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Dedicated Mind 11-12-2011 10:22 AM

CBS Debate Tonight!
 
CBS will host republicans in south carolina at 8pm est. The theme will be foreign policy. Looking to see cain's true weakness and wether newt and romney will shine. perry is due for a breakthrough, can he do it?

Aquila 11-12-2011 11:16 AM

I believe this one will reveal Cain's weakness. This is Perry's chance to redeem himself. I think he will come out roaring to appear strong, but if looked at closely his policies will lack the substance, wisdom, and diplomacy needed. It will be "shoot'em up cowboy" more than wise, strategic leader. I predict if Newt is listened to, he'll DOMINATE.

Pressing-On 11-12-2011 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1113166)
I believe this one will reveal Cain's weakness. This is Perry's chance to redeem himself. I think he will come out roaring to appear strong, but if looked at closely his policies will lack the substance, wisdom, and diplomacy needed. It will be "shoot'em up cowboy" more than wise, strategic leader. I predict if Newt is listened to, he'll DOMINATE.

You're lack of knowledge on this point is astounding. He has created more jobs than Obama, encourages and respects small business, has a clear and defined understanding of federalism in relation to what the states should not be forced into, he has very solid core convictions that most of America aligns with, he can also unite core conservative Republicans, Independents and Democrats across this whole nation on social, economic and defense policy.


Also, a brain freeze is one's inability to recollect something SO BASIC at that point in time..with all the criticism Perry has got, no one has been able to answer how you prepare not to have brain freeze. It seems the criticism is that, if you are running for POTUS, you can't afford to make human mistakes. He was honest- he could have named any agency and say later that he misspoke, or he could have said check my plan on my website. Finally, how come it is lost in all this that he later remembered? If you have never lost your train of thoughts, then I would understand the criticism. Ronald Reagan had his.

And why is no one talking about Cain's brain freeze on a medicare question that Newt had to answer for him at the Woodlands debate? No one is talking about that.

Pressing-On 11-12-2011 12:09 PM

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I am in it until the last hoorah! :cheer

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Perry Can Win If Leadership Trumps Debates

Gov. Rick Perry stated at the outset of his presidential campaign that he is running for president based on his principles and leadership accomplishments, not his oratorical skills. Media focus on his debate missteps deliberately ignores Perry’s record and charisma.

Because America voted for silver-tongued eloquence and sparkling debate performances in 2008. How’s that working out for you?

http://biggovernment.com/kenandken/2...rumps-debates/

Pressing-On 11-12-2011 12:21 PM

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Hank Greenberg Discusses Rick Perry's Campaign on Bloomberg TV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTw_f...ature=youtu.be

Dedicated Mind 11-12-2011 01:17 PM

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po, u are defending perry tooth and nail, but i have heard at least 2 republican strategists say he is finished.

Aquila 11-12-2011 01:42 PM

Did Perry have brain freeze, or did he merely forget everything his handlers coached him to say?

And what's with Texan politicians talking like they have chew in their mouths? They say "firsht" instead of "first"..."shecond" instead of "second". And what's with Perry even mimmicking President Bush's mannerisms? The dudes another "useful idiot" for the special interests.

Gingrich drafted his own policies and even advises conservative PACs on policies. Newt lead Congress under Clinton and is thus well versed on domestic and foreign policy. The dude is the most intelligent Republican running.

Please read Newt's book, Winning The Future. Great policies. I know...Newt isn't a conservative idealogue, so many conservatives take some issue with him...but he's real...and is his own man.

Aquila 11-12-2011 01:44 PM

National Security: For over two decades, Gingrich has taught at the United States Air Force's Air University, where he is the longest-serving teacher of the Joint Flag Officer Warfighting Course. In addition, he is a Distinguished Visiting Scholar and Professor at the National Defense University and teaches officers from all of the defense services.

Aquila 11-12-2011 01:45 PM

Gingrich taught history at the University of West Georgia (then called West Georgia College) in Carrollton, from 1970 to 1978. He also taught a class, Renewing American Civilization, at Kennesaw State University (then called Kennesaw State College) in 1993.

Pressing-On 11-12-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1113202)
Did Perry have brain freeze, or did he merely forget everything his handlers coached him to say?

And what's with Texan politicians talking like they have chew in their mouths? They say "firsht" instead of "first"..."shecond" instead of "second". And what's with Perry even mimmicking President Bush's mannerisms? The dudes another "useful idiot" for the special interests.

