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You'd think, from the way I Peter 3:21 is most often quoted that it said the following.

1 Peter 3:21 Baptism doth also now save us

But it doesn't.

It says the following...

1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto [even] baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

So... I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the further explanation found in parenthesis.

The statement is made that, in like figure to the ark & the flood, baptism doth also now save us.

Then a further explanation is given that says "not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God"

What does that mean?

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getting my ESV out before Prax starts teasing us about the doth, brb

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Twas not a ceremonial cleansing as in the law but in baptism the penitent have their sins washed away.

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1 Peter 3:21

English Standard Version (ESV)


21Baptism, which corresponds to this,(A) now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but(B) as an appeal to God for a good conscience,(C) through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

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Amen. God does many wonderful things beyond the sight of man in such things like baptism. Col 2:11-12 says there is an operation God performs in baptism that is not done with human hands, while human hands baptize. In other words, the real work is not the preacher baptizing the person, but the faith in the obedient one being baptized causes God to operate and cut away the body of the sins of the flesh. That is why baptism is a spiritual circumcision. But when spiritual issues are in focus, many cannot fathom them, so they do not see any spiritual value in water baptism.

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In other words... what it is stating is that the cleansing going on is not a physical cleansing but a spiritual one?

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Yes, a cleansing of sin is a spiritual cleansing. Or a spiritual circumcision. Cutting away not physical flesh but the body of sins of the flesh.

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Abraham's faith before circumcision imputed righteousness. Think on these things.

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How does that pertain to the question?

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NOT a thing.

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because baptism is the NT circumcision

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I think he's trying to say that if baptism is where the body of sin is cut off, (iow, no more sin but now righteousness) then Abraham could not have been righteous until he got circumcised.

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Abe was saved, if you will, before circumcision. What many are promoting is a salvation through/after (spiritual) circumcsion.

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I have heard this statement, but how is this true? 'cause honestly, I was baptized twice as an adult, but my heart surely was not circumcised UNTIL the day I got the baptism of the HolyGhost.

What scripture states baptism is the NT circumcision?

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That is very important to know. But it implies the faith Abraham had was the kind of faith that God knew WOULD WORK. In other words, God knew Abraham would submit to circumcision before Abraham did it because God knew the heart of Abraham that believed had the kind of faith that was alive and WOULD WORK, or WOULD OBEY.

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Col 2:11-12.

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Col 2:11-12 is not speaking about righteousness, though.

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NO OT type is perfect that is why it is called a shadow or type the argument is moot. IN the NT ONLY at baptism are the sins of the penitent remitted.

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Acts 10:43
To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

Also, consider what Peter said again:

Acts 15

7And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
8And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

Their hearts were already purified by God even before they were baptized.

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I agree with all your points, but baptism was still demanded, and without it I think they would be lost if they refused it. Abraham was deemed righteous before circumcision, but do you think God would have done that had God seen his heart would refuse circumcision when it was required of him?

Baptism is a SIGNATURE on a contract, so to speak. God's seal is the Holy Ghost. Ours is baptism. It is part of cutting the covenant.

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Col 2
11In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

It doesn't say when we're baptized, our heart is circumcised?? Anyway, maybe it's just me who hasn't seen it yet.

If baptism is what circumcises the heart, then how do we explain Simon the sorcerer's heart after baptism?

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Yes, agreed

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Two possible answers. 1) Simon did not have faith that he should have had. Baptism is only good when our faith is correct. 2) Simon was tempted after a genuine heart cleansing, as ALL CHRISTIANS ARE, and gave in as many do.

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NOPE! Baptism was included in the purifying of the heart. v.48 Part of the SAVING words was baptism. Acts 11:14-15

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I agree with you...the baptism that Jesus came to bring was baptism of the Spirit...which is the Spiritual circumcision of the heart. Peter remembered the words of Jesus Acts 11:16

Baptism of the Spirit can happen before water baptism Acts 10:47 and of course after water baptism Act 19

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Romans 6:3-7 is the companion reference to Colossians 2:11-12 that speaks to baptism being the NT circumcision, the "cutting away and destruction" of the old man, the body of sin.

