:56 AM

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One thing lately that me wounded was when I recently got another job after out of work for a long period was that I trying very hard to learn something new and the supervisor telling me I was clueless and riding me and telling something was wrong with me and why couldn't I learn quicker,and then he let me go after a short while and being out of work again it is a hard pill to swallow.

Cindy 11-16-2011 08:16 AM

Re: Your Greatest Hurt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1094943)
Sometimes how we deal with hurt helps others deal with their hurts. While we do not have to reveal anything we can share scriptures and other things that have helped us.

Will not go into details but I was deeply hurt by someone I never would have thought would hurt me. I finally realized after much thought, and I have mentioned it more than once here and on Facebook: People will let you down, but Jesus, always, ALWAYS, lifts you UP. He IS my ROCK.

Cindy 11-16-2011 08:19 AM

Re: Your Greatest Hurt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1094948)
My greatest hurt was when I lost my son, my only child in a motorcycle accident.

The way I got thru it was by resolutely committing myself to being disciplined in bible reading, prayer, and going to church even though I felt that God had abandoned me.

I told God that even though I did not feel close to him, and I blamed him for allowing this in my life, I also knew that he was God, and there was no one else I could turn to.

I told him that I would walk by faith putting one foot in front of the other day by day until I could find my way back to a close relationship with him again.

This November 15th will be the 3rd anniversary of Jason’s death.

I am irreparably damaged, but my relationship with God is steady and sure and at times a great comfort to me.

For you see, this is the common condition of humanity, pain, suffering, and eventually the loss of all we hold dear in this world.

In the end it all comes down to you and God and there is nothing else.

I have lost 3 of my children, and the pain never really goes away. Some times are worse than others. I turn to God, family, and friends. And the one assurance that we have is we will be with them again someday.

Cindy 11-16-2011 08:21 AM

Re: Your Greatest Hurt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1094949)
thought i was over my greatest hurt. apparently not. jack daniel has been helping me get through it lately.

Sorry you are hurting, will be praying for you.

Amanah 11-16-2011 08:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1113971)
I have lost 3 of my children, and the pain never really goes away. Some times are worse than others. I turn to God, family, and friends. And the one assurance that we have is we will be with them again someday.

bless you Cindy, only someone who has been through this kind of loss can understand

Cindy 11-16-2011 08:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 1094954)
Oh Amanah....how my heart goes out to you! We too, lost a son, but it wasn't our only child. If it hasn't even been three years yet, you're still going through the 'fog'....that's the way I describe it, and I'm sure you know what I mean.

I've often said that I don't know how anyone can suffer a loss like that, and come out whole, if they don't know the Lord. Sometimes you just know in your heart that God is there, and cares, even when you don't feel a thing.

You are in my prayers and thoughts....

Praying for you.

Timmy 11-16-2011 08:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 1094981)
You really need to tell us when you're joking.

If he's joking.

Cindy 11-16-2011 08:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1113973)
bless you Cindy, only someone who has been through this kind of loss can understand

Yes, we have several members that have lost children. It seems backwards, but it happens. Sharing seems to lessen the pain somewhat. It has been a lot of years for me, but it still lingers. But we have the Blessed HOPE.

I can't imagine people without God going through this kind of pain. That makes my heart hurt, too.

Cindy 11-16-2011 08:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 1094984)
When we look at the NT during the time of Jesus' ministry, what is the greatest hurt that was experienced by those who followed and/or knew him? My answer would be the death of Lazarus. Jesus wept. The only time mentioned he wept. So, I believe that the death of a loved one would be at the top of the list for just about anybody. The answer that immediately popped in my head was the death of my father when I was 12 years old. I was fatherless and no one, and I mean no one, that was a Christian in my extended family came to my aid. I'm over that now, but I will always remember that.

Wow, I know that must have been tough. I had a lot of support when I lost my Mom at a young age. I can't imagine not having that. Sorry you went through that, really can't excuse some people. I think that would be a greater hurt, no one claiming Christ showing any support or comfort. And I don't mean just words, but actions.

Cindy 11-16-2011 08:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder (Post 1095003)
I’ve forgiven him, but I remember every now and then. During my teenage years God began opening various doors in my life, spiritual doors if you will. I still remember the first time God spoke directly to me as a teenager. While in my teenage years I struggled with depression, anxiety and panic attacks. I was prescribed certain medications such as Xanax and Lorazapam, anti-anxiety medications. After the former pastor in the city I reside in passed away, his son-in-law resumed pastor-ship within that church. For the record, he’s still the current pastor there, and he was and is a good man.

When I struggled with these anxiety episodes, he and his wife were always helpful to their best ability. He also knew I had begun taking these medications. Well, God had begun speaking prior to the meds. I myself had no mentor per-se, so I sought the pastor’s counsel. I remember telling the pastor I had a few visions, and God had begun speaking to me and showing me people's circumstances, and these people confessed what God had showed me to be true. Well, I explained this to my pastor at that time and petitioned for his help to grow in these spiritual arenas the Lord has placed me in. The pastor then asked me, “have you been taking your medications?” I became really hurt and never sought his counsel again. How could medications substitute a sovereign work of God? I couldn’t understand how he could have implicated that.

Eventually a few years later I left this church for personal reasons. I have no grudge against this pastor, he’s a good man. I actually saw him this year, shook his hand and chatted with him for a while.

I’ve really never had a mentor per-se to this day, basically God has taught me. I’ve always desired a mentor who’s utilized in the same capacities, to actually seek his/her advice. Sure, there’s no better teacher than God, but sometimes you need an actual person to relate with.

Pastors, if you’re reading this post, don’t ever exclude anyone because of their age, gender, or temporary handicap.
Help them grow, it’s your duty. If you can’t help in a certain spiritual arenas, call someone who can help your congregant. This isn’t about who’s greater than who, it’s about the both of you impacting the kingdom of God, together!

I spoke at a church a few years ago about unity. Not everyone is an arm, leg, finger, etc. You must function in unity as a body. God will not put babies in a dying mother’s womb! The mother must be in perfect health to travail! And so must the church of God.

Also, God healed me from those cursed panic and anxiety attacks years ago. What medication and doctors couldn’t do, God did in 5 seconds.


Sometimes people just don't have the right tools to help us, but we know God never fails. Praise God for healing you.

Cindy 11-16-2011 08:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1095008)
JL

Your post reminded me of something that I experienced. Sometimes well meaning Christians can unwittingly be unwise. There was a young woman who I was teaching bible studies to who had, in the past tried to commit suicide and had a drinking problem.

One night I was at her apartment and was going to give her a ride to church. She told me that she needed to go to an AA meeting. I told her she didnt need AA, just needed to come to church, she had the HG and that was all she needed. She followed my advice and fell off the wagon.

The next time I came to pick her up for church she was dead drunk. I took her to church and we went to the altar and prayed. Never saw her after that. I know that God can fix people "right now." But it doesnt always work that way. Maybe I should have encouraged her to stay in AA. Maybe I didn't give her the right advice. I meant to help her, but somehow it didn't work the way I wanted it to.

It's good that you forgave your former Pastor, I'm betting he meant well, but even Pastors are only human and can fail us.

Yes, not everyone is healed instantly and since you don't really know the outcome, maybe the seed God planted through you helped her somewhere down the road. Some people do however benefit from AA, etc.


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