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I am currently watching a program on MSNBC commemorating the attacks on the World trade Center towers one and two.

Several survivors stated that many people who tried to evacuate before tower two was struck were ordered back to their floors. Security guards stopped their elevator descents, and told them their tower was safe, then ordered them to return to their offices.

In fact, survivors say that the elevators were actually programmed to refuse descent. An announcement came over the building's intercom from the port authority ordering everyone back to their offices.

Now I have never been a conspiracy theorist, but I find this very, very odd. I have never heard of such a thing. Why would they care if people left?

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i have never heard that, not even from people who got out.
i just watched a few hours of it on the history channel and nothing like that was mentioned.

better believe if i wanted out of that building words to go back to the office wouldnt stop me, so i dont think that to be true, however elevators do stop working during a fire in most cases.

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To avoid stampeding, which often kills more people than the emergency in these cases of localized (which we now know was not) fires in buildings.

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I've always read literature and watched specials on 9/11 because I find it interesting (even though I was eight years old when it happened). Obviously, no one knew that there was another plane coming. The emergency responders who were focused on reaching those in the first tower feared that a mass stampede out of the second tower would impede their rescue efforts and crowd the area completely. From what I can gather, the goal was to keep the area around WTC calm and clear to allow the rescue crews to do their jobs.

Of course, we now know that tragedy struck twice when the second tower was hit as well.

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This account is 100% true and I have heard this repeated on several occasions.

We have THREE 9/11 survivors who attend our church and all THREE plainly state that they were told over the PA system that everything is alright and to return to their offices. They were told that there was nothing wrong.

The elevators in Tower 2 were operational until the 2nd plane hit. Some people were trying to use the elevators to get down, but most people who were trying to get out of Tower 2 before the 2nd plane hit were in the stairwell when the 2nd plane hit.

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It's one thing not to order evacuation -- that was a judgement call that is unfortunate in hindsight, but understandable (I suppose). But it's a whole different matter to stop people from leaving.

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I don't believe they could have stopped me from leaving the building, short of tying me down or shooting me.

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The safety protocol for the buildings were to stay in your office unless your floor was on fire and you HAD to leave and wait for the intercom service to give them directions. I heard on one of the shows I watched that the plane hitting the building knocked out the intercom service in one builiding. Because of this and not being able to see the floors that were hit some people stayed in their offices until some safety people came and told them to leave. I know you were watching about the 2nd building and I thought the show I watched was about that building too, but it might have been the other one.

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I got into the '9/11 truth' stuff a few years ago and it really opened my eyes to a lot of things. Mainly, how much our own government is so corrupted. I still to this day think there was something particularly "fishy" about the whole incident. I don't believe it was purely just a small group of Arabs solely responsible. I strongly feel they had some help from one or more people from within our own government. And, the possibility that we knew all along, and just let it happen, so we could go to war in Iraq, etc.

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My problem with believing this is the company you put yourself in, when you do believe it.

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On another forum there was someone who thought conspiracy stuff was garbage, all I ask is for people to study the evidence for themselves, here is what I replied on the other forum:

No offense intended to anyone, I know it might be hard for some people to accept at first that the mainstream media would actually lie to them, but It is so very sad indeed that people get so duped by the mainstrem media lies that they seem to ignore over 1500 professional architects and engineers who offer scientific evidence showing the official 911 story is not the whole truth, these professionals are not "fringe" people, and they are not in it for profit. Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth) is a non-profit corporation.

http://www.ae911truth.org/

Those who automatically dismiss conspiracies and instead believe what the mainstream media tells them could be easily deceived by the Antichrist system.

Those who take the time to really research the evidence will see that there IS a conspiracy to bring about a one world government, and this should be no surprise to Christians who believe Bible prophecy about the coming Antichrist one world government.