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Although Spirit baptism can occur before or after water baptism, I do not think circumcision is involved in Spirit baptism. Spirit baptism is not a death with Christ as is water baptism. To cut or circumcise body of sins away is what water baptism is involved with. Spirit baptism is more of a giving of life rather than a taking away of sins. That is why water baptism is said to be part of washing away sins in Acts 22:16.

Water baptism is part of coming into union with Christ's death. And it is in speaking of death in Romans 6 that water baptism is involved. 1 Peter 3 notes water baptism and chapter 4 says the same thing Romans 6 says -- we should no longer live the rest of our time in the flesh, or after the flesh. Spirit baptism causes Him to be inside us in order to live through us, but water baptism is involved directly with dealing with sin.

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God had predestined Abraham to good works? Right on! The NT believer is also predestined to good works in Christ: Ephesians 2:10.

As I've understood Bezerkly, Abraham was "saved" (righteousness was imputed upon him) by God in Genesis 15:6. Later, God established the covenant of circumcision (Genesis 17) with Abraham and Abraham was faithful to follow God's covenant. That's good, sound Bible exegesis.

Thus, Abraham was "saved" before he was circumcised. In the same manner, a NT believer is saved from sin BEFORE he/she is baptized in water (Romans 4:3-9) and THEN, as a part of joining the NT body of believers, is later baptized in water ("buried with Christ" - Romans 6:4).

Genesis 15:6 comes before Genesis 17.

Romans 4 comes before Romans 6.

... and, in a similar manner, Colossians 1:18-23, comes before Colossians 2:11-12.

Again, notice how the pioneers of the UPC saw this matter. I know that neither Mike nor Steve are UPC themselves, but this might be said to represent "the majority opinion" of Oneness believers. When are "sins remitted?" At Repentance and Conversion" and NOT at "Water Baptism."

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That's not entirely fair to TGBTG ("The Country's Best Yogurt is Grape Jelly?" Or something?) Anyhoo... In Colossians 2:11-12 we do find Paul making this comparison. However, Ephesians 2 has a different take. The fact that Paul himself wasn't too dogmatic about this "typology" should serve as a warning to us to be careful not to be so demanding ourselves.

In Ephesians 2:11-22, it is the "cutting" of Jesus Christ on the cross and not the "cutting" of the flesh (see Ephesians 2:16) in a literal circumcision that makes us a part of the people of God. It is an operation of God's Spirit and not that of a rabbi with a flint blade (See Ephesians 2:18) that performs this for us. In any case, water baptism isn't even in view here; nor is anything that you can do "with hands" (See Ephesians 2:11) like baptizing people.

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Scripture? (See Romans 3:25) ... oh, and give us the name of a "heretick" from the writings of the "Church Fathers" who preached this doctrine of yours. One name. :thumbsup

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Ephesians 2:11-22 again. "Circumcision" is under discussion in this passage and it concludes with, "In him (Jesus) you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit;" but there is no mention nor any indication at all that water baptism plays a part in any of this.

Water baptism is important - I would say that it is nearly universally necessary (with the exceptions like Mike's "Guy Who Dies in the Car on the Way to Be Baptized"). However, the grace it imparts is NOT "the forgiveness of sins." It involves a few steps that each believer will take along their journey to the Promised Land.

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Name one. From about 200 AD through 1899. Name one.

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I named Sabellius. You didn't like him.

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Oh I like him fine. You never told me how he baptized, though. We'll need at least some evidence if not "ample evidence." You never gave us "ample evidence" that he ever "spoke in tongues" either. You haven't responded to most of my questions, for that matter.

And, as you recall our differences here, he really lived in the "dawn" of the time period under question. You asserted that you had "ample evidence" of those who held your beliefs just from the "POST Nicene Fathers" (these were the "Fathers" whose careers and writings followed 325 AD). To make things a bit easier, I have expanded the range and enlarged your target by over 1,500 years. Surely you can hit something there.

