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Aquila 01-19-2012 07:06 AM

I Can't Stand Romney.
 
I don't like Romney. I don't know why. I just don't like him. Nothing personal. Nothing I'd be willing to "bash". I just don't like the guy. He seems slimey to me.

I'd vote for Gingrich (definitely not a "moral" man but a policy genius). I'd vote for Santorum. But Romney... I just don't like the guy.

I might vote Libertarian. :(

Amanah 01-19-2012 08:53 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
I'm a bit turned off by the Mormon religion, even though I work with many Mormon people and they are all very nice people. I have mixed feelings about him.

Dordrecht 01-19-2012 10:20 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
To bad there's not a "Ronald Reagan Type" candidate!

Amanah 01-19-2012 10:22 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
even another Clinton would not be bad, and when he ran and won I thought the world was coming to an end :heeheehee

Dordrecht 01-19-2012 10:25 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Don't get me going on Clinton!!!!!

Le Penseur 01-19-2012 10:43 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1129997)
I don't like Romney. I don't know why. I just don't like him. Nothing personal. Nothing I'd be willing to "bash". I just don't like the guy. He seems slimey to me.

I'd vote for Gingrich (definitely not a "moral" man but a policy genius). I'd vote for Santorum. But Romney... I just don't like the guy.

I might vote Libertarian. :(

I'm the same way. I don't like Romney, but can't quite put my finger on why (other than he is a social liberal). I think it might have something to do with his Used Car Salesman / TV Preacher persona.

seguidordejesus 01-19-2012 11:11 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
It's the hair. I'd vote for Gingrich.

aegsm76 01-19-2012 11:34 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Who do you like better BHO or Romney?
Better make up your mind.

Amanah 01-19-2012 11:39 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
socialism or mormonism, tough choice :(

aegsm76 01-19-2012 11:42 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
It's not like we have ever had anyone to vote for who believes as we do.

aegsm76 01-19-2012 11:42 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
And by the way, Newt is a converted Catholic...

Hoovie 01-19-2012 11:43 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Choice is easy in the end I will be voting againt Barry.

houston 01-19-2012 01:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1130084)
socialism or mormonism, tough choice :(

Is this a joke? Some of you act like Mittens' mandate is to make Mormonism the national religion. I can see it now. Everybody that does not have on the special Mormon underwear gets put into concentration camps.

Amanah 01-19-2012 01:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1130113)
Is this a joke? Some of you act like Mittens' mandate is to make Mormonism the national religion. I can see it now. Everybody that does not have on the special Mormon underwear gets put into concentration camps.

at least I know why I don't like him . . . whatever

houston 01-19-2012 01:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1130114)
at least I know why I don't like him . . . whatever

:bigbaby

Aquila 01-19-2012 03:01 PM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Le Penseur (Post 1130058)
I'm the same way. I don't like Romney, but can't quite put my finger on why (other than he is a social liberal). I think it might have something to do with his Used Car Salesman / TV Preacher persona.

That's what I think it is for me.

Aquila 01-19-2012 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus (Post 1130073)
It's the hair. I'd vote for Gingrich.

lol

coadie 01-19-2012 03:16 PM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus (Post 1130073)
It's the hair. I'd vote for Gingrich.

Buy photoshop software. His hair is easy to fix.

Jermyn Davidson 01-20-2012 07:30 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Romney is plastic, fake.

Amanah 01-20-2012 07:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1130260)
Romney is plastic, fake.

that's cause is he so busy thinking about celestial sex, while we are imagining gates of pearl and streets of gold . . .

AreYouReady? 01-20-2012 10:15 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Maybe the Republicans really want to keep the mandatory healthcare bill despite all their promises to overturn it? Congress hasn't overturned it yet since Republicans became the majority in the House. Remember that Romney got a mandatory health care bill passed in Massachusetts when he was Governor. So the game Congress plays that "we can't come together" will continue. Romney will most likely veto any bill overturning the healthcare law since he is in favor of mandating jobless people to purchase healthcare insurance.

deafdriscoll 01-26-2012 11:57 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
I prefer to have christians in office and mormans are not of the faith.

canam 01-26-2012 07:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1130260)
Romney is plastic, fake.