Gingrich drafted his own policies and even advises conservative PACs on policies. Newt lead Congress under Clinton and is thus well versed on domestic and foreign policy. The dude is the most intelligent Republican running.

Please read Newt's book, Winning The Future. Great policies. I know...Newt isn't a conservative idealogue, so many conservatives take some issue with him...but he's real...and is his own man.


Newt Gingrich has left a long trail of comments on cap and trade, most of them from his brief 2006-2007 tour as an environmentalist who wanted, as his book was titled, "A Contract with the Earth." The most specific comments I've seen came in a February 2007 interview with PBS's Frontline. He is not consistent. Gov. Perry has been consistent. He never bought into the Global Warming myth.

“I think if you have mandatory carbon caps combined with a trading system, much like we did with sulfur, and if you have a tax-incentive program for investing in the solutions, that there's a package there that's very, very good. And frankly, it's something I would strongly support.... If [George W. Bush] had instituted a regime that combined three things I just said -- mandatory caps, a trading system inside the caps, as we have with clean air, and a tax incentive to be able to invest in the new technology and to be able to produce the new technology -- I think we would be much better off than we are in the current situation." -- Newt Gingrich

Aquila 11-12-2011 01:46 PM

Congress fulfilled Gingrich's Contract promise (which laid out ten policies that Republicans promised to bring to a vote on the House Floor during the first hundred days of the new Congress) to bring all ten of the Contract's issues to a vote within the first 100 days of the session, even though most legislation was initially held up in the Senate. Over the objection of liberal/progressive interest groups and President Clinton, who called it the 'Contract on America', many aspects of the proposal were implemented in subsequent legislation.

Aquila 11-12-2011 01:48 PM

By 1998, Gingrich had become a highly visible and polarizing figure in the national public's eye, making him a target for Democratic congressional candidates across the nation. His national approval rating was 45% in April 1998, although his local approval was undiminished, and was reelected to his seat.

Aquila 11-12-2011 01:49 PM

Poverty: Newt would prohibit welfare to minor mothers and deny increased AFDC for additional children born while on welfare. He supports less spending on welfare and establishing work requirements. He thinks welfare should only last 2 years.

Aquila 11-12-2011 01:51 PM

Gingrich has two daughters from his first marriage. Kathy Gingrich Lubbers is president of Gingrich Communications, and Jackie Gingrich Cushman is an author, conservative columnist, and political commentator whose books include 5 Principles for a Successful Life, co-authored with Newt Gingrich.

Aquila 11-12-2011 01:51 PM

Energy and the Environment: Newt would end the 'scare tactics' and drill in Alaska.

Aquila 11-12-2011 01:52 PM

A 1980 memo from then-freshman House member Gingrich may be the original inspiration for Ronald Reagan's 'are you better off than you were four years ago?' line from a presidential debate the same year.

Aquila 11-12-2011 01:53 PM

Education: Newt insists that failing schools must change and he supports charter schools. He would provide students at hopeless schools with private school scholarships.

Pressing-On 11-12-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1113212)
Gingrich has two daughters from his first marriage. Kathy Gingrich Lubbers is president of Gingrich Communications, and Jackie Gingrich Cushman is an author, conservative columnist, and political commentator whose books include 5 Principles for a Successful Life, co-authored with Newt Gingrich.

Will Callista be the first FLOTUS who was sleeping with a married man? Great example for America. Next we will have two men as POTUS and FLOTUS. Our debate will be - Who is taking on the woman's role and who is taking on the man's? Downward spiral of our moral values.

Aquila 11-12-2011 01:54 PM

During Newt's tenure as Speaker, he represented the public face of the Republican opposition to President Bill Clinton.

Michael The Disciple 11-12-2011 01:55 PM

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I will vote for someone on the basis of these 3 things.

1. Their abortion position.
2. Their second amendment position.
3.Their position on homosexuality.

So far Rick Perry would have my vote above the others. Some of them would meet my criteria of the 3 issues but Rick Perry is the only one who publicly called for fasting and prayer and humbling ourselves before Jesus Christ, then shared the stage of the "Response" with the IHOP Ministry team.

Pressing-On 11-12-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1113219)
I will vote for someone on the basis of these 3 things.

