Spit it all out.
 

Just spit it all out…

I’ve heard the phrase forever… and so have you. You know, “eat the chicken; spit out the bones” but there’s something sketchy about it.
I know that people are trying to say ‘you can find the good in anything’ or ‘yeah there might be some stuff in there that’s bad but it’s mostly good so that’s fine.’
I never used to worry about it but lately, particularly as it pertains to the prophetic movement or just teaching in general, eating the chicken and spitting out the bones just doesn’t cut it anymore. Why? Because it’s the meat that’s tainted, pilgrim, not the bones! There’s nothing really wrong with the bones actually – it’s the meat. Oh you might choke on an occasional bone, but the meat is what you’re digesting into your system.
I think the cliché is a lazy man’s way of avoiding thinking altogether. You listen to a preacher go off on his favorite topic and you don’t even really think about what he is saying, or how he misquotes or misuses scripture (it was probably just that once anyway). Danger, danger, danger!
Think about what you are taking into your system. Think about who is speaking into your life. Think about whether you really trust them to lead you into all truth. Some teachers are teaching that you can live a conflict-free Christian life. That is hogwash Biblically yet millions are buying in. Guess what: We are meant to have conflict here; it shapes us and conforms us into his image. Jesus had conflict. Paul had conflict; Peter had conflict; John – well all the disciples really. David, Moses, Gideon, Abraham, conflicts and problems. In addition church history proves it out as well. Conflict, sufferings, struggles, harsh circumstances, pressures. Even Adam back in the Garden of Eden under PERFECT conditions had a struggle — with loneliness, an empty place inside, frustration that there was no one to meet his needs. And so God answers with Eve, right? No. Not right away anyway. God sees the need that it is not good for man to be alone, then he gets him to name the animals. That was not an afternoon job with a chai tea latte in your hand. This took time as God made Adam wait and intensified the problem at the same time. Conflict, struggle etc brings out the best in us, and the worse – that’s why we are to consider it all joy when we go through them. It produces something in us – hope via character, and perseverance.
Or take the prosperity Gospel for example where you are taught that if you follow God’s way (usually through the particular teacher’s way as well) wealth is sure to come your way. There’s only one problem with the prosperity Gospel – it’s called THE BIBLE! So why do you sit and listen to it all and think you are discerning enough to really ‘spit out the bones’ from your spirit that soaks it up like a sponge? Turn away from these false teachers; turn the tv off, turn off the CD – just do it.
“But,” you doth protest… “he tells some really good stories — really good jokes so I’m just going to eat the chicken and spit out the bones.”
What about the long term good of your soul? Be discerning.
I read a story about a father that was trying to persuade his teenage kids to turn away from some of the things they were indulging in. Their argument was always ‘it’s not that much, really.”
So he made muffins for them for breakfast, wonderful tasty muffins, except that he added an unusual ingredient… dog poo. But not that much really.
When he told the kids they were shocked and grossed out, and refused to touch them.
“But why not?” the Father said, “there’s really not much poo in them! Just a bit!”
They got the picture.
So, word of advice: stop eating the poisoned meat altogether. A little bit of yeast leavens the whole dough.

Any comments?

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And why not throw the baby out with the bathwater? (If the baby's evil or something. :lol)

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All I know is that I am AGAINST dog poo in muffins. Is that the question? ;)

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If the baby is named Damien, I think that is the right call.

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The bones today:

Trinity
Only believe
No need to be perfect before Christ
Pre trib and Preterism
Immortal soul
Go to hell for trimming hair, wearing beard

Some of the worse.

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We have way worse than that for reasons one can/will go to hell, here are just a few of the more fun ones:

Go to hell for wearing a wedding ring.
Go to hell for not wearing pantyhose in 108 degree weather (but if you have made a few good attempts to comply hell will not seem as hot)
Go to hell for showing elbows (who is turned on by elbows?)
If a man, go to hell for showing calves/ankles (OK if a woman)
Go to hell for wearing hair bows or barrets that are not the same color as hair.
Go to hell for wearing hair down.
Go to hell for missing service, taking a vacation, making major purchases (home, car), fellowshiping foliks from other churches, etc. without pastors permission.
Go to hell for looking at TV on in a public place.
Go to hell for robbing God's tithe for charitable works, missions, etc.
Go to hell for failing to 'worship' which means running, jumping, leaping, screaming, pew walking, frantic dancing, twirling like a top, becoming apoplectic, screaming in tongues, shouting down hair, crying uncontrollably, crawling across the sanctuary, slithering on belly, rolling on the floor (reverence and dignity are now sins!).

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Can one be?

Can you show me someone?

Anyone?

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What ever happened to the simplicity of Christ?

¶Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. (Matthew 11:28-30)

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religion is a mess, isn't it?

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Only if you look sexy doing it, like me!

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...yclesmiley.jpg

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Good question! Any guesses?

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Yes very much, that's the bad news... but the good news is that God is not.

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HA! Amen. I avoid it at all costs : )

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Wow-ty God, for Your shelter-really? I am just stopped completely, trying to imagine how a congregation could get so sideways.

