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Amanah 12-07-2011 11:06 AM

Don't forget Kwanzaa!
 
http://www.apples4theteacher.com/hol...zaa/about.html

About Kwanzaa
Kwanzaa, or "First Fruits of the Harvest," is an African-American and Pan-Africian holiday which celebrates and strengthens community, family and culture over a period of seven days. Kwanzaa begins December 26th. Each day, a principle of Kwanzaa is celebrated:

The Seven Principles
Date Principle in English Principle in Swahili
December 26 Unity Umoja
December 27 Self-Determination Kujichagulia
December 28 Collective Work & Responsibility Ujima
December 29 Cooperative Economics Ujamaa
December 30 Purpose Nia
December 31 Creativity Kuumba
January 1 Faith Imani

Sam 12-07-2011 11:46 PM

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And, of course, don't forget Hanukkah and the great victory and miracles that happened back then.

Aquila 12-08-2011 06:43 AM

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I've never really studied Kwanzaa. Can a Christian celebrate Kwanzaa? It sounds like a cultural holiday focused on philosophical ethics that could be compatible with one's faith as a Christian.

Is Kwanzaa cool?

Amanah 12-08-2011 06:57 AM

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I'm thinking that while we should respect Kwanzaa followers, we are best to stick to the pagan holidays we are more familiar with, ie Christmas.

Digging4Truth 12-08-2011 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1118962)
I'm thinking that while we should respect Kwanzaa followers, we are best to stick to the pagan holidays we are more familiar with, ie Christmas.

LOL... That's funny.

But... concerning the opening post... I don't even celebrate Christmas... why on earth would I remember Kwanzaa?

Aquila 12-08-2011 07:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1118962)
I'm thinking that while we should respect Kwanzaa followers, we are best to stick to the pagan holidays we are more familiar with, ie Christmas.

LOL

houston 12-08-2011 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1118963)
LOL... That's funny.

But... concerning the opening post... I don't even celebrate Christmas... why on earth would I remember Kwanzaa?

Amen!

Timmy 12-08-2011 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1118963)
LOL... That's funny.

But... concerning the opening post... I don't even celebrate Christmas... why on earth would I remember Kwanzaa?

Do you observe any holidays at all?

Digging4Truth 12-08-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1119060)
Do you observe any holidays at all?

I don't observe Christmas at all... for about 14 years now. Is that what you are asking?

houston 12-08-2011 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1119068)
I don't observe Christmas at all... for about 14 years now. Is that what you are asking?

that is not what he is asking

Timmy 12-08-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1119068)
I don't observe Christmas at all... for about 14 years now. Is that what you are asking?

I'm asking about all holidays. Are the any others that you observe?

Digging4Truth 12-08-2011 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1119073)
I'm asking about all holidays. Are the any others that you observe?

Not really. Easter is also a pagan holiday. If we wanted to remember Christs death we should do it at Passover since that's when he died.

Aquila 12-08-2011 11:31 AM

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Ya know... if I didn't have kids... I think it would be peaceful to not celebrate all these crazy holidays.

Timmy 12-08-2011 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1119078)
Not really. Easter is also a pagan holiday. If we wanted to remember Christs death we should do it at Passover since that's when he died.

4th of July?

Digging4Truth 12-08-2011 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1119098)
4th of July?

I worry myself with what affects my worship on the holiday issue. We don't generally do anything different on the 4th of July other than be off work. But that is largely because we just don't get all worked up over symbolism.

On the 4th of July I am most like to be found working on my chickens' pen or on my house than anything else.

Timmy 12-08-2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1119111)
I worry myself with what affects my worship on the holiday issue. We don't generally do anything different on the 4th of July other than be off work. But that is largely because we just don't get all worked up over symbolism.

On the 4th of July I am most like to be found working on my chickens' pen or on my house than anything else.

OK, how about Groundhog Day? :lol

Digging4Truth 12-08-2011 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1119115)
OK, how about Groundhog Day? :lol

Yes... on Groundhog Day I busy myself doing all I can to avoid the ignorance of Punxsutawney Phil. That is my main goal on groundhogs day.

Timmy 12-08-2011 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1119118)
Yes... on Groundhog Day I busy myself doing all I can to avoid the ignorance of Punxsutawney Phil. That is my main goal on groundhogs day.

:lol

RandyWayne 12-08-2011 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1119115)
OK, how about Groundhog Day? :lol

I usually practice my ice carving, piano playing, card tossing, and doctoring skills.

Timmy 12-08-2011 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1119123)
I usually practice my ice carving, piano playing, card tossing, and doctoring skills.

:thumbsup

llambert 12-08-2011 02:19 PM

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I don't celebrate Christmas, Easter or any of the other religious holidays either. These days were not revered by the apostles, nor did Jesus ever make mention or even suggest that we honor his or else's birth day. I think celebrating birthdays, Mother's Day, Father's Day, Labor Day, Chinese New Year etc. are cultural things (do it if you want, but no one should be feel obligated to do so).

Digging4Truth is right- all these holidays are unbiblical. But let everyone be fully persuaded in his/her own mind because this can be a contentious topic and people do seem to feel left out or whatnot if they aren't celebrating like most other people. There's a ton of emotion around this sort of thing.

I live in a major metropolitan, multicultural city (NYC) and people are studying their comparative religions. People who are outside of Christianity know a lot more about the roots of these festivals and holidays than some people who are regular churchgoers.

I think it's good for families and/or friends to be thankful every day and have family reunions and give gifts (of course don't go into debt and don't overeat), but to say that any of these festivals has anything to do with Jesus is not really accurate.

It's funny though, that so very few of the church organizations that teach the Oneness of God really expound on the truth about the pagan holidays. One of the only organizations on a whole that I know of that does so is True Jesus Church:

http://www.tjc.org/showArticle.aspx?aid=7219 (although they have some interesting ideas about the sabbath and water baptism in living water)
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Michael The Disciple 12-08-2011 02:21 PM

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No Christmas since 1975. Dont miss it tho Christmas SONGS do make an open door for school children to hear of Jesus. That is IF they still do that in school.

BeenThinkin 12-08-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1119118)
Yes... on Groundhog Day I busy myself doing all I can to avoid the ignorance of Punxsutawney Phil. That is my main goal on groundhogs day.


I heard that you got up, went outside...and if you saw your shadow you went back in and went back to bed! ???

Been Thinkin

Timmy 12-08-2011 02:28 PM

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Not observing Christmas is fine. As long as you don't tell anyone else not to. Colossians 2:16. :D

Timmy 12-08-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1119148)
Not observing Christmas is fine. As long as you don't tell anyone else not to. Colossians 2:16. :D

Oh wait, I got that backwards. People are told not to allow others to judge them. :thumbsup

RandyWayne 12-08-2011 02:45 PM

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I love Christmas myself and expect all my neighbors too as well. :)

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...ffc77ebfa98872

Timmy 12-08-2011 03:23 PM

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