1. Their abortion position.
2. Their second amendment position.
3.Their position on homosexuality.

So far Rick Perry would have my vote above the others. Some of them would meet my criteria of the 3 issues but Rick Perry is the only one who publicly called for fasting and prayer and humbling ourselves before Jesus Christ, then shared the stage of the "Response" with the IHOP Ministry team.

:thumbsup

Pressing-On 11-12-2011 01:59 PM

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On March 7, Gingrich had an idea: impose a no-fly zone in Libya for humanitarian reasons. "This is a moment to get rid of [Qaddafi]. Do it." On March 23, Gingrich decided that was a terrible idea: "The standard [Obama] has fallen back to of humanitarian intervention could apply to Sudan, to North Korea, to Zimbabwe, to Syria this week, to Yemen, to Bahrain. This isn't a serious standard. ... I would not have intervened. I think there were a lot of other ways to affect Qaddafi."

http://m.theatlanticwire.com/politic...ingrich/44900/

Aquila 11-12-2011 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Will Callista be the first FLOTUS who was sleeping with a married man? Great example for America. Next we will have two men as POTUS and FLOTUS. Our debate will be - Who is taking on the woman's role and who is taking on the man's? Downward spiral of our moral values.

Wa. The man sinned. It's been years, get over it. You'd vote against King David, because he'd not be a poster child of purity...but he'd be the greatest king ever.

Remember, Bathsheba saved Israel twice and secured the throne for her son Solomon. Don't be so squimish, life is often ugly....and good people sin.

Besides, we're electing a President not a pastor.

Aquila 11-12-2011 02:02 PM

Civil Liberties: Gingrich believes that the Supreme Court has become a constitutional convention and that they should leave the Constitution alone. Judges must understand our rights come from God, not the government.

Pressing-On 11-12-2011 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1113223)
Wa. The man sinned. It's been years, get over it. You'd vote against King David, because he'd not be a poster child of purity...but he'd be the greatest king ever.

Remember, Bathsheba saved Israel twice and secured the throne for her son Solomon. Don't be so squimish, life is often ugly....and good people sin.

Besides, we're electing a President not a pastor.

I'm just saying, at the end of the day, I'm not sure the Conservatives will be happy with the choice. If they are, and he gets the nomination, I will vote for him. But, he has never been my first choice.

Pressing-On 11-12-2011 02:04 PM

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News - Breaking News
Friday, Nov. 11, 2011
VIDEO: Rick Perry interview today in Columbia

Read more: http://www.thestate.com/2011/11/11/2...#ixzz1dWkvaOmE

Aquila 11-12-2011 02:04 PM

Newt received an M.A. in 1968, and then a PhD in modern European history from Tulane University in New Orleans in 1971.] His dissertation was entitled 'Belgian Education Policy in the Congo: 1945–1960'. While at Tulane, Gingrich, who at the time belonged to no religious group, began attending the St. Charles Avenue Baptist Church to pursue an interest in the effect of religion on political theory; he was soon baptized by Rev. G. Avery Lee.

Aquila 11-12-2011 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I'm just saying, at the end of the day, I'm not sure the Conservatives will be happy with the choice. If they are, and he gets the nomination, I will vote for him. But, he has never been my first choice.

Conservative ideologues aren't going to happy with any politician. Politics is the art of compromise. If conservatives ramrod their agenda down Americas throat, they are just as bad as the liberals. I think Newt is someone who can get things done, as he did under Clinton, a Democratic President. He has new and innovative ideas for a new century.

Newt's sin has humbled him. That's a virtue.

Michael The Disciple 11-12-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1113227)
Newt received an M.A. in 1968, and then a PhD in modern European history from Tulane University in New Orleans in 1971.] His dissertation was entitled 'Belgian Education Policy in the Congo: 1945–1960'. While at Tulane, Gingrich, who at the time belonged to no religious group, began attending the St. Charles Avenue Baptist Church to pursue an interest in the effect of religion on political theory; he was soon baptized by Rev. G. Avery Lee.

I read Newt converted to Catholicism because his wife is Catholic. If he is the nominee against Obama I will vote for him unless he blows it along the way.

Rick Santorum seems to be a good choice except one thing. He seems eager to use our Military to intervene in other nations.