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(on "being perfect" before Christ)
Hmm; I bet you'd have a tough time pointing to a recent sin of Ghandi's, perhaps. Of course, the point there was "not even trying," yes? Discounting works?

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Is that according to scripture?

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/201/47...b87b688483.jpg

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You mean all the false religions, don't you? The one true religion is perfect. Isn't it?

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I don't see any cleavage or butt cheeks... In my world, you're all good. :)

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Thank God!:yourock

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Which religion is that? "One true religion" is an oxymoron. "Religion" is "man's attempt to reach God," which has nothing to do with following Christ, that I can see. Christ had no interest in bringing you a new religion, although He knew that's what would happen. All religions are "false," and I can back this up with scripture.
Your religion just happens to be the worst, that's all. It's my religion too, or was, so don't take it personally.

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Religion has ALWAYS been a mess - the Pharisees' religion is what JESUS had the most trouble with while he was here on earth, and they were the ones who eventually crucified Him!

Why should we think it is any different now, or ever will be?

Unless one has their focus on Jesus, their "religion" will never save them.

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Yes, please.
I think I have a better case for saying my "religion" (agnosticism) isn't really a religion than you do. Your definition ("man's attempt...") isn't the standard definition. It's not real English. And "worst" is a matter of opinion. ;)

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Ah, well, my understanding is that "religion" is defined as "man's attempt to reach God"? Let's get a mutually acceptable def here before we move on, ok? Give me your def of "religion"?

I'd agree that Agnosticism is not a religion; sorry, I assumed you were claiming Christianity. ("One true religion")

I'll dig you up some quotes from Christ to back this up, but you have to know, any way you define "religion," it's going to end up being "traditions of men," yes? And you say "worst" is a matter of opinion; I'm basing that strictly on amount of death generated. We have "preachers," right here on this site, who call themselves "Christian," busily accusing and condemning to hell other Christians! (A hundred cookies says he doesn't even know when hell is.)

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Here's what most people mean, when they use the word, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion:

re·li·gion
   /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Show Spelled[ri-lij-uhn] Show IPA
noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

You have a set of beliefs. They may be true and correct, and it may be the only true and correct set in use, from among the many to choose from, but it is a set of beliefs, and it is a religion, by that definition.

Actually, it kinda does fit the definition. Call it a religion, if you'd like. ;)

Well, yes, any set of beliefs (even yours) comes from men. Choosing the canon was a human activity (though some choices of canon may have been directed by God, such as the Ethiopian canon or the KJV -- before or after removing the Apocrypha -- but we have no way of knowing which, if any, was). Writing books is a human activity (again, perhaps directed by God). Preaching and teaching, interpreting the Bible, prophesying, etc. All human. To say that some of these human activities were directed by God doesn't change that.

Don't ya hate when that happens? :lol

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Ah ok, i'm pretty good with that def; although I guess I'm seeing "religion" as when your beliefs become dogmatized, no longer open to illumination...

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Well, it's true, that happens to some folks. ;)

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Religion is a mess, causing blindness and deceit of the worse kind. When people truly step back from the bondage of Religion, the experience can be crushing. Paul faced persecution to the point of losing his life for leaving his “Faith” behind.

For a person to de-program from Religion, they will face ridicule, gossip, and hatred from people who once loved them.

When the Pulpit turns angry against those who leave a specific Faith, the rage can be daunting! Divorce, depression, confusion, and many other mental and physical outcomes are the result of people who found God in a category that defies the shallows of a Religious order.

People are even known to move to another town, so as to avoid the constant barrage of "eyes" that wander at stores, restaurants, and other public places where the "spies" of Faith seek to find fault.

I've asked this question numerous times on this Forum; if the Bible is so clear, why are there over 30,000 Christian Denominations (Religions) on our Planet? It is more than obvious; no one has a take on God. We are all seeking, but many answers will only be found when we die.

Religions have one common denominator; they use “Ultimatums”. In other words, they have the absolute answer. This, in my opinion, is the most dangerous sign to look for. If you don’t believe me, just try asking questions that have no solid answer. The greatest Cults on Earth are driven by ultimatums that have no ability to stand the test of History, Science, and most of all, Mercy.

I think all of us need to ask this one question; can you earn Mercy? Can you buy it? Is Mercy deserved? Religion puts a price on everything, but God knows that none of us could ever be good enough, and that is why Mercy settles the score, destroying the Faith of false ultimatums.

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Awesome. To me the word "denominate" and God are anathema; one's "denomination" signifies "wall" to me.

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Excellent point! I would venture to say, most Denominations start out well intentioned. But as time prevails, the bar of goodness is raised as people begin to fail, while the Walls grow higher.

Before long, clicks develop and the off-shoots begin, and the Wars of Faith are started. Hatred, murder, and false accusation follow this vain pursuit of Righteousness (this is why Stephen was stoned to death by people enraged with utter madness).

I'm so thankful that Jesus never endorsed ANY Denomination.

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Okay.

:spit