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Is God really in a woman falling "out in the spirit" and exposing her body as she does so?

Are there Biblical examples of the modesty covers that are used in many of the Pentecostal/Apostolic churches to cover the ladies?

Now ladies don't get mad at me for asking. Just wondering if God would really cause a lady to conduct herself in such a way as to show her body to those around her? How do you explain it?

Been Thinkin

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God is just has much in that as He is in two knuckle heads running around the church and colliding right in front of the podium.

One with a bloody cut to the head and a concussion.

Woooo Hoooooo Glory to God

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At most it may be viewed as a response to God or the Holy Spirit...

I would not blame God.

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Long answer:

I am not a fan of out of control antics, tongues screamed out without interpretation, endless blabbering all through service, shouting down ones hair by frantically shaking ones head...

We go to church with a few people who are so ridiculous we have nicknamed them. The penguin, pogo stick, exit stage left, whirly, screaming meme, goldielocks, and exhibitionist annie. There is not a person in the church who if they ever overheard those names would not know exactly who we were talking about.

I think the problem you mention is the one that belongs to annie... even as a woman I do not desire to know what color another ladies panties are in nearly every service.

Short answer:

Yes I think it is unseemly but I'm an old prude.

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Do you have someone when they pray/worship is actually annoying?

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Bwahahaha! Your description is funny.

Not funny that they were hurt, but I have never been in a service where people shouted and got hurt...and we've had some wild services before. Nobody got hurt.

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I knew I was liking your posts for some reason! :thumbsup

Been Thinkin

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When I went to UPC, like I posted earlier, nobody got hurt. However, occasionally a lady would "fall out" and expose her legs. Someone from the rest of the lady crowd would find a blanket or coat and cover the exposed parts. That is a "love courtesy" from our sisters.

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I know of a fellow that busted right thru a sheetrocked wall in the sanctuary.

I visited a church once that the ones who were "spiritually touched" felt the need to demonstrate their superiortry by running the backs of the pews.

The pews anchors were all busted out of the floor from this.

Some of the antics I've seen borders on idiocy, the border of idiocy is of course ignorance.

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I was UPC too and have seen a lot go on that I just questioned as whether it was of God.

I remember one General Conference, held in the large convention center in another state. One of the "runners" from Louisiana didn't realize how high up he was up in the convention center and how far around it was. He took off running and by the time he got back his tongue was hanging out. God forgot to give him some extra oxygen! lol


Been Thinkin

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Some of this stuff is really funny! Busting through a sheetrock wall in the Sanctuary? :toofunny Yeah...I would wonder if this really was of God or what?

God is not reckless and the Holy Spirit would never be the cause of someone getting hurt. I really see no credible reason that anybody should run the backs of the pews. They can accomplish their shouting running the aisles?

While dancing is common, I must admit that the first time I ever seen somebody dance...I cracked up laughing....still do remember it over 30 years later. But then one time I danced...it's as if my feet had a life all of their own...I'm sure somebody cracked up at me dancing. :lol

What's really funny is somebody laughing their lungs out. Ever been in one of those services?

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Seriously, where do y'all go to church?

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Yep...years ago. The pastor would tell the congregation that he felt that "holy laugh" trying to come on the congregation.

Sho nuf, one would start cackling, then another then another till the majority were falling out on the floor laughing.

I would not waste five minutes with a mess like that today. Thank God for the blood and sound doctrine, Apostolic doctrine.

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All the scenarios I've mentioned happened in a UPCI Church system.

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I never saw the extreme cases but certainly saw lots of demonstration of the "spirit".

I doubt God would cause injuries or unseemly exposure.

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YOU hit the nail on the head!!

I don't believe the Holy Ghost needs to work by having people uncovering themselves at all. Just isn't right. Something is wrong for sure.

If it is an accidental thing, that's one thing. But, on a regular basis - something else totally has gone wrong!

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Well, I've seen in AMF, ACI, and UPC churches.

In one service, a lady I know broke her arm when the church was having its dedication service in the new building. All kinds of dignitaries present in teh service from the UPC. She got so excited going around the jericho that she forgot there was a wall there, and tried to make a door.... she lost... ;)

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I have heard some funny ones too. However, many of them involved people who were not in the Spirit wanting to fake that they were in the Spirit. Some of them just needed to learn simple lessons like, slow down on the corner, run with eyes open (funny how so many need that lesson), run in the same direction (I never saw anyone hurt by disobeying this one, but they quickly started running in the same direction as the rest of the church), get out of the way of a Sister's braid/ponytail!! I do not know that I ever saw anyone injured in a worship service.

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I think a woman should dress modestly to church,so if they get slain the spirit they will be covered up.

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Ya, except no amount of clothing can cover up stupidity.

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I do believe people get slain the Spirit,however if someone is in the Spirit everything will be done decently and in order. The Holy Ghost gets blamed for alot of things that it has nothing to do with.

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I think some people are slain by themselves.
But not all.

