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Orthodoxy 11-29-2011 07:32 PM

Which Movie Is Better?
 
Interesting question... Ran across this post today on Eternity Bible College's Faculty Blog. What do you think?

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By Spencer MacCuish

So, my oldest daughter is rapidly approaching the age of 10. Which movie would you recommend she watch? (I know many of you would say she should watch neither and try to say that films are a waste of time…nice try, I am wise to your antics.)

Should she watch a movie that is laden with pretty foul language, and a marginal amount of implied violence, but that also has a powerful and unmistakable theme of redemption and the redemptive power of meaningful relationships?

http://facultyblog.eternitybiblecoll...-dvd-cover.jpg

Or

Should she watch a film which is intended for children that has no foul language, but is ultimately a story of an adolescent girl rebelling against her father, bartering her soul to evil, seducing a man, and ultimately getting what she wants?


http://facultyblog.eternitybiblecoll...le-mermaid.jpg

Which is more appropriate? Have at it….
See the original post and comments here.

RandyWayne 11-29-2011 07:36 PM

Re: Which Movie Is Better?
 
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Originally Posted by Orthodoxy (Post 1117017)
Interesting question... Stumbled across this post today on Eternity Bible College's Faculty Blog. What do you think?



See the original post and comments here.

Excellent question.

I would also add two more films.

Adult themes and foul language aplenty, yet guaranteed to not leave a dry eye in the room when done.
http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/pro...150.1020.A.jpg

Or.....

http://www.impawards.com/2001/poster...stone_ver2.jpg

Timmy 11-29-2011 07:43 PM

Re: Which Movie Is Better?
 
Why not throw a little tasteful nudity into the mix? :heeheehee

http://www.dramajoy.com/images/3/1/A...084_poster.jpg

Orthodoxy 11-29-2011 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1117018)
Excellent question.

I would also add two more films.

Adult themes and foul language aplenty, yet guaranteed to not leave a dry eye in the room when done.

Or.....

The second image in your post is not showing up for me... But for those who are wondering, it is Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. (I checked the HTML.)

RandyWayne 11-29-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1117020)
Why not throw a little tasteful nudity into the mix? :heeheehee

http://www.dramajoy.com/images/3/1/A...084_poster.jpg

...and who can resist the "terrific Beatles songs"!

Timmy 11-29-2011 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1117023)
...and who can resist the "terrific Beatles songs"!

:thumbsup

jfrog 11-29-2011 08:31 PM

Re: Which Movie Is Better?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orthodoxy (Post 1117017)
Interesting question... Ran across this post today on Eternity Bible College's Faculty Blog. What do you think?



See the original post and comments here.

The little mermaid has a plot that promotes rebellion and sin? Parts are almost alegorical with Christianity whether intended or not.

1. Girl rebels and gets herself into trouble that can't be undone (Adam and Eve's Fall).
2. The girls Father offers to exchange himself in place of her. (Jesus taking our punishment in our place).
3. The witches spell gets reversed and both her Father and her are free. (The resurrection of Jesus).
4. The girl now gets to live a new and changed life as a human instead of as a mermaid. (The new man that the Holy Spirit lets us become or perhaps its a picture of heaven).

...I guess The Little Mermaid really teaches alot of bad stuff afterall. Kind of like how the bible teaches rebelling from God is okay since God ultimately makes a way to save us from our mistakes and we still ultimately get what we want, heaven ;)

crakjak 11-29-2011 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1117018)
Excellent question.

I would also add two more films.

Adult themes and foul language aplenty, yet guaranteed to not leave a dry eye in the room when done.
http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/pro...150.1020.A.jpg

Or.....

http://www.impawards.com/2001/poster...stone_ver2.jpg

Grand Torino is really a very good movie. And the Harry Potter one isn't bad either, though the story line is predictable.

Neither is appropriate for young children, because their values and maturity is not far enough along.

Jay 11-29-2011 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1117035)
The little mermaid has a plot that promotes rebellion and sin? Parts are almost alegorical with Christianity whether intended or not.

1. Girl rebels and gets herself into trouble that can't be undone (Adam and Eve's Fall).
2. The girls Father offers to exchange himself in place of her. (Jesus taking our punishment in our place).
3. The witches spell gets reversed and both her Father and her are free. (The resurrection of Jesus).
4. The girl now gets to live a new and changed life as a human instead of as a mermaid. (The new man that the Holy Spirit lets us become or perhaps its a picture of heaven).