SO LETS REVIEW THE RECORD ON NEWT FIRST HE SAID HE WAS REAGAN CONSERVATIVE THEN HE SAID HE WAS ROCKEFELLOR CONSEVRVATIVE ,THEN HE BASHED REAGAN, AUDIO ON THE INTERNET,THEN HE PRAISED POLOSI AND PHOTOPED WITH HER HE TOOK HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS FROM FREDDIE MAC AND FANNY MAE ,THE CHIEF CAUSES OF OUR FINANCIAL MELTDOWN IN HOUSING ,HE IS MORALLY BANKCRUPT, YET CLAIMS HE IS A CHRISTIAN please !!! THE LIST IS UNENDING ,MORE STUFF STILL TO BE RELEASED AND HE AINT A BUSINESSMAN HE IS A GRABBER .NOT SHOUTING, CAPS LOCK IS ON AND I AINT CHANGING IT TILL IM DONE :)

Pressing-On 01-26-2012 08:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by canam (Post 1132569)
SO LETS REVIEW THE RECORD ON NEWT FIRST HE SAID HE WAS REAGAN CONSERVATIVE THEN HE SAID HE WAS ROCKEFELLOR CONSEVRVATIVE ,THEN HE BASHED REAGAN, AUDIO ON THE INTERNET,THEN HE PRAISED POLOSI AND PHOTOPED WITH HER HE TOOK HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS FROM FREDDIE MAC AND FANNY MAE ,THE CHIEF CAUSES OF OUR FINANCIAL MELTDOWN IN HOUSING ,HE IS MORALLY BANKCRUPT, YET CLAIMS HE IS A CHRISTIAN please !!! THE LIST IS UNENDING ,MORE STUFF STILL TO BE RELEASED AND HE AINT A BUSINESSMAN HE IS A GRABBER .NOT SHOUTING, CAPS LOCK IS ON AND I AINT CHANGING IT TILL IM DONE :)

Not endorsing or supporting either candidate, but the bashing Reagan is a lie. Video included in link.

Quote:

Video Of Newt Bashing Reagan Is Bogus

There's a short excerpt of a 1988 C-SPAN video purportedly showing Newt Gingrich bashing Reagan when talking about how Bush, Sr. should run. As I suspected, it's edited to give a false impression.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carniv...-is-bogus.html
From Michael Reagan:

Quote:

“I am deeply disturbed that supporters of Mitt Romney are claiming that Newt Gingrich is not a true Reaganite and are even claiming that Newt was a strong critic of my father.

“Recently I endorsed Newt Gingrich for president because I believe that Newt is the only Republican candidate who has both consistently backed the conservative policies that my father championed and the only Republican that will continue to implement his vision.

“It surprises me that Mitt Romney and his supporters would raise this issue — when Mitt by his own admission voted for Jimmy Carter and Walter Mondale who opposed my father, and later supported liberal Democrat Paul Tsongas for president.

“As governor of Massachusetts, Romney’s achievement was the most socialistic healthcare plan in the nation up until that time.

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/L...1/26/id/425666

crakjak 01-26-2012 10:53 PM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Mitt is the best suited for our current situation. Newt is exciting but the Demos will have a field day tearing him to pieces!! Rick Santorum is a great guy but won't be able to win the nomination, would make a great VP. Ron Paul has some good ideas but won't get near the nomination.
Romney should be able to credibly bring his business experience to bear on our screwed up government spending. He is a family man, has common values with Christians, though not doctrine, I will vote for a Mormon with values similar to mine, before I vote a Christian whose life values are not. Romney real believes in the family, life, and other Christian social values.

Newt's moon state, finished me off. He will implode with stuff that the Demos will make him out to be a nut.

Pressing-On 01-27-2012 11:30 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Welcome to Obamacare!

Santorum: “What Governor Romney just said is that government-run top-down medicine is working pretty well in Massachusetts, and he supports it. Now, think about what that means — going up against Barack Obama…you are going to claim, well, top-down government-run medicine on the federal level doesn’t work, and we should repeal it. And he’s going to say, wait a minute, Governor. You just said that top-down government-run medicine in Massachusetts works well. Folks, we can’t give this issue away in this election. It is about fundamental freedom.”


