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Cindy 09-15-2011 10:18 AM

Pat Robertson Advises Divorce
 
http://www.kltv.com/story/15470844/7...o-divorce-wife

(CNN) - The long-time host of the Christian television program The 700 Club shocked several viewers after advising a man to divorce his wife.

Is this biblical?

Pressing-On 09-15-2011 10:21 AM

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Doesn't he have Alzheimer's?

Hoovie 09-15-2011 10:22 AM

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Bad advise IMHO

scotty 09-15-2011 10:27 AM

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For better or worse, in sickness and in health.

It says the man has now turned "bitter towards God" and started seeing another woman.

I think reaffirming his relationship with God would be a better answer.

MissBrattified 09-15-2011 10:30 AM

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I think there are times when separation is in order, and rarer times when divorce is necessary. In this case, I'm shocked that he would recommend divorce because of an illness. What happened to "for better or worse?" Sickening advice, IMO. He should be fired for it.

Timmy 09-15-2011 10:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 1097824)
I think there are times when separation is in order, and rarer times when divorce is necessary. In this case, I'm shocked that he would recommend divorce because of an illness. What happened to "for better or worse?" Sickening advice, IMO. He should be fired for it.

I'm getting tired of agreeing with everyone here (on some things)! :heeheehee

MissBrattified 09-15-2011 11:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1097825)
I'm getting tired of agreeing with everyone here (on some things)! :heeheehee

*smirk*

Birds of a feather? Maybe you're more *goose* than you think. :D

houston 09-15-2011 12:02 PM

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cos goose is better than lame duck...

Dagwood 09-15-2011 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1097822)
Bad advise IMHO

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 1097823)
For better or worse, in sickness and in health.

It says the man has now turned "bitter towards God" and started seeing another woman.

I think reaffirming his relationship with God would be a better answer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 1097824)
I think there are times when separation is in order, and rarer times when divorce is necessary. In this case, I'm shocked that he would recommend divorce because of an illness. What happened to "for better or worse?" Sickening advice, IMO. He should be fired for it.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Michael The Disciple 09-15-2011 12:13 PM

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Unreal. Divorce instead of repent. God will hold both of them accountable.

Timmy 09-15-2011 12:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1097842)
Unreal. Divorce instead of repent. God will hold both of them accountable.

Both of whom?

Margies3 09-15-2011 12:35 PM

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Wow, I can't believe we finally have a thread here on AFF where no one disagrees with the others!! :thumbsup

Timmy 09-15-2011 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margies3 (Post 1097847)
Wow, I can't believe we finally have a thread here on AFF where no one disagrees with the others!! :thumbsup

Please stand by. There's a possible disagreement in the works. ;)

scotty 09-15-2011 12:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1097849)
Please stand by. There's a possible disagreement in the works. ;)

I disagree with that statement. :bigbaby

citizen 09-15-2011 01:17 PM

If Your Spouse Has Alzheimers Its Ok To Divorce
 
...According to Pat Robertson

Pat Robertson says Alzheimer's makes divorce OK
By TOM BREEN
Associated Press

Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson told his "700 Club" viewers that divorcing a spouse with Alzheimer's is justifiable because the disease is "a kind of death."

During the portion of the show where the one-time Republican presidential candidate takes questions from viewers, Robertson was asked what advice a man should give to a friend who began seeing another woman after his wife started suffering from the incurable neurological disorder.

"I know it sounds cruel, but if he's going to do something, he should divorce her and start all over again, but make sure she has custodial care and somebody looking after her," Robertson said.

The chairman of the Christian Broadcasting Network, which airs the "700 Club," said he wouldn't "put a guilt trip" on anyone who divorces a spouse who suffers from the illness, but added, "Get some ethicist besides me to give you the answer."

Most Christian denominations at least discourage divorce, citing Jesus' words in the Gospel of Mark that equate divorce and remarriage with adultery.

Terry Meeuwsen, Robertson's co-host, asked him about couples' marriage vows to take care of each other "for better or for worse" and "in sickness and in health."

"If you respect that vow, you say `til death do us part,'" Robertson said during the Tuesday broadcast. "This is a kind of death."

Praxeas 09-15-2011 01:31 PM

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Citizen, I would appreciate it, and I am sure others too, if you stopped posting these things without links to verify their accuracy

Praxeas 09-15-2011 01:46 PM

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Someone else already started this topic with a link

canam 09-15-2011 01:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1097844)
Both of whom?