We need folks who "preached the full package of Acts 2:38 salvation." All the stuff that you have said is essential for one's salvation. Still, we have no one from about 200-225 through 1899 AD. Almost the entire "Church Age" without a "full package Acts 2:38 preacher." Was no one saved?

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So you have a quote where Sabellius did not speak in tongues? Elders Chalfant & Wisner both have books order them.

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Do you have quotes that he did?

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in the interest of considering all evidence, please review and comment

please note that various church history in interspersed with the evidence of peoples who baptized in Jesus Name and/or had the HG. This does not prove that there is any church history that corresponds directly with the UPC model though. please comment

AD 33-100

�� AD 34 Phillip baptized the Ethiopian. This new convert took the Acts message to North Africa and started North African Christianity. This message spread through all of Africa. (A. Neander,pp.71,79,132,424) It never perished.

�� AD 46-50 Paue, et.al., evangelized Asia Minor and lower Europe. (Acts 15:14)

�� AD 51 Paul preached on Mars Hill at Athens, Greece. (Acts 17:22)

�� AD 50-60 Apostle Thomas indoctrinated Malabar, India with Acts 2:38 doctrine. (A.S. Atiya, pp. 53,261)

�� AD 66-90 THEY WENT OUT FROM US, because they were not of us. (1 John 2:19;Jude 1- 3). Most were apostate Greeks who had been seethed in Platonism, polytheism, mythology and philosophy. Some could never understand monotheism.

�� AD 90 CATHOLIC CHURCH starts. TRINITARIANISM invented. (L. Paine, pp.86,287). It was derived from Plato's celestial arithmetic. (L. Hogben, p.266). Tertullian twisted Plato's TIMAEUS into his "TRINITAS." Here started the Trinity.

AD 100-200

The Acts water baptism continued. (A. Neander,p.301) Tongues speaking continued. (W. Horton, pp. 71-75,150). They preached the Apostolic One God message. (Blunt, p. 440).

�� AD 96-100 Apostle John died. He had carried on for Paul and evangelized the Roman world, Armenia, Malabar, Saxony, and Glastonbury.

�� AD 117 Celtic missionaries spread Acts 2 over Western Europe. (A. Neander,p.49). Gospel preached in China. (Langer,p.537). Apostolics had Bibles. (Blunt,p.127).

�� AD 157 MONTANISM amplified. (Blunt,pp.338,440). Montanist were One God tongue talkers, Acts 2 Christians. Montanist were also called SABELLIANISM. (Blunt, PP.340,440). Montanism was alive as late as 1909 in Moravia. R.A. Knox, p.402).

�� AD 180 THE NORTH AFRICAN APOSTOLIC CHURCH fought the Catholic system. (A. Neander,p.132;H.C. Frend, p.91)

�� AD 175 Early ideas about purgatory, catechism, and confirmation seeped into Catholicism which was adopted from the Orphic cult. (Bernstein & Green,p. 78).

�� AD 193 Emperor SEPTIMUS SEVERUS forbade any to join Apostolic Christianity or Judaism! (H. F. Frend,p 91).

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AD 200-300

�� AD 200 Hundreds of thousands continued Holy Spirit tongues, gifts of the Spirit. This Apostolic doctrine was in Europe, Eurasia, Asia, including China, and North Africa. (Heick,p.150;M.T. Kelsey,pp.40,41).

�� AD 204 Basilides martyred because he preached Acts 2 message.

�� AD 230 TERTULLIAN declared that tongues-speaking Monarchians outnumbered Catholics. (A. C. Mc Giffert,p.239).

�� AD 240 MANI, born in Persia, baptized in Jesus Name, knew glossolalia, and kept the feast of Pentecost (Blunt,p.289;J.Laux,p.141).

�� AD 275-300 MAMAS and DONATUS came on the theological scene. Donatism was of Sabellianism. In AD 350 this group had 400 churches. (L. Verduin,pp.30,258). QUOTE: "In the forms of some of the different sects (Montanist, Donatist, Sabellian, Arian, ect,.) the Monarchian controversy agitated the church of Rome...during the third century, and in the fourth, and called for the two great Councils of Nicea and Constantinople." (J.H. Blunt,P.332).