Are you saying the Spirit sometimes does not do things decently and in order????

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The Holy Spirit is a perfect gentleman,now He does things that don't fit religious mindsets,but He doesn't do anything lewd or obscene or cause anyone to hurt themselves.

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I used to think that SOME did, but now I am not even sure about that. It is such a common occurrence with ANY religious experience that to say "well, in SOME cases it is legit!" is like saying "well, there are so many thousand unsolved murders in LA every year, how do we know that SOME of them aren't caused by extraterrestrials?".

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I am ashmed to call myself a moderate liberal as I do not want to be numbered with many of you.

It's fine to express opinions and differences. But to make fun of a persons expression of praise to God and to make names for people is not right.

Most of us did some of the things described. Not everyone is going to leave the trappings of classical pentecostalism. Those of us that are walking in liberty, are we better than those that we left behind? Or do we look down on the brethren because they are not as enlightened as we claim to be? Why do we accuse them of casting judgement when we do the same?

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I believe in speaking in tongues and in the Power of GOD,but where in the Bible does it talk about anyone falling out in the Spirit?,or getting slain in the Spirit?.I see nothing wrong with some one dancing in the Spirit for David danced before the LORD with all his might.But i don't know about running around the church,or walking on the pews.Where is that at in The Word of GOD?
I think alot of the time people get emotions confused with worship, worship is from the heart.We worship GOD because HE is worthy and because we love HIM,not to be seen.

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Because the Bible never says that there was a "she" before Adam. There was a Holy Ghost before Adam because it all exists in Christ.

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Between your avatar and what you actually typed, I laughed so hard!

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My apologies if I offended you houston. Not intending to offend anybody.

However, I've been in some services where the Holy Ghost was so thick just before everybody yielded that it was almost like an explosion where people just took off running and jumping. But reading here where they almost busted through sheet rock walls, pulling the anchors out of the pews, smacking face first into each other....well, I've never seen people hurt themselves like that to a point of concussion in a service where the Holy Ghost fell.

We laugh at cartoons that depict such scenarios. I just never seen people get hurt.

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Houston please understand, I am not poking fun at anyone's worship. I have cried at the altar until I am sure I had snot running out of my nose and couldn't have cared less. I have leaped in joy and danced in the spirit.

What I am talking about is choreographed moves that one can come to predict. Unseemly things, like exposing too much flesh, screaming out at inappropriate times, disrupting the service. The bible tells me that these are NOT the things of God and so does my own Holy Ghost.

The names were strictly between me and my husband. We are one flesh and I do not believe that speaking anything to him that I have thought is sin unless thinking it was sin anyway and then I am better off to share so that he can help me back on track. We were not ever making fun of anyone with others.

God has instructed me to be discerning and so I try and while I spend a lot of time in the altars I will not spend my time with someone who is putting on an academy award performance for their own and others entertainment.

I am deeply sorry if you were offended by my sharing my experiences here.

Peace to you.

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There is only one instance where I will openly laugh at those "worshipping" and that is when I see young(er) single guys running back and forth at the alter while the preacher is preaching -I've seen this multiple times while Lee Stoneking was going at it. This is nothing more than the official Apostolic Mating Dance and it's sole purpose is to woo the other single young Sheila's in the audience and show them all big, strong, and super spiritual they are.

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Then, there are those like this Baptist church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLmjVDQMQUs

One "falls" in the baptistery and one throws his coat at the worship leader!

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whatevah

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Baptist? REALLY???

The last SBC church we attended almost fired their new preacher because his wife lifted her hands during worship.... They thought is was 'too charismatic'. LOL!

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I was surprised too - - says it's Faith Baptist in Smyrna Delaware. Bro. Earl Hughes.

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I have been "slain" in the Spirit a few times - just times when I could not physically stand anymore in the presence of God and was literally laying on the floor nearly paralyzed for a time. Those have been sweet refreshing times to me. The only way I can explain it to someone is that sometimes your physical body is unable to contain the power that comes from God.

However, I have also seen a lot of people do a "CD" (Courtesy Drop), just because it was expected of them. I was even in one service where they told everyone to fall when they were prayed for, as that was how God was going to work on them - when they were on the floor. That was way too "out there" and Charismatic for me. Lol!

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There Is Wisdom Here.

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The only ones that I have ever heard get hurt were those who were putting on a show. I heard a story about a lady of the church who was in the Spirit, and a man started to run the aisles who had not the slightest interest in true worship. She had her eyes closed and commenced rotating where she was at the back of the sanctuary. I was told that the man caught it in the chin and went down for the count.

I have also heard of actions occuring in worship that should have induced injury, but because it was done in the Spirit, no injury occured. I was told after service on night that I was standing on the head of one of the brethern as he was layed out in the Spirit. I was also told that I had kicked him repeatedly. Neither of us knew anything about it, and he suffered no ill effects.

And what glory were you giving God by kicking the brothern?