Did Men live 900 years?
 

If a person were to live 900 years, I see a series of problems that people don’t consider;

1. How long is adolescence? 18 years? 180 years? This means children go through, say puberty, for 50 years?

2. How long does a woman bear children? 400 years? Could her body stand this stress, and, how many children would be in one family?

3. How large would the 500 year Family Reunion be?

4. Under current statistics, Divorce is higher today because people live longer. Imagine trying to be married to one person for Centuries, not Decades.

5. If maturity were the same as today, and living an extra 800 years followed, would a man or woman find life a complete bore?

6. Imagine the Biography of a 900 year old man. Is there a book or record available that contains the experiences of such a person?

7. How long would a person remain, “Elderly”? Today, the extreme pain and sickness of those who are old would be extended into a Century or longer.

8. Why doesn’t the Bible validate these extended lives with historical evidence that they lived this long (family tree, experiences, years of events, calendars that support long life).

9. Does the human emotional and physical makeup allow for 800 extra years of being alive? As most of us will admit, after the struggles of living 50-100 years, we’re ready to move on from this life.

10. Imagine accidents and injury; many of us enter the final stage of life very sore and handicapped from working, or being involved in such things as car accidents, falling, or injuries from employment. This includes working and driving in the safe environments of modern society.

Did people really live 900 years?

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I was thinking about ths earlier this week. The problem with saying, "No" is obvious.

Talk about a slippery slope!

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Another round of faith destroying attacks on scripture. Satan loves these and promotes them knowing that many believers will be wounded and fall away.

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I fully believe that people lived LONG life spans in the beginning of mankind. And yes, it is hard to imagine some things that they went through based on our own experiences such as marriages and my personal favorite, memories. Does a man six hundred years old have the same recollection of things when he was 200 as a man today who is 60 trying to remember things when he was 15?

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The only reason I believe is because the Bible says it.

I can't rationalize it, can't figure it out and can't explain it. This question is similar to, "Where did Cain get his wife from."

I don't know-- I'm just glad that most of the women of my day don't look like they are first cousins to an ape!

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Well, Cain's wife was his sister (or even niece). There is not an issue with this because the genetic pool was so new and non spoiled that it would not cause problems for people who were very closely related to produce offspring. This is also the reason they lived so long, at least for a few generations.

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I never have really bought this...doesn't the Bible say that Cain got his wife east of the Euphrates? I don't think we started incestually, I'm pretty sure this has been largely disproved? Bottlenecks are traceable in the DNA, or something?

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Bottlenecks ARE traceable and they show all men going through one women (Eve) about 20-50 thousand years ago and again, through one man (Noah) about 10-20 thousand years ago.

And did God create more then one man and woman? If not there was no choice but for sibling to marry sibling.

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I've seen this explained as creation of the Adamic race, separate from the other races, which explains a lot; jury's swaying that way...

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There is no evidence for a "Adamic" race just as there is no evidence for a steady-state universe JUST AS their is NO evidence for a hollow Earth.

On a side note there is a tiny bit of evidence for man interbreeding with neanderthal.

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What about the Nephilim? Any possibility?

With God all things are (im)possible according to Not4Sale.

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Most of the people whould have lived long lives, so the rate of departure from this life (which is part of the reason why people long to leave). Futher, the aging rate would have been much slower. Probably puberty would still have occured in the first 20 years of life, but the stages of life would have been much different, with young adulthood lasting until nearly 300 years old.

Probably marriages (Adam and Eve, and Enoch being exceptions) did not occur until after a person was into the triple digits. Children could also be spaced further apart (one every 15-20 years).

I know that I am engaging in supposition, but I do believe that some of these can be infered. Further we know that there was a moral collapse during the period preceding Noah.

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No Nephilim. Aside from one relatively obscure verse in Genesis, all support for that theory comes from sources outside the Bible. These are unreliable, and can lead into all manner of strange beliefs. Most of this ends in New Age/Occultic doctrines.

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I imagine "Lucy" was simply stunning in her wedding dress....

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Well, there are actually a number of distinct species commonly known as "neanderthals" and while none of them would be considered to be "attractive" most normal human standards, they didn't look like apes either and were close enough genetically to make interbreeding possible.

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Obscure?

1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
(Genesis 6:1-4)

The word giant from Strong's Concordance means: 5303 nphiyl nef-eel' or nphil {nef-eel'}; from 5307; properly, a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant:--giant. see HEBREW for 05307

The nephilim were merely tyrants which took wives and bare children. But...I answered my own question. This happened after Cain took a wife. The question of where his wife came from still remains.

