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Jacob's Ladder Rant Thread - Libs, Con, Etc.
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I’ve congregated with both, liberal and ultra-conservative congregations, and I’m not ashamed to label myself a conservative. Please take into consideration that I’m not a rancid conservative, I believe in exhorting rather than commanding. I believe God must perform the sovereign transformation in someone’s life and not our commanding. I’ve seen saints chased out of churches by either “established” saints or pastors. Who needs the Devil when you have these types of people? Well, back to what originally I was going to post. I’ve been to many conferences and have heard the same theme echo throughout Pentecost. Examples: (1) Charging the Gates of Hell (2) Great Expectations (3) Whatever it Takes I’ve also heard same phrase after phrase. Examples: (1) If we could only unite (2) If we would only get closer to God (3) Revival is on the way I’ve thought to myself, my God, all these years and these guys are still, “what if,” or “if we only could,” or “revival is on the way someday.” What in God’s name has prevented the saints from uniting, drawing closer to God, or having “revival?” Excitedly the crowds yell in agreement after hearing those phrases, and yet they do nothing after the fact. I keep hearing the same tune but nobody wants to sing the song. You might as well shut up and sit down. People don’t need to be entertained, they need to be edified. If all you can do is entertain, go join a circus. Shut up and start acting on your words like the few scarce of us! |
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Second Rant:
To my liberal brethren, you’re still my brother and sister in Christ. I would to God some of you would boldly stand according to your belief. Example; I don’t believe having a mustache is a sin, never. However, I know a local leader who asked their youth to shave their mustache off due to a section meeting. I ask that you stand firm and strong, don’t waiver on your belief because of others. Don’t fulfill the role of a hypocrite, especially if you’re a leader. If something is good enough to practice hidden, you ought to be bold enough to practice it openly. To my conservative brethren, you’re still my brother and sister in Christ. I would to God that you allow Him to be the final authority in your life. While attending your services all I ever heard was sleeve and hair length, and how all the liberals are going to hell. Try preaching on evangelism, how to reach those female’s cutting their hair, or those men wearing shorts. Preach on the gifts of the Spirit, utilizing them for the building and edification of the church, for the perfecting of the saints. Not once have I seen a gift of the spirit operate in any conservative service, and I’ve been to many. |
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Conservative and Liberal Pastors. On an off note, there’s something about conservatives and gifts of the Spirit. I remember the conservative church I attended four years ago. The pastor is a good man and we still talk from time to time. I remember he began encouraging me to allow the gifts to operate through me. I never once usurped myself above him, even submitted myself. I remember God speaking to me about a man seeking the Holy Ghost. I told the pastor because I figured it would be respectful to have the pastor tell him rather than I, I didn’t want to go above the pastor. The pastor laughed at me and said, “if God wanted to tell me something, He would tell me himself.” Well I felt stupid! I then walked out and told the congregant myself, the congregant did exactly what was spoken to him and bam, he received the Holy Ghost. I remember the pastor then telling me God never goes through the “congregant, ”only through pastors. I then told him, God overlooked Eli the Priest and spoke directly to a young Samuel himself. Well, that ended the conversation. Don’t misunderstand me, a pastor must guard the congregation against those donkey-butt wannabes. Many people can get hurt if some speak “thus saith the Lord” and the Lord really isn’t saying! Get off your pinnacle and help those entrusted to you. Your calling is to SERVE, not to rule with an iron fist! Remember, the five fold consist of five roles, not ONE! |
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I'm sorry you have had a bad experience but a true conservative church has balance and seasons for all that you have accused us of preaching and not preaching...
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Why do you insist on telling me about the multiple weeks you fast? Does that make you holier than I? OK, I said it, you're super spiritual! Now go raise the dead, open blinded eyes, heal the sick, etc. All hot air and no action makes Jack a dull boy! Yes, I fast! But I don't feel the need to tell you the length of my fast(s). That's between the Lord and I. What does telling you accomplish for me? Absolutely nothing. I'll give you advice, I have no problem with that. We don't fast to be seen of men, hypocrite! No wonder you can't break through your circumstance! |
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Yet if every time they fast they call attention to it they probably are just hypocrites seeking mens praise. And no I dont tell anyone Im fasting unless there is a reason to do so. And no I have never fasted for weeks at a time. |
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In the OP church I attend now, I have never heard standards preached. And I have been going there about a year.