...I guess The Little Mermaid really teaches alot of bad stuff afterall. Kind of like how the bible teaches rebelling from God is okay since God ultimately makes a way to save us from our mistakes and we still ultimately get what we want, heaven ;)



I would say that is stretching the line more than a little bit. If you stretched it much tighter, you would be able to use it as a guitar string.

jfrog 11-29-2011 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1117066)
I would say that is stretching the line more than a little bit. If you stretched it much tighter, you would be able to use it as a guitar string.

I guess as long as you want to view the movie as only being about a rebellious girl who makes mistakes and faces no long term consequences for them then be my guest.... but just remember it isn't hard to dumb down Christianity's story to being about rebellious humans who make mistakes and face no long term consequences for them too.

Jay 11-29-2011 11:03 PM

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Hmmm, I have to disagree with you. I have a physical infirmity (muscular) that God has said that He will not heal. I have and will continue to live my life with it because of Adam's sin. Sin has had long term consequences for all of us. There are billions who are dead because of sin, and should the Lord tarry, trillions more will die.

RandyWayne 11-29-2011 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 1117065)
Grand Torino is really a very good movie. And the Harry Potter one isn't bad either, though the story line is predictable.

Neither is appropriate for young children, because their values and maturity is not far enough along.

Grand Torino is one of the best movies I've seen. The language in the movie was pretty bad but the message and overall theme was so good that I actually felt good after watching it.

jfrog 11-29-2011 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1117069)
Hmmm, I have to disagree with you. I have a physical infirmity (muscular) that God has said that He will not heal. I have and will continue to live my life with it because of Adam's sin. Sin has had long term consequences for all of us. There are billions who are dead because of sin, and should the Lord tarry, trillions more will die.

Someone missed the word LONGTERM. You see, even the little mermaid was imprisioned for a while to the evil witch (a temporary consequence for her mistake). So yes both humans and the little mermaid often have temporary consequences for their actions.

Jay 11-29-2011 11:19 PM

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I would say that the consequences of sin are incredibly long term. In fact they are both final and fatal, which is not shown in that movie.

jfrog 11-29-2011 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1117077)
I would say that the consequences of sin are incredibly long term. In fact they are both final and fatal, which is not shown in that movie.

Because her savior saved her by taking her place!!! Our savior saved us by taking our place too ya know? And because of that even though we have made mistakes those consequences are not long term but short term. They are incredibly short term... only this lifetime and not all eternity.

jfrog 11-29-2011 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1117077)
I would say that the consequences of sin are incredibly long term. In fact they are both final and fatal, which is not shown in that movie.

Further, the consequences for the mermaids mistake were very long term in the movie. She was to belong to the evil witch forever... Thankfully she had a savior. Sounds kind of like us. We were to belong to Satan forever but thankfully we had a savior ;)

Jay 11-29-2011 11:42 PM

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As I said, I find drawing analogies from Hollywood is a far greater stretch than I care to attempt. Most people would not find the comparison in the movie.

Dagwood 11-30-2011 05:37 AM

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I have a 7 y/o and 4 y/o. Since I'm 100% against foul language and rebellion, neither movie would be suitable. HOWEVER, to bring it down to a child's level, I would choose Little Mermaid since, as I said, it would be more to their level of understanding and not spew the foul language. They already hear enough of that outside the home as it is...

Someone mentioned Harry Potter. Both of my children love watchinig those, and my oldest has a full understanding of the moral of the story; the youngest loves watching it for all the action.

If we ever have any question about a movie prior to its release or before we take my girls to watch it, we generally pull up http://www.christiananswers.net/spotlight/ or http://www.pluggedin.com/; The first one is generally more detailed than the second and have found it to be very useful...

crakjak 11-30-2011 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagwood (Post 1117100)
I have a 7 y/o and 4 y/o. Since I'm 100% against foul language and rebellion, neither movie would be suitable. HOWEVER, to bring it down to a child's level, I would choose Little Mermaid since, as I said, it would be more to their level of understanding and not spew the foul language. They already hear enough of that outside the home as it is...

Someone mentioned Harry Potter. Both of my children love watchinig those, and my oldest has a full understanding of the moral of the story; the youngest loves watching it for all the action.

If we ever have any question about a movie prior to its release or before we take my girls to watch it, we generally pull up http://www.christiananswers.net/spotlight/ or http://www.pluggedin.com/; The first one is generally more detailed than the second and have found it to be very useful...

I was not interested in the Harry Potter movies until my son told me that they were similar to Lord of the Rings. So, we have started watching the series, will be on the third one next. The story lines are kind of predictable, but they are fun to watch. They have to watched as fantasy and not taken too seriously. The special effects and the creativity is awesome.

Cindy 11-30-2011 07:38 AM

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Y'all are going to hell. Just sayin.

crakjak 11-30-2011 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1117120)
Y'all are going to hell. Just sayin.