Aquila 11-12-2011 02:27 PM

Newt would also rock Obama's world in any debate. Perry could be made to look stupid. He already gaffed in front of fellow Republicans. The pressure of the Obama Administration and hostile Democrats could very well make Perry's head spin, leaving him unable to remember his own name. lol

Pressing-On 11-12-2011 02:44 PM

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My last post and I will let it play itself out. If Gov. Perry doesn't win, I will be glad to keep him as my Governor. I have friends saying that if he doesn't win, they will be moving here. Welcome to Texas, ya'll. :highfive

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11/10/2011
Gingrich, Fannie and Freddie

“Fannie Mae is an excellent example of a former government institution fulfilling its mandate while functioning in the market economy,” Gingrich crowed, not quite accurately, for there was nothing “former” about Fannie Mae’s government status. “Fannie Mae has had a regional presence in Atlanta for over 40 years and the announcement of a partnership office demonstrates its continued commitment to affordable housing in the Atlanta metropolitan area.”

Gingrich was there for Fannie Mae again that April. A press release at the time stated: “House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) today joined representatives from the Fannie Mae, the Atlanta Neighborhood Development Partnership (ANDP) and area lenders and housing officials for the grand opening of the new Cobb Housing, Inc. headquarters.

But Gingrich has some explaining to do about his own role with regard to Fannie and Freddie. At the very least, by enlisting Gingrich as a “consultant,” Freddie managed to get a powerful critic of government mismanagement to provide his critiques privately, out of earshot of the public.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...w28M_blog.html

Dedicated Mind 11-12-2011 03:01 PM

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I agree with aquila that newt is the most intellectual. anyone else will be a breeze for Obama.

Hoovie 11-12-2011 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1113235)
I agree with aquila that newt is the most intellectual. anyone else will be a breeze for Obama.

I agree in part. Newt would shred Obama for sure, is not prone to Perry-like gaffes and totally understands the free market is the engine of the economy.


I would like a New/Cain ticket or perhaps even better a Newt/Rubio ticket

Aquila 11-12-2011 05:17 PM

What about a Newt/Romney ticket?

Sabby 11-12-2011 07:26 PM

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Gingrich is the only "insider" with real solutions; not only that, but when he detects a certain bias in the question, he attacks the bias. I'm not sure where he stands vis-a-vis abortion rights/pro-life. He is articulate and knows DC. One more outsider like W or Obama will not fix the mess we're in.
We aren't a theocracy (thank GOD!) and I'm not voting for pope or UPC Superintendent so his divorces don't bother me.

Sabby 11-12-2011 07:32 PM

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I think Cain got Palinized (or Quayled) and will never get the nomination now. I like his domestic agenda but he's pretty weak on foreign policy. I like Santorum, but he hasn't got a chance. Bachman trying to convince me that the US retirement system needs an overhaul to resemble Communist China's is downright laughable.
Perry is all over the board. I want to like him, but he's not been convincing enough for me. Huntsman, well, he would be a dark horse if anything.
Brings me back to Newt. He would debate Obama under the table, much like Reagan w/Carter and Mondale, only better, because he knows the system (I think) much better than Reagan personally did. If he can appear humble while doing it, he's a shoo in unless the Dems find an October surprise for him next year and try to Palinize him.

Pressing-On 11-12-2011 07:55 PM

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Governor Perry was awesome!!! He is just a great person! Love this exchange. It was the best! :thumbsup
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During Saturday night's foreign policy debate, Gov. Rick Perry (R-Texas) made light of his now famous misstep in the last Republican debate.

He praised Scott Pelley, the debate moderator, when he asked a question about the Department of Energy, the agency Perry forgot earlier this week.

“Glad you remembered it,” Perry said when asked what he would with nuclear material if the department was eliminated.

"I've had some time to think about it, sir," Pelley said.

"Me too," Perry shot back to applause from the crowd.

http://thehill.com/video/campaign/19...6ULLU.facebook

Pressing-On 11-12-2011 08:18 PM

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This is great. The first video is what happened after the "gaffe" debate. The second is, again, his excellent comment tonight. Love it! :thumbsup

Perry Takes a Page from The Gipper

http://www.nationaljournal.com/cbs-n...gEVeE.facebook

Pressing-On 11-12-2011 09:19 PM

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This would be Newt.

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Newt Gingrich Slept with the Enemy Part 2

It’s Saturday night, the CBS/National Journal debate just ended, and it’s time for another reality check.

http://campaigntrailreport.com/2011/...e-enemy-part-2

canam 11-13-2011 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1113235)
I agree with aquila that newt is the most intellectual. anyone else will be a breeze for Obama.

ROFLMBO obama aint no intelectual !!!!!


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