There is a new converts class where it may be brought up, I don't know though as I didn't go to it. I have seen the gift of tongues and interpretations several times. If other gifts have been in operation I wasn't aware, but I'd guess so. When I attend church I conform to their standards out of respect for them. I know they have standards as it is evident on the platform, although not strongly evident in the congregation as there are people who come to church wearing various garb. I know the standards regardless as I used to attend an ultracon church years ago. I wear a long, attractive skirt and top to church. When i go to work I usually wear casual clothes, pants, jeans, ect. I'm also growing my hair out, but that is out of a conviction that it needs to be long. I choose to go there because the Spirit of God meets us very sweetly there. The Word of God is preached. And, I enjoy being there. I'm not sure if my response is appropriate to your rant, as I'm not completely sure what you are upset about. |
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Oh, as far as revival preaching. Many revivals have been born from people meeting regularly for prayer. Prayer and fasting and bible reading are tools for preparing the heart for faith, and for a person to be used by the Spirit of God. A person marked by prayer and fasting will carry the presence of God with them in such a way that people will be receptive to want God wants to do in their lives.
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I'm betting that probably the greatest thing we could do is put down our sectarian/denominational differences and bitterness and begin to seek the face of God, and pray for his kingdom to come and his will to be done on this earth, for our generation.
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JL, I agree with your rants. I've "been there, done that" from a congregational standpoint. Where I used to attend, it was as if the doctrine of standards/appearance was preached on at least once a month. Still, to this day, I can't figure out who the "spirit" was directing the pastor to preach that for. It wasn't me, and nobody else I saw appeared to have been in need of hearing such message as often as we heard it.
Revival? Oh, sure...we heard that all the time. No problem there. But, usually there was some way that the doctrine of appearance was fromulated into the revival message. Still, to this day I ask myself: is the revival preached of meant to revive the church or harvest the world? Guess it depends on the misson of the pastor and congregation. I kinda like the mission of the one I'm sitting under at the moment... |
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Fifth Rant:
I dislike when people behind me go around me, speed up and cut me off just to stop 20 feet ahead of me at a red light. Idiots! But I still love you in the Lord. |
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Sixth Rant:
So I make a u-turn and as I'm approaching a red light I see a motorcycle behind me. I see the man just staring at me, and as he pulls beside me he gives me an irate look. If I almost clipped him, that's his fault. I looked around before making a u-turn and didn't see him. It isn't my fault he chooses to rebel against a four tire vehicle and chooses two wheel transportation. You know the dangers of riding a motorcycle. Deal with it or buy a car like the rest of us! You'll be more visible in a vehicle than riding like a bat out of hell! |
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officially a blog. maybe it will be moved to that section.
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Awaiting JL's rant (or two, or three) for the day... :)
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Well, perhaps our perception is based on the Devotees to these "Conservative" sects when they come to forums like this and do nothing but talk about anyone that does not agree with them as "liberals" or "Charismatics".
Or perhaps it's the fact that their ONLY topic de jour is Standards, standards, standards....their standards YOU need to obey or be lost. Never hear about love. Never hear about grace unless it's in a negative commentary about liberals. Never hear about justification, because my experience is most have never heard about justification. It's always cutting hair, jewelry etc etc.. So where are they getting this attitude from if it's not being preached a lot at their churches? Do we ever hear "faith"? All I've ever heard was "Obey standards" and "Obey your pastor"...those are the two Pillars of Ultra Conservativeism among Oneness groups |
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Thought I would hijack your thread. This is my rant.