You may know my understanding of "hell", so you know I'm not scared!!! LOL

Dagwood 11-30-2011 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1117120)
Y'all are going to hell. Just sayin.

Looks like you'll be joining us too...

JUST SAYIN!!!

:nahnah

Just kidding... :lol

RandyWayne 11-30-2011 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 1117117)
I was not interested in the Harry Potter movies until my son told me that they were similar to Lord of the Rings. So, we have started watching the series, will be on the third one next. The story lines are kind of predictable, but they are fun to watch. They have to watched as fantasy and not taken too seriously. The special effects and the creativity is awesome.

Having seen the first 4 movies years ago (and then stopping), we picked up the 8 movie Blue Ray box set and plan on watching all 8 one of these weekends -or more likely, over several weekends.

And I wouldn't say they are anything like Lord Of the Rings.

Timmy 11-30-2011 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1117069)
Hmmm, I have to disagree with you. I have a physical infirmity (muscular) that God has said that He will not heal. I have and will continue to live my life with it because of Adam's sin. Sin has had long term consequences for all of us. There are billions who are dead because of sin, and should the Lord tarry, trillions more will die.

A few decades is not long term, in the Christian doctrinal view. And the ones who die in sin are not the ones the frog is talking about. He's talking about Christians, who will (they believe) not be punished in the afterlife for anything they have done in this life.

Timmy 11-30-2011 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagwood (Post 1117100)
I have a 7 y/o and 4 y/o. Since I'm 100% against foul language and rebellion, neither movie would be suitable. ...

Huh? 100% against rebellion? I guess you're not a patriotic American, then. :lol

crakjak 11-30-2011 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1117123)
Having seen the first 4 movies years ago (and then stopping), we picked up the 8 movie Blue Ray box set and plan on watching all 8 one of these weekends -or more likely, over several weekends.

And I wouldn't say they are anything like Lord Of the Rings.

They have some similarity, in the mythism and drama, I really liked the Rings, my opinion of the HP's is still incomplete.

Cindy 11-30-2011 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 1117121)
You may know my understanding of "hell", so you know I'm not scared!!! LOL

:D

Cindy 11-30-2011 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1117130)
Huh? 100% against rebellion? I guess you're not a patriotic American, then. :lol

:highfive

Cindy 11-30-2011 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagwood (Post 1117122)
Looks like you'll be joining us too...

JUST SAYIN!!!

:nahnah

Just kidding... :lol

:icecream

Dagwood 11-30-2011 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1117130)
Huh? 100% against rebellion? I guess you're not a patriotic American, then. :lol

Good one, sir Timmy, good one... :thumbsup

If my kids we older, like 10, I'd probably be a little more willing to let them watch GWH; obviously, they'd be older and more mature, and probably understand the plot much better...

I think the only foul language (if that's even what one would call it) in Harry Potter is "bloody hell." Until my kids use it, or they ask what it means, "bloody hell" won't bother me in the least compared to other, more common words and phrases...

Timmy 11-30-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagwood (Post 1117142)
Good one, sir Timmy, good one... :thumbsup

If my kids we older, like 10, I'd probably be a little more willing to let them watch GWH; obviously, they'd be older and more mature, and probably understand the plot much better...

I think the only foul language (if that's even what one would call it) in Harry Potter is "bloody hell." Until my kids use it, or they ask what it means, "bloody hell" won't bother me in the least compared to other, more common words and phrases...

Egad!

(Like that, you mean? ;))

Bishop Cleatus 11-30-2011 10:44 AM

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I recommend everyone read Hunger Games before the first movie comes out in March. I gotta say - I really enjoyed that book series, and think it is a good series for young teen girls.

I'm a fan of most all of the movies mentioned. But I will admit that the Disney stuff can seem deceptively light when you look at the cover, but they often deal with some pretty disturbing events and themes. My daughter saw Tangled when she was 4, and was really upset (understandably) that the main character was kidnapped and taken from her parents for so long. She much prefers older Disney movies like Mary Poppins.

By the way, I highly recommend the new Muppet movie. My daughter really liked it, and I loved them as a kid.

Scott Hutchinson 11-30-2011 11:41 AM

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How about this one ?
http://www.jesusfilm.org/film-and-media

Timmy 11-30-2011 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 1117196)

Did you see how many languages it's in? Wow! Is it a new record?

Scott Hutchinson 11-30-2011 11:43 AM

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Yes I know.

rambof07 01-25-2013 05:00 AM

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All above given movies are my favorite movies. I liked all movies and seen already. Interesting stories with best cinematography which can attract anyone easily.


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