Here is a Bible study done by an apostolic minister who has been studying since the 1970's how the New World Order elite have been conspiring to bring about their ultimate agenda of a Luciferian one world government.

http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-DevilinNWO.htm

Here is an excerpt from the above study by an apostolic minister:

(quote)

At the beginning of the twentieth century, Rothschild associates Jacob Schiff, Paul Warburg, J.P. Morgan, and John D Rockefeller (as well as many others) gained positions of inestimable wealth and power in the world, and history records their roles in fomenting World Wars I and II, in establishing the Federal Reserve Bank in the United States, and central banks in major nations all over the world.

Illuminati precepts have been propagated through a spectrum of agencies over the past century. The Royal Institute of International Affairs in Britain, the Council on Foreign Relations in America, the Round Table Group in Europe, the Club of Rome, the Trilateral Commission (chaired by David Rockefeller), and the Bilderbergers (an ultra-elite club of about 120 mega-powerful individuals who meet annually), and others parrot the Luciferic scheme of New World Order.

To know them is to despise them. They are evil to the bone-marrow. They will, by design, strip the world of all freedoms of speech and religion, and impose financial and immoral sanctions on the entire global society.

As a result of their incomprehensible network of influence, the Illuminati has infiltrated virtually every Palace, every Statehouse, every Parliament, every Congress of note in the world. They have courted Kings, Presidents, Prime Ministers, Lords, Congressmen and movers and shakers from every strata of society. Through the Free and Accepted Masons, and the 32nd degreed Masters,

Luciferianism has spread into every city and hamlet of size in Western civilization.

In the United Nations, the Lucis Trust (originally the Luciferian Trust), founded by Luciferian Alice Bailey, has secured a permanent chapel for religious observance within the UN walls.

Among the most prominent globalists of our time, countless of them can be linked to Freemasonry, Adam Weishaupt, Alice Bailey, Illuminati, etc., etc.

In every presidential administration of this century, a substantial, if not majority of all members were linked to Luciferian inspired organizations. Most people seemingly do not know that politics and religion today have been carefully choreographed for centuries with an ultimate goal of world dominion in the mind of Satan and his schemers.

Is this a crazy "Conspiracy" theory, or a documented and thoroughly-provable historical agenda of power-mad people?

Admittedly, there is a rock-headed segment of society that scorns any reference to an evil conspiracy to rule the world. From so-called conservatives like Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reily, known-liberals like the Southern Poverty Law Center (scorning Patriot movements), some of the most articulate voices in America make complete mockery of anyone who declares that there is an evil conspiracy to rule the world.

New World Order is immanently more than an innocuous peace-loving international fraternity of nations. It is the very BEAST rising up out of the sea as depicted by John almost 2000 years ago in the Book of Revelation. It will indeed replace nations and nationalism with globalism and one world government BEFORE JESUS CHRIST RETURNS.

(end quote)


Also, here are links to more sites showing solid evidence the "official" story of 911 is not the whole truth:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09...-911-is-wrong/

http://www.911summary.com/

http://stj911.org/

http://www.cabaltimes.com/2011/09/11...9-11-cover-up/


　

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Before this could even begin to be discussed we would need to know what the standing policy was for the WTC. If it was to keep people on in their offices until evacuation was called for, then there is no issue.

I would also want to know where this tower dumps to? does the evacuation route take people out under the other tower where falling debris was taking place? would the Second tower ecacuees become a henderance to the firefighters trying to get control of the first tower?

In hind sight keeping these people in the second tower was the wrong decision. But we cannot use post event knowledge to make that determination.

At the time, some people were suggesting a small plan had accidentally flown into the first tower. It was not clear at the time that there was an attack in progress. Nor was there indication that a second plane was on approach to the second tower.

with that being the guiding reality, it would not have seemed prudent to dump potentially thousands of people into the chaos on the street as First Responders were just trying to gain control of the situation after the first attack, and before the second.

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At the risk of being insulting BroGary, the 9/11 truthers are a bunch of nuts. Absolute nuts.