I don't care if Brittany Spears is a bad mom. I don't care if she is hooked on pain killers or goes to the hospital nekked or kisses Madonna. I don't even care that she lost Justin Timberlake as a boyfriend because she didn't know who Yoko Ono is. I wish I didn't know who Yoko Ono is. The fact that I know she fancies herself as a pretty sharp Haikou writer makes me want to puke! The only thing I care about Brittany Spears is that she is from Louisiana. I HATE that fact. It makes me sick to my stomach because I am from Louisiana and all we are really known for is Brittany Spears and the Jena 6. Good grief. Why can’t she be Oklahoma trailer trash? Why can’t she be from California or some other place where idiots seem to congregate? I don't care about that little trollop Lindsey Lohan. I don't care if she likes both boys and girls. I don't care if she drinks too much or takes dope. I just don't care. I can tell you I don't want my kids even knowing that there is such a thing as a Lindsey Lohan. That's for sure. I hate the fact that I know this stuff but if you turn on the radio you get stupid "news" blurbs that tell you this junk. Good grief. Fox News even tells me about these idiots. I don't care who in hollywierd is sleeping with whom. I don't care if Brangelena just adopted a kid from Outer Mongolia with 4 arms growing out of its forehead. I don't care if Sean Penn wrote some letter to God or Jesus or George Bush or the DNC. I simply don't care. ***Note to Sean**** YOUR AN ACTOR I don't care what you think about pretty much ANYTHING! Just because you have decided to take yourself seriously and wear those stupid pinhead glasses and speak with some supercilious diction doesn't mean the rest of us take you any more seriously than we do that retard SAM you played. Speaking of Sam. that was a great role. I like movies and that was a good one. So with all the advice you've been dishing out, how about you take this advice. SHUT UP AND ACT! And I don't care about Charlie Sean and that tramp ex-wife of his: what's her face? Good grief girl, you married a guy who's own father had him locked up because he was about to kill himself with drugs! He bragged about his romps with hookers and porn stars! Don't get all freaked out when he turns out to not be a nice guy! GET A LIFE AND DON'T TELL ME ABOUT IT! IDONTCARE!!!!!!!! Hey look, I like a good movie as much as the next guy. I watch a little TV from time to time. sometimes I even turn off Food Network or the History Channel and actually watch something on regular television. But I don't care what these people do in their real lives. In fact I really wish they didn't have real lives at all. We should lock them all up in jail cells and only let them out to ACT. And another thing. All you regular Jane's and Jo's out there that buy those stupid magazines dedicated to the worship of these idiots. SHAME ON YOU! You should be sent away to a deserted island and forced to live off banana's and coconut water. You people make me sick! If I never walk into a grocery store and see some stupid magazine listing which Actresses have cellulite on their butts again it will be too soon! There. I feel better. How about emailing this rant to 10 of your best friends. Finally there will be something that makes sense on the internet. |
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What's up with everyone idolizing Kim Kardashian? She's nothing but a glorified whore! My goodness! And what's up with these 10 year old girls walking the streets looking like sluts? That's why they get kidnapped, raped and killed. Officer, she's been missing for 3 hours and she's only 11 years old. But they don't tell the officer they allowed their daughter to dress like a slut right before she left. If you're not a slut, don't wear the uniform! How do you recognize a police officer in a crowd of people, by their uniform, exactly, so you shut up too! Let's see....what else.......(thinking).... |
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Hollywood, Hollywood, Hollywood...
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I'm tired of reading threads on AFF about men's and women's pants! Get over it! Men, if you want to wear dresses, wear them. Women, if you want to wear pants, wear them.
You better hope God doesn't require attire distinction between sexes, as many of us teach. Pants are pants, whether they're labeled women's or men's pants. They're still pants! Stop playing stupid. MEN, WOULD YOU WEAR DRESSES THAT WERE CLASSIFIED AS "MEN'S DRESSES," JUST AND WOMEN WEAR PANTS THAT ARE CLASSIFIED AS "WOMEN'S PANTS?" No men, you wouldn't! So shut up and stop making excuses. |
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did you read the thread, it's kind of funny . . . just saying
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LOL! and you dont think I recognized that when I wrote that? LOL! Irony is an awesome tool in comedy.... but you know I'm right anyway! ha! |
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JL, you've been quiet lately. Where are you?
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