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.....to realize that at some point you have to stop!


Duggers expecting their 20th

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...aby-number-20/

Honestly, they are expecting their 20th... and probably had sex 20 times.

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oh good grief.

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wow....

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Basically they are going to keep going until the health issues become SO severe that at least three in a row will be severely handicapped or stillborn, and then they STILL won't stop citing their belief that only God is in control (instead of Jim Bob keeping it in his pants).

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Have they run out of "J" names yet?

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They seem to be able to take care of them all fairly well. All the children seem to be fairly well-adjusted. Not sure what the problem is.

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I'm sure someone could write a computer program which will generate semi-random names, beginning with J to keep them going for centuries.

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but, really, if they want that many children and are capable of caring for their needs, I don't see a problem. :) As long as they are not abusing medicaid and welfare and food stamps and such.....let them have as many as they want.

If I were her husband though, I'd be very concerned for my wife's health in having her body go through all that so often.

I know a family that has 8 children and and her doctor advised her and her husband that they should stop for her health's sake. They did, but I believe they are thinking of adoption now. :)

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The bolded is a big part but can you imagine the tax refund you would get if you were able to write down 16-18 deductions on your tax returns?? That combined with whatever TLC is paying them per episode (which isn't nearly as many as the Jon and Kate fiasco but is still pretty sizable -all tax free).

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Would someone take a moment and explain to these people what a condom or birth control is? Geesh!

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be fruitful and multiply!

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and multiply and multiply and multiply...and so on

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what business is it of yours?

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What business is ANYTHING of yours, or mine, or anyone here?


Doesn't stop you, me, or anyone from talking about some things endlessly.

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I often watch a few minutes of their show here and there, but a few minutes is all I can take. The family makes The Waltons look like Jerry Springer material (which is unbelievably grating for some reason).

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I am all for people having large families. I wish we had been able to have more. but there is an issue as they age that the children have higher and higher chances of being born with serious life long defects.

The last baby (if memory serves) spent a good deal of time in the NICU. That would be a red flag to me.

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To each their own but it is certainly a frame of mind I can't understand.

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Based on their statements about why they do not use contraceptives, I think they believe that if God wants them to get pregnant, they will. If He doesn't, they won't. I am assuming they would think that any new child that has long term defects would be in His will also. Can't argue with that too much.

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Yes you can. That is the same reasoning someone would use if they cancelled their car insurance. Stopped wearing their seat belts, and held their kids in their lap while they drove. Oh, and closed their eyes as well while doing all of the above. It is the "If God wants to protect us He will, if not, then it is His will as well" argument.

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So you are questioning their decision to put their faith into a God they believe controls everything in their life? Isn't that what the Bible tells us to do? That seems fairly arrogant or you.

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Yep, that will wear her body out. And then their children will be left to raise their siblings.

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Birth control is a subject I've never really heard talked about by OPs. Years ago, the church I attended preached believing God for healing and going to a doctor was somewhat frowned upon. I knew women who had their babies at home and not at a hospital.

There were people who died because of their conviction against seeing a doctor; people who might be alive today.

You don't typically see OPs having the 6-8 children that people used to have before birth control became a common practice though, so I'm assuming it's commonly accepted now.

I don't think there is anything wrong with having a large family though.

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These people are doing nothing wrong at all. This is the normal way God has made concerning reproduction. No one ever had birth control pills until the sixties. Matter of fact birth contol pills created the sexual revolution that turned practically all Americans to whoredoms.

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I think many OP's have had their eyes opened and now know where babies come from -and it's not from making out while wearing swimming suits like some used to tell their kids in the 50's and 60's. LOL

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Is it?

Can I quit my job tomorrow and trust that God will provide for me?

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Exactly! It is no different then the laws of physics that God set in motion at the Big Bang.

Having (unprotected) sex usually results in babies. It is a consequence of an action without another action being taken to prevent the first action. So why is it that many think that somehow not allowed to have control over this area?

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You shouldn't have babies younger than your grandchildren. Good grief.

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This couple has decided to let God control the womb (Gen. 1:28) and have more than the average 1.5 children. Whether or not we agree with that conviction, can we at least respect it? The fact that so many people are going ballistic about the size of the Duggars' family proves that we are a product of our generation.

As Michael stated, birth control didn't even exist until the last century. Big families were normal. Also, for practical reasons, I hope that more people are starting to have bigger families because the world population is aging faster than at any other point in human history. Not to be a prophet of doom, but people are living much longer, and there are not enough younger people to care for the older generation. At some point in the near future, there will be a demographic crisis. This is well documented by sociologists and economists worldwide. For example: http://www.demographicwinter.com/index.html

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:thumbsup:thumbsup

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I agree......

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Hey, if more people who were conservative did this, then inside of a generation we would be able to keep power for 50 years. j/k



I think that one would eventually ask God to close the womb, but apparently they have decided that they want to fulfill the command in Scripture. I wish them the best. (I have not and will not watch the show, but I have heard about it on the Christian radio stations.)

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Just a generation ago, this wasn't so uncommon. My dad has nieces and nephews older than him and my brother is older than a maternal aunt. I know of several other similar situations. :thumbsup

(And I'm NOT that old!) :heeheehee

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I have a neice and nephew that I'm only 1 and 2 years older. LOL
Seems strange for a toddler to ever be calle Auntie!! LOL!

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I find myself more intrigued each time I hear about this family, intrigued in a good way. They firmly believe in family and that children are literally a gift from God. I've caught a few glimpses of them on TV over the past few years. I'll probably watch it if I seem them on again...

Hearing about this family is quite different than hearing about Nadya Suleman, aka Octomom, from California. The difference between a mom on welfare with too many kids raising them on her own (presumably) vs. Mr. Duggar being commerical real estate investor and Ms. Duggar a licensed real estate agent raising too many kids together. "Too many" is simply a matter of opinion, though, where the difference is how responsible the parent(s) have been/are/will be. I haven't seen anything about the Duggar children on welfare/food stamps, whereas Ms. Suleman and her children are (or were at last check). I believe the Duggar children (of appropriate age) are homeschooled as well...

I did find this bit of info on the Duggars. It's pretty self-explanitory: http://www.duggarfamily.com/content/home

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If you feel that is the Lord's will, sure. Are you saying He could not provide for you if He wanted you to quit your job?

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Every child they have brings more money their way! It's a TV show guys. So in some ways I see self-centeredness....the parents definitely have issues.

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Issues, such as? Don't be so vague with opinion...

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Not really. They were already providing very well for their family before they were on TV. They have commercial real estate holdings. As a matter of fact, they were already building their new house when their series started.

I am sure the money from the television series helps, but they were able to provide for their family just fine long before the series.

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Twisp, very well-said!

The Duggars could survive well on their own whether they were featured on TV or not. I think their exposure is good for a change...