It is not possible to keep that big of a consiracy secret. Too many AMERICANS would have to know what was about to happen and there is NO WAY you could keep that many people quiet. NO WAY.

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There is actually a law pertaining to this. I do not know the name but it states that any conspiracy or secret behind X number of people (I believe the number is 30) cannot continue beyond a certain short period of time due to peoples inability to keep secrets.

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It is amazing that people cannot grasp this simple fact. yet we play on fears and say all manner of idiocy for what reason I cannot imagine.

I guess it keeps the moonbats at infowars employed.

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Slate.com had a fantastic series on so-called 'trutherism.' I'll link to it here.

http://www.slate.com/id/2302853/

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The one world globalists at the higher levels would not want to expose it, and the lower level pawns that do know (or suspect) something are either intimidated, or somehow dealt with so they do not get to expose it on mainstream media.

No offense taken, the conspirators count on the majority of the public having such unbelief, and the fact that they control the mainstream media they make sure that anyone who WOULD expose things do not get the wide exposure the mainstream media would give them.

Please study the evidence on all the links I provided, there are over 1500 professional architects and engineers, another link has a list of many other VERY credible people who do not believe the "official" story, these are NOT "fringe" people and there is VERY solid evidence. (and one link shows that some of the people who were exposing stuff seemed to be dealt with)

The evidence on those links speak for itself, but sadly the majority of the public are too duped by the mainstream media to even consider it enough to study it for themselves.

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Study the links for yourself !

Also read the study done by an apostolic minister who shows that this globalist conspiracy is VERY real.

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If you know of anyone who doubts the the threat to America's national sovereignty by the one-world globalists, they need to read some quotes by some of the globalists themselves as well as from those who became aware of their plans.

Here are some for a start:

“The main purpose of the (CFR) is promoting the disarmament of US sovereignty and national independence and submergence into and all powerful, one world government.”
- US Navy Admiral Chester Ward

“The Council on Foreign Relations is the American branch of a society which originated in England... (and) ...believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one world rule established.”
- Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton's Georgetown mentor)

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
- Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis (when they cause WWIII) and the nations will accept the New World Order. "
- David Rockefeller

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
- David Rockefeller, Baden-Baden, Germany 1991


"We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
- Banker Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate

"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas".
- Brock Chisolm, former Director of the (WHO) World Health Organization

"Let me control a peoples currency and I care not who makes their laws."
- Meyer Nathaniel Rothschild in a speech to a gathering of world bankers February 12, 1912. (The following year, the USA subscribed to the 'services' of the newly incorporated Federal Reserve, headed by Mr. Rothschild.)

"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties."
- New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922

"The depression was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market....The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank."
- Curtis Dall, FDR's son-in-law as quoted in his book, My Exploited Father-in-Law

"Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by... the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government - a bureaucratic elite."
- Senator William Jenner, 1954

"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nationstates involved. As managers and creators of the system, they will rule the future."
- U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater in his l964 book: With No Apologies.

"Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have."
- Richard Salent, former president, CBS News

(to be continued)

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(continued from previous post)

If you know of anyone who doubts the the threat to America's national sovereignty by the one-world globalists, they need to read some quotes by some of the globalists themselves as well as from those who became aware of their plans.

(quotes)

"There is no such thing as an independent press in America, unless it is in the country towns. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print.

"I am paid $150.00 a week for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things. If I should permit honest opinions to be printed in one issue of my paper, like Othello, before twenty-four hours, my occupation would be gone.

"The business of the New York journalist is to destroy truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon; to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. We are the tools and vessels for rich men behind the scenes. We are intellectual prostitutes."
- John Swinton, very long ago past editor of the New York Tribune.

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."
- Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

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You lost me at "one world globalist"

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He lost me on all the long posts, and then quoting them in length. Good grief.

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There is a close coorilation between belief in conspiracy theory and not taking certain meds.

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"....and then there is that festering wound called the Vatican!"

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