Romney: (referring to individual mandate) “We are insisting on personal responsibility.”

Santorum: “Does everybody in Massachusetts have a requirement to buy health care?”

Romney:
“Everyone has a requirement to either buy it or pay the state for the cost of providing them free care.”

Santorum: “Just so I understand this, in Massachusetts, everybody is mandated as a condition of breathing in Massachusetts, to buy health insurance, and if you don’t, and if you don’t, you have to pay a fine.”

Romney: “First of all, it's not worth getting angry about.”

crakjak 01-27-2012 02:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1132795)
Welcome to Obamacare!

Santorum: “What Governor Romney just said is that government-run top-down medicine is working pretty well in Massachusetts, and he supports it. Now, think about what that means — going up against Barack Obama…you are going to claim, well, top-down government-run medicine on the federal level doesn’t work, and we should repeal it. And he’s going to say, wait a minute, Governor. You just said that top-down government-run medicine in Massachusetts works well. Folks, we can’t give this issue away in this election. It is about fundamental freedom.”


Romney: (referring to individual mandate) “We are insisting on personal responsibility.”

Santorum: “Does everybody in Massachusetts have a requirement to buy health care?”

Romney:
“Everyone has a requirement to either buy it or pay the state for the cost of providing them free care.”

Santorum: “Just so I understand this, in Massachusetts, everybody is mandated as a condition of breathing in Massachusetts, to buy health insurance, and if you don’t, and if you don’t, you have to pay a fine.”

Romney: “First of all, it's not worth getting angry about.”

Romney said he will repeal Obamacare, and I believe he has character and will do what he says. I understand the position he was in as governor of a very liberal state.

Think about it, he could have pursued a liberal political career, but he like Ronald Reagan has chosen to become a conservative and to fight for the future of our country. He is not a liberal, he has been conservative and wise in money matters, he gives hugely to charity and his church. His values are deeply enbedded. He is the very best suited for our country at this time, I believe he has a backbone to do the right things.

We have had "conservatives of convenience" in the past. Romney is settled, he has made his fortune and can therefore be his own person to do what is right. BTW: He will not try to convert the country to Mormonism!! LOL

crakjak 01-27-2012 02:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1132795)
Welcome to Obamacare!

Santorum: “What Governor Romney just said is that government-run top-down medicine is working pretty well in Massachusetts, and he supports it. Now, think about what that means — going up against Barack Obama…you are going to claim, well, top-down government-run medicine on the federal level doesn’t work, and we should repeal it. And he’s going to say, wait a minute, Governor. You just said that top-down government-run medicine in Massachusetts works well. Folks, we can’t give this issue away in this election. It is about fundamental freedom.”


Romney: (referring to individual mandate) “We are insisting on personal responsibility.”

Santorum: “Does everybody in Massachusetts have a requirement to buy health care?”

Romney:
“Everyone has a requirement to either buy it or pay the state for the cost of providing them free care.”

Santorum: “Just so I understand this, in Massachusetts, everybody is mandated as a condition of breathing in Massachusetts, to buy health insurance, and if you don’t, and if you don’t, you have to pay a fine.”

Romney: “First of all, it's not worth getting angry about.”

Does your state mandate auto insurance? Yes, do you want to repeal that law? No, and neither do want to relegate it to the federal government.

New Hampshire is a very liberal state and run 85% by the Democrats, a conservation governor in that state is very limited in what he can do.

Pressing-On 01-27-2012 02:43 PM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 1132874)
Romney said he will repeal Obamacare, and I believe he has character and will do what he says.

Norm Coleman, a prominent advisor to Romney:

"We’re not going to do repeal.
You’re not going to repeal Obamacare… It’s not a total repeal... You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major changes, particularly if there is a Republican president... You can't whole-cloth throw it out. But you can substantially change what's been done."

Quote:

This may be a good end result for many of the stakeholders and the politicians involved. As for the American people, well, that’s a different story.
http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Norm-C...peal-Obamacare
Quote:

BTW: He will not try to convert the country to Mormonism!! LOL
I've never said anything about his Mormonism. That doesn't make any difference to me. But, please don't call him a Conservative.

Quote:


"I will preserve and protect a woman's right to choose."