Roberstson and the divorcer ? Robertson is an idiot and wrong

Timmy 09-15-2011 02:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by canam (Post 1097877)
Roberstson and the divorcer ? Robertson is an idiot and wrong

Let's see what Michael says. ;)

And MtheD, I'd also like to know what you meant by "repent". Who needs to repent, and of what?

houston 09-15-2011 02:30 PM

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The woman doesn't remember her husband. Should be handled like missing spouse scenario. If the wife doesn't "return" within a specific time frame the husband should be released from the covenant.

houston 09-15-2011 02:32 PM

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jk

Timmy 09-15-2011 02:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1097905)
jk

Had me going, for a second! :lol

houston 09-15-2011 02:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1097907)
Had me going, for a second! :lol

:happydance

Praxeas 09-15-2011 02:55 PM

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I'd expect this from non-Christians. Christians, to be Christ like, are not supposed to be selfish.

This "man" was mad at God and wanted to see another woman..I have to wonder how old they are and how long his spouse was there for him.

But such is the state of American Christianity. They make excuses and look for loopholes.

This is the true face of what Holiness SHOULD be. Not a dress code but a heart change. Selfless. Christlike. You find this in both Standard keeping people and the so called Liberals of our day

Timmy 09-15-2011 02:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1097914)
I'd expect this from non-Christians. Christians, to be Christ like, are not supposed to be selfish.

This "man" was mad at God and wanted to see another woman..I have to wonder how old they are and how long his spouse was there for him.

But such is the state of American Christianity. They make excuses and look for loopholes.

This is the true face of what Holiness SHOULD be. Not a dress code but a heart change. Selfless. Christlike. You find this in both Standard keeping people and the so called Liberals of our day

I doubt many of the non-Christians I know, if any, would say it's ok to divorce because of Alzheimer's.

Praxeas 09-15-2011 03:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1097917)
I doubt many of the non-Christians I know, if any, would say it's ok to divorce because of Alzheimer's.

Any with a value system would probably not say it's ok...hopefully you did not miss or obfuscate the point Timmy...did you?

Timmy 09-15-2011 03:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1097918)
Any with a value system would probably not say it's ok...hopefully you did not miss or obfuscate the point Timmy...did you?

I hope you don't think only Christians have a value system.

UnTraditional 09-15-2011 03:21 PM

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Pat Robertson has stepped over the line of spiritual sanity more times than any can count. Time to close the $700 Club and for Pat to go home, find an altar, and pray through again...

warrior 09-15-2011 03:23 PM

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My
Quote:

Originally Posted by citizen (Post 1097860)
...According to Pat Robertson

Pat Robertson says Alzheimer's makes divorce OK
By TOM BREEN
Associated Press

Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson told his "700 Club" viewers that divorcing a spouse with Alzheimer's is justifiable because the disease is "a kind of death."

During the portion of the show where the one-time Republican presidential candidate takes questions from viewers, Robertson was asked what advice a man should give to a friend who began seeing another woman after his wife started suffering from the incurable neurological disorder.

Citizen,
My God the dead has arisen!!! I didn't know you were still around!!!

"I know it sounds cruel, but if he's going to do something, he should divorce her and start all over again, but make sure she has custodial care and somebody looking after her," Robertson said.

The chairman of the Christian Broadcasting Network, which airs the "700 Club," said he wouldn't "put a guilt trip" on anyone who divorces a spouse who suffers from the illness, but added, "Get some ethicist besides me to give you the answer."

Most Christian denominations at least discourage divorce, citing Jesus' words in the Gospel of Mark that equate divorce and remarriage with adultery.

Terry Meeuwsen, Robertson's co-host, asked him about couples' marriage vows to take care of each other "for better or for worse" and "in sickness and in health."

"If you respect that vow, you say `til death do us part,'" Robertson said during the Tuesday broadcast. "This is a kind of death."


Praxeas 09-15-2011 03:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1097921)
I hope you don't think only Christians have a value system.

I guess it did. Timmy I noticed much of what get's said here goes WAY over your head. I get tired of having to explain everything to you, sorry

Timmy 09-15-2011 04:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1097935)
I guess it did. Timmy I noticed much of what get's said here goes WAY over your head. I get tired of having to explain everything to you, sorry

Yeah, it sure does. When someone says "I'd expect this from non-Christians" I completely misunderstand it.

Timmy 09-15-2011 04:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margies3 (Post 1097847)
Wow, I can't believe we finally have a thread here on AFF where no one disagrees with the others!! :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1097849)
Please stand by. There's a possible disagreement in the works. ;)

:D

Praxeas 09-15-2011 04:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1097939)
Yeah, it sure does. When someone says "I'd expect this from non-Christians" I completely misunderstand it.

Christians, even to non-Christians, are supposed to have a high moral standard. Not just a self determined standard. It's codified in the bible

An atheist does not follow that standard. They have their own and since they have no moral guide other than their own will, there is no guarantee an atheist would not do or advise such a thing. Same goes with many pagans.