�� AD 217-222 CALLISTUS devised the hail Marys, self-tortures and proclaimed himself: PONTIFF MAXIMUS. (O.W. Heick,p 101).

�� AD 252 The Council of Cartage directed that newborn infants be baptized within 8 days. (N.C. Eberhardt,p 117).

AD 300-400

The major churches of the...East were of Apostolic origin." (A. S. Atiya)

�� AD 320-340 WOLFLEIN (Little Wolf) was one of the greatest Apostolic preachers. He translated the GOTHIC BIBLE. He was responsible for baptism of millions of Europeans in Jesus Name. (H. Daniel-Rops,p.110). After the Nicean Council persecution was more severely levied against them. Only Apostolic Churches continued. (Neander,p. 126)

�� AD 304 Emperor Diocletian killed Jesus Name people. One God Christians were martyred by Rome. (Martyrs Mirror, p.155).

�� AD 313 CONSTANTINE became Emperor of all Rome. AD 325 he held the NICENE COUNCIL, the start of TRINITARIANISM.

�� AD 361 Apostolic churches confiscated by Catholics of Constantinople. We have been duped into supposing Catholicism was dominant by AD 370. There was but a handful of them in Africa. (R.A. Knox,p.58).

�� AD 390 Emperor Theodosius II killed 7000 Jesus Named Thessalonians. (Wm. Langer,p.129)

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AD 400-500

Beyond the reach or Rome in outlying places such as Saxony, Netherlands, Languedoc, etc., there were whole organizations of Acts 2 Christians. (J.H. Blunt,p. 15).

�� AD 502 The majority of people in W. European tribes had been baptized into the Name of Jesus. (H. Daniel-Rops, p.110)

�� AD 540-670 Bede, "English History" p. 148, found one-God people throughout England.

�� AD 431 COUNCIL OF EPHESUS (laux. p.154) The popes (199 of them) proclaimed Mary to be the "MOTHER OF GOD." (E. Fodor, Turkey 1970, p.243).

�� CATHOLICS BURN ALLEGED HERETICS! (J.B. Russell, p. 22).

�� AD 453 Pentecostal glossolalists martyred by Pope Leo I, some were tongues speaking Priscillianists. (Roth, p.35).

�� AD 476 ROMAN EMPIRE FELL! Rome could no longer lord over other nations. Vain historians wept and moaned over the fall of corrupt Rome.

�� AD 476-1000 THE DARK AGES.

AD 600-700

Christianity was found in several Modalistic Monarchian organizations. These were generally referred to collectively as: CATHARI.

�� AD 610 JESUS NAME WATER BAPTISM (Lambert, p. 62). The Jesus Christ water baptism was almost the only one in Frisia until AD 689. There were almost no Catholics. (J. Laux, p. 218).

�� NOTE: For 526 years (since AD 37-42) Apostolic Celts in Britain had kept the 14th NISAN Passover! One God doctrine was the dominant religion by far. (E.T. Thompson, "Through the Ages, pp. 106-108). The world has been duped into supposing Catholicism was the only religion there was.

�� AD 662 MOSLEMS FOUGHT CATHOLICS. Islamism was strong. Muslims had the KORAN, their Holy Book. (Bernstein & Green, p. 172). Muslims in Spain were the Moors; and they protected Jews and other one God Christians from Catholic interest.

�� AD 695 Jews were killed in Spain by the Catholics. The adult Jews were martyred in Spain by Catholic believers and children of the jews were seized and reared as Catholics! (C. Roth, p.127).

AD 700-800

Celtic-Gothic (Acts 2) Christianity infiltrate W. Europe. Apostolic Christianity was throughout the Eastern Hemisphere, from Frisia to China, in massive organizations which had different names. Montanist, Donatist, Manichee, etc. There could have been more than 40 One God Apostolic organizations. It is amazing to find so many references concerning ancient One God Apostolic people and preachers.