We should never discount any verse in the Bible as "obscure" because every verse in the Bible has some meaning, otherwise it would not be there. Even the verse "Jesus Wept" is not obscure. I've heard many lessons on the shortest verse in the Bible.

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Just a thought? In the bible....at creation, How big did say the brand new 'baby' earth was? How fast does the bible say it was spinning when it was brand-spanking new? Now, this is not scriptural...but what if the earth was 1/10th the size and spinning 10 times faster? I do not necessarilly 'believe' this is true.....but I would like to point out that: We just do not 'know' all of God's workings and His ways. My bible say's that God created all, but it does not reveal the method. I for one believe....with all my heart. And I am in AWE of the marvelous mystery of God's creation and all His beauty, splendor, and Majesty. Just because I do not understand it all....does not give me cause to doubt. It gives me cause to marvel......intensely. Intensely!

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At one point the Earth WAS 1/10 its present size. At one point it was 1/100. When the moon was first formed from the collision of the Earth with a planet the size of Mars, the moon was MUCH closer and the rotation of the planet was about 8 hours, but it was the tidal influence of the new moon which slowed us down to our present 24 hour day.

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Type in 'moons origins' into Google and follow ALL the links. This IS the most likely scenario for the origin of our moon and is show most likely by both computer models and geological evidence.

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I was using the term obscure in the sense that the writing is not 'clear' and some people want to claim the nephilim as related to fallen angels. That was what I was addressing. If I was not clear as to what I meant, I apologize. It is the only passage that would could possibly link them in Scripture. I apologize if I misunderstood your question. I was addressing it from the arguments that I have heard before.

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Well, I "believe" the moon is made of cheese. Disapprove that!

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Have you been studying the expanding earth theory?

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No apologies needed Jay. I've heard the definition of nephilim as being fallen angels also, which prompted us as a family to search out the difference between the words "giants" and "sons of God". People get the two mixed up often. We are still studying the subject as we do not have a full understanding, maybe we never will in this life.

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. (Genesis 6:4)

If we look at it by substituting the word "tyrant" (just to try to clarify) instead of the word giant (according to Strong's) we can may see it in a different light.

There were tyrants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. (Genesis 6:4)

So...who are the sons of God?

Here is one explanation that makes some sense, but I am not convinced yet.

http://apostolicrevelation.blogspot....ns-of-god.html

It makes better sense than fallen angels turning into human flesh. (...and we were taught that in an Apostolic UPC church) It did not make sense then either.

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Just for conversation sake and not to dispute your supposition. It could have happened like you say, but I doubt that children would be spaced further apart ...one every 15-20 years. And I doubt that the men had only one wife back in Noah's day. Most likely they had many wives since there was no law binding them to one wife.

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But prove these rocks are from the moon!

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LOL.......I guess I BELIEVE the astronauts!:happydance

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Some folks don't believe that we ever went to the moon because of the Van Allen radiation belt.

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That belt has been bothering me for a long time.

Just kidding!

The moon photos must have been a photoshop job?

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5124/5...be67ce7cfe.jpg

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I looked at the link, and while I find some of it a stretch, I agree with the basic point that the 'sons of God' were of the line of Seth. Beyond that I find some it a bit exagerated and hypothetical for my taste. However, as I myself engaged in an extended hypothetical, I will not begrudge him his ideas, especially as they are closer to the angel/women theory. I will have to look up Strong's a little later with e-sword.



I think that you will find that I agreed with you about the 15-20 years in my own post. I will give you the example of Lamech (Cain's line) had two wives. I would agree that it would seem that there were many variations of the marriage covenant then as Jesus Himself makes mention of it.

Also it is interesting to note that the Bible only lists certain offspring, and then says 'begat sons and daughters'. I heard that this refered to the other descendants in the list, but have always been convinced that we were dealing with unnamed offspring.

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Why would it change puberty, fertility or gestation? I don't think that would be any different than now.

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Why would being so much older be a problem at all? You assume man was the same then as we are now.

I think man, and the earth, was created in a perfect state free of the imperfections introduced by sin and other factors. When you have man with perfect, non contaminated genes created and placed in a perfect earth created just for him with a perfect atmosphere how could he not be better than us?

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Scientists say that the oxygen atmospheric concentration was higher because of all the foliage on earth. No air pollution. There were no pesticides or GMO food. It was pure organic nutritiously packed food for energy and cell renewal. Water was pure. That is paradise as compared to the stuff we eat today.

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So when the Bible records people living lifespans that closer resemble our own, what pollution was the cause?

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Lifespans began to decline post Flood. Personally, I like the Hovind explanation to this.

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More radiation reaching the earth's surface, due to CO2 absorption by the oceans, post-flood? Do you think we would live hundreds of years now, if it weren't for solar radiation?