I'd expect something like this, like that from anyone that did not have a moral standard to guide them.

Now, before your little wheels get spinning, please note the grammar of what I said. I said I'd expect this from a non-Christian" in comparison to a Christian. Not "I expect all non-Christians to have such a view"

In other words, due to Christians having a moral standard, the bible, this should not be expected...as Paul said

Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us, and has given Himself for us as an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling savor.
Eph 5:3 For let fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness not be once named among you, as becomes saints,
Eph 5:4 neither baseness, foolish talking, jesting, which are not becoming, but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For you know this, that no fornicator, or unclean person, or covetous one (who is an idolater), has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Real Christians are supposed to behave as though they are here in Christ's stead. Christian means a disciple of Christ or someone that is trying to be Christ like...like Christ. Thus such a behavior or attitude does not belong to the appellation "Christian".

Please tell me that did not go over your head...or is it that Timmy is just conveniently avoiding the point to start trouble? :heeheehee

houston 09-15-2011 05:34 PM

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I'd like for Prax and Tommy to place eachother on ignore.

Margies3 09-15-2011 05:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1097917)
I doubt many of the non-Christians I know, if any, would say it's ok to divorce because of Alzheimer's.

I was just thinking earlier today............ One of my all-time best friends was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. She was a well-loved, highly respected lady who had taught school here for many years. Her husband is a wonderful man who stood by her till the very end. But I have to tell you that if he had made the choice to abandon her and divorce her at any point with this terrible disease, he would not have wanted to continue to live in our small, close-knit, little town.

Terri was a great fan of Pat Robertson. I have to wonder now what she would be thinking if she knew what he has said. Shame on him!

canam 09-15-2011 07:08 PM

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Houston, we have a problem !

houston 09-15-2011 07:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by canam (Post 1097973)
Houston, we have a problem !

No, I'm fine.

Timmy 09-15-2011 08:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1097954)
Christians, even to non-Christians, are supposed to have a high moral standard. Not just a self determined standard. It's codified in the bible

An atheist does not follow that standard. They have their own and since they have no moral guide other than their own will, there is no guarantee an atheist would not do or advise such a thing. Same goes with many pagans.

I'd expect something like this, like that from anyone that did not have a moral standard to guide them.

Now, before your little wheels get spinning, please note the grammar of what I said. I said I'd expect this from a non-Christian" in comparison to a Christian. Not "I expect all non-Christians to have such a view"

In other words, due to Christians having a moral standard, the bible, this should not be expected...as Paul said

Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us, and has given Himself for us as an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling savor.
Eph 5:3 For let fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness not be once named among you, as becomes saints,
Eph 5:4 neither baseness, foolish talking, jesting, which are not becoming, but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For you know this, that no fornicator, or unclean person, or covetous one (who is an idolater), has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Real Christians are supposed to behave as though they are here in Christ's stead. Christian means a disciple of Christ or someone that is trying to be Christ like...like Christ. Thus such a behavior or attitude does not belong to the appellation "Christian".

Please tell me that did not go over your head...or is it that Timmy is just conveniently avoiding the point to start trouble? :heeheehee

Well, first, you said "non-Christians", not "a non-Christian". And I got your point. Nothing I said contradicted your point. But conversations sometimes go in different directions. I don't even disagree with the point you made, that Christians are supposed to behave in certain ways, and that many of them don't. When I said I hope you don't think only Christians have a value system (a term you first brought up), I simply meant I hope you don't think only Christians have a value system. I didn't say you did. Some Christians do believe that.

Also please note that your grammar did not unambiguously specify either all non-Christians or some. The plural, as you used it, could be taken either way. If I speculated on why you changed it to singular, you'd only pounce on me. So I won't. :lol

Timmy 09-15-2011 08:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1097958)
I'd like for Prax and Tommy to place eachother on ignore.

But then who would tell me what a moron I am? :lol

Timmy 09-15-2011 08:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margies3 (Post 1097959)
I was just thinking earlier today............ One of my all-time best friends was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. She was a well-loved, highly respected lady who had taught school here for many years. Her husband is a wonderful man who stood by her till the very end. But I have to tell you that if he had made the choice to abandon her and divorce her at any point with this terrible disease, he would not have wanted to continue to live in our small, close-knit, little town.

Terri was a great fan of Pat Robertson. I have to wonder now what she would be thinking if she knew what he has said. Shame on him!

Sorry about your friend. I hope that nobody actually listens to Pat on this particular matter. Well, I suppose the guy that asked that question was overjoyed at hearing it, but guys like that are pretty much a lost cause, anyway. Good people will see it for the nonsense that it is.


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