�� AD 730 Pope Zachary was forced to acknowledge that the Christ baptism was dominant. (J.B. Russell,pp.172-175)

�� AD 717 Moslem armies besieged Constantinople. Moslems mocked at Rome's religious system and called it idol worship. (Wm. Langer,p. 158). War started. Moslems (Moors) defeated the Spaniards. This accounts for Catholic-Spanish hate for Moors and Jews. In 1492 Spain regained power and then massed murdered Moors, Jews and Apostolics, 6,000,000 is one figure. (C.Roth,p.123)

�� AD 746-748 Great plagues struck. Cholera, diphtheria, struck and killed millions. ("Ency. Britannica, Vol. 17, Chicago,p.1141).

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AD 800-900

The Catholic hierarchy slandered all others as, HERETICS! However, alleged heretics filled the lands.

�� AD 800 Quote: "Donatism (Acts 2) was never absent from the medieval scene. It lasted for twelve centuries and it maintained the primitive Apostolic message." (L.Verduin, p.35).

�� The 9th century had more Apostolics than any other. The following references prove this. (Z. Oldenbourg, pp. 29,41,255; J.B. Ressell, pp. 5-14, 172-178). During this period the Catholic system almost suffered total collapse. Apostolic preachers were everywhere. There were more "false priest" as they were called who had been ordained in the Catholic system. (Russell, p. 174).

�� AD 800 Vain kings like Pepin, Charles Martel, Charlemagne, etc., bowed to popes. (Wm. Langer, pp.150-155). Huge land grants were handed to the popes.

�� Charlemagne conquered and confiscated for the Vatican; he made about 54 military campaigns against non-Catholic countries, 18 against Saxony alone. (Berstein & Green, p. 200; E.T. Tompson, pp. 120-125). He then forced people into Catholicism.

�� AD 858-867 Pope Nicholas admitted that Jesus Name baptism was the valid one! ("Enc. Britannica, 11th ed., Vol 3, pp. 365-366).

�� AD 852-889 FEUDALISM STARTED. This is how Europe became Catholic. Rulers used Catholic armies to crush Bulgaria; that religion was forced upon Czechs and Slavics, etc. Jews were then massacred. (Bernstein & Green, p. 150-1; Laux, pp 275-288).

AD 900-1000

The Acts 2 churches continued to grow. GLOSSOLALIA, tongue-speaking, was called MYSTICISM, by some historians. (Russell, p. 172). There were divine miracles and gifts of the Spirit. We find that many organizations slandered as HERETICS.

�� AD 923 Eugenia was baptized in Jesus Name.

�� AD 925 Pelagius was baptized in Jesus Name.

�� AD 980 Sympronius was baptized in Jesus Name. ("Martyrs Mirror," p. 256). SIMONY erupted. This denotes offices bought or sold for money or favors. Some popes sold offices to the highest bidders. (Langer, pp. 215-217).

�� AD 995-999 King OLAF I of Norway, martyred thousands and with military might became the "man" of the lord, and served him! Later the lord handed to the bishop legal rights to the lands. Thus lands passed on to the Vatican. (Wm. Langer, p. 204). About the same time Catholic religion, was by power of the sword, imposed in Iceland and Greenland.

�� AD 1000-1100

The name Cathari gradually faded. Then was heard the name ALBIGENSES. Yet later, Albigensian gradually gave way to ANABAPTISM. Anabaptism simply means to re-baptize someone. The Anabaptist would re-baptize any one who was not baptized in Jesus Name.

�� AD 1015 Russians were militarily forced into Catholic belief. (Wm. Langer, p. 243).

�� AD 1029 Swedes were forced to take on Catholic belief.

�� AD 1035 Danes were forced to take on Catholic belief.

�� AD 1035 Salvic tribes were force to accept Catholic belief.

�� AD 1095 THE CRUSADERS. The Crusaders slaughtered Slavics and Jews on the way to Jerusalem. They took Jerusalem, mass murdered the Muslims and butchered 90,000 Jews. (Berstein & Green p. 255) The Crusaders looted murdered and plundered. They spread venereal diseases all over the Mideast. Then the great PLAGUES broke out. In that holocaust millions died!