— Mitt Romney, Massachussets Governor election debate
(Video), October 29, 2002

"Every action I have taken as governor of Massachussets has been pro-life."
— Mitt Romney, Republican Debate (Video), August 5, 2007

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fac..._abortion.html

Pressing-On 01-27-2012 04:22 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVUQu...yer_embedded#!

http://www.mittsbloodmoney.com/

trialedbyfire 01-27-2012 06:50 PM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Romney is a man with no conviction.

Newt is a man with no morals.

I can't bring myself to vote for either of them and go to sleep at night.

I agree Aquila I can't stand Romney, and it's the fakeness, I don't believe ANYTHING he says. He's a career political liar of the worst kind, he changes his positions like I change clothes. And YES the Mormon thing scares me, even though Catholics and Black liberation theologists scare me too so when it comes to religion there's no real win-win there.

Even when Romney "goes on the attack" in the debates as the media puts it he comes off more as a spoiled whining child then someone who has a consistently conservative message.

I'm a Paulite, but actually might end up voting for Santorum, just because I like is social policy and he's not to bad on foreign policy. Neither Mittens or the Grinch have any real chance of changing washington. If you want change then vote Paul or Santorum, if you want to be whining about how bad things are in 2012, Mittens and the Grinch are the candidates for you.

crakjak 01-27-2012 08:18 PM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1132893)
Norm Coleman, a prominent advisor to Romney:

"We’re not going to do repeal.
You’re not going to repeal Obamacare… It’s not a total repeal... You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major changes, particularly if there is a Republican president... You can't whole-cloth throw it out. But you can substantially change what's been done."





I've never said anything about his Mormonism. That doesn't make any difference to me. But, please don't call him a Conservative.

You can demonize anyone by sound bites taken out of context. All four contenders say they will repeal, Obamacare.

Jay 01-28-2012 01:41 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
I will support the winner in the GE because he will be better than BHO. However, I would sooner trust Romney the Gingrich. There is something about that man that does not sit well with me. I believe that it may be because he is possibly the biggest serpent in this race. He has been the most corrupt individual on stage (3 marriages because of his adultery/ethics charges), he has lied about his position on man made global warming, he has lied about his position on the Libyan conflict, he has lied about Mitt Romney, he has lied about his own record on required healthcare mandates, and he has embraced leaders from the other side openly (supporting and complementing the Senator Clinton, photo ops with Speaker Pelosi, and many others).

At least with Mitt Romney I know what I am getting.

crakjak 01-28-2012 08:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1133075)
I will support the winner in the GE because he will be better than BHO. However, I would sooner trust Romney the Gingrich. There is something about that man that does not sit well with me. I believe that it may be because he is possibly the biggest serpent in this race. He has been the most corrupt individual on stage (3 marriages because of his adultery/ethics charges), he has lied about his position on man made global warming, he has lied about his position on the Libyan conflict, he has lied about Mitt Romney, he has lied about his own record on required healthcare mandates, and he has embraced leaders from the other side openly (supporting and complementing the Senator Clinton, photo ops with Speaker Pelosi, and many others).

At least with Mitt Romney I know what I am getting.

I believe Newt has turned his life around, however I still believe Romney is the best man for the job, he has a stable history.

He also, just like Reagan has moved more and more conservative. He resided in one of the most liberal states in the US, and challenged Ted Kennedy for the Senate, leaned right as governor even though 85% the state's Congress was liberal Demos.

Came out of that and turned even more conservative, in alignment with Mormon tradition, family values and strong work ethic. His religion informs his politics, but he will not try to convert us to Mormonism. LOL

If Newt, Santorum, or Paul win the nomination, I will support them.

Pressing-On 01-28-2012 04:40 PM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 1133092)
I believe Newt has turned his life around, however I still believe Romney is the best man for the job, he has a stable history.

He also, just like Reagan has moved more and more conservative. He resided in one of the most liberal states in the US, and challenged Ted Kennedy for the Senate, leaned right as governor even though 85% the state's Congress was liberal Demos.

Came out of that and turned even more conservative, in alignment with Mormon tradition, family values and strong work ethic. His religion informs his politics, but he will not try to convert us to Mormonism. LOL

If Newt, Santorum, or Paul win the nomination, I will support them.

Romney is being totally dishonest to keep pushing the $300,000 ethics violation, in Florida, against Gingrich. He was cleared of that charge two years later and Romney knows it, but he won't stop the lie. I can't stand him for it. And I can't stand Drudge and Fox trying to make Gingrich out to be some Marxist anti-Reagan loon. Sure, he is grandiose like Perry described him, but at least he has admitted and lived up to his wrongs.

I like Santorum much more than the other two, as a social conservative, even though he won't be able to get the nomination.

It is starkly and totally disgusting that Romney continues to stoop so low to lie and use his money to win the nomination. What a creep.

I'm with Mark Levin, who supports Santorum, if that is what Conservatism is about, I don't want to be a part of it.

:thumbsdown :thumbsdown to Mitt Romney. What a disgusting creep.

WORD! :heeheehee

Pressing-On 01-28-2012 04:48 PM

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Quote:

Fact-checking Mitt Romney on the Massachusetts individual mandate


Romney insists that the mandate is a conservative approach that zeroes in on just the free-riders — that it leaves the rights of others essentially untouched. In reality, however, Massachusetts residents are forced to buy insurance or pay a fine to the state even if they do not use any health services paid for by the public.

True individual responsibility involves risks and rewards that are borne by individuals and enjoyed by individuals. Whether at the federal or state level, individual mandates to free politicians of the consequences of earlier laws are the refuge of big government thinkers, not those who wish to return America to a free society.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/28/fa...#ixzz1kneWlLlE


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/28/fa...#ixzz1kndmkfNJ
:thumbsdown :thumbsdown Mitt Romney!

Pressing-On 01-28-2012 04:54 PM

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Quote:

Romney’s claims about Newt’s ethics charge are false and misleading

Mitt Romney’s key debate line of late is that Newt resigned in disgrace over ethics charges. It’s even featured in the most recent Romney advertisement (not his SuperPAC) running in Florida.

There was no crime or ethics violation committed.
The Republican Party, which retook the presidency in the 2000 election was better off for Newt having put the matter to rest when he did rather than dragging out the fight for years.

Newt also did not resign his Speakership because of the ethics charges, as the WaPo fact checker found. He resigned two years later because Republicans, though holding the House, did not do as well as expected in the 1998 House elections.

The other irony of all this is that in the mid-1990s while Newt and others were fighting for the Contact with America, taking back the House, Romney joined with the Democrats in attacking the conservative agenda.

So the next time Romney states at a debate or runs an ad alleging that Newt resigned in disgrace because of ethics charges, remember Mike Huckabee’s line from 2008 in response to Romney attack ads.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/01...nd-misleading/
This is who the GOP Establishment is propping up. Status quo - we expected it. What a creep. :thumbsdown :thumbsdown

crakjak 01-28-2012 10:10 PM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1133220)
Romney is being totally dishonest to keep pushing the $300,000 ethics violation, in Florida, against Gingrich. He was cleared of that charge two years later and Romney knows it, but he won't stop the lie. I can't stand him for it. And I can't stand Drudge and Fox trying to make Gingrich out to be some Marxist anti-Reagan loon. Sure, he is grandiose like Perry described him, but at least he has admitted and lived up to his wrongs.

I like Santorum much more than the other two, as a social conservative, even though he won't be able to get the nomination.

It is starkly and totally disgusting that Romney continues to stoop so low to lie and use his money to win the nomination. What a creep.

I'm with Mark Levin, who supports Santorum, if that is what Conservatism is about, I don't want to be a part of it.

:thumbsdown :thumbsdown to Mitt Romney. What a disgusting creep.

WORD! :heeheehee

They are both throwing mud, Newt uses the same tactics, if Rick could win I would support him.

crakjak 01-28-2012 10:11 PM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1133227)
This is who the GOP Establishment is propping up. Status quo - we expected it. What a creep. :thumbsdown :thumbsdown

Just maybe the "establishment" wants someone that can and will win. Romney is ahead in Florida. Newt did not do well in the last debate.

Jay 01-29-2012 03:39 AM

Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
 
I do not know that Rick Santorum will be in the race much longer since he had to leave Florida to be with his family do to one