AD 1100-1200

�� AD 1105 SCHOOLMEN men denied the Trinity.

�� AD 1108 "MULTITUDES OF FREETHINKERS" This is what the Apostolics, that covered the land was called. Pentecostals in Europe numbered about 4,000,000. (Blunt, p. 15,35; J. B. Russell,pp 54-80) It is interesting how these authors, Blunt and Russell, smeared, slandered those people. They were called "Henricians." Russell referred to them on page 76 as, "Apostolic holiness." They preached "hell fire" sermons. They used the Christ water baptism. Glossolalia was a common trait.

�� Waldo, of Lyons, France was one of the first that turned to Rome for doctrinal approval. He created a hybrid protestant religion. (Blunt, 617).

�� Many Apostolics were put to death. One little girl mocked and laughed as she died in the flames, but would not give up her belief in one God. 7000 people referred to as pious witness of Jesus were martyred at Bourges. (J. H. Blunt, p. 412)

�� AD 1121 COUNCIL of SOISSONS defended the Trinity attacked by the Schoolmen. (Blunt, p. 36)

�� AD 1147 St. Bernard of Clairvaux, France stated, "33% of the Catholics went to protestant conventicles!" (L. Verduin, p. 173)

�� AD 1164 PETER WALDO appeared! This was the beginning of PROTESTANT TRINITARIANISM. WALDENSIANISM held Rome's Trinity. In 1179 Waldo's bishops went to Rome for approval. (Blunt, p.617). Waldo set the pattern for modern Trinitarian protestant religion. Luther, Swingli, Menno, etc., followed.

AD 1200-1300

�� AD 1214 On July 27, the frightful happened. France's Catholic government gained control of Languedoc from the English. North France could, under Vatican orders, exterminate the mighty numbers of Apostolics. The papal INQUISITION was unleased upon all non- Catholics. (E. T. Thompson, pp 157-160; Roth, p. 36; Bernstein & Green, pp. 255,302).

�� ALBIGENSIANS MASSACRED. Who were the Albigensians that vain historians, suporting Rome, have so slandered? They were Holy Ghost filled, Jesus Named baptized, God fearing citizens who read their Bibles. They had ecclesiastical systems, schools and hospitals in over 1000 cities. (L. Verduin, pp. 106-115). They were driven out of their cities, then Catholic monasteries appeared. Many fled into Moravia.

�� AD 1284 URSINUS OF ETHIOPIA, an Ethiopian scholar, declared that baptism into the Name, Jesus Christ, alone was valid. This indicates that Philip's witness of the Eunuch years earlier was still working.

�� A century of CATHOLIC MASS MURDER. The INQUISITION was set in motion. It was insanity, devised by insane minds at the Vatican. AUTO DE FEs (Act of Faith!)

�� AD 1233 the Catholic Inquisition, a system of Catholic Tribunal Courts, was officially founded by Pope Gregory IX. It lasted until July 15, 1834. It's purpose was to punish the heretics and all persons guilty of any offence against Catholic orthodoxy. These Heretics should be deprived of the liberty of speech and that assemblies organized by heretics should be dissolved was the law. ("Ency. Britannica" 1950 Ed. Vol. 12, p. 377). The later part of the 10th century until the beginning of the 12th there were numerous executions of heretics, either by burning or strangling, in France, Italy, and the Empire of England. Remember that the heretics are the one God Apostolic organizations who would not accept the church of Rome.

�� C.S. Lovett, "Voice In The Wilderness" p. 9 said, "68,000,000, persons perished in the INQUISITION!" Most do not know that Adolf Hitler was a Catholic, and 6,000,000 Jews also perished under him and that canon law was again used. Canon law or body of laws is laws established by a church. It is a basis for judgment. This is consider to be the most important part of the mass. I suggest those who are interested in learning more about this awful time of INQUISITION check the Bibliography at the end of this study and review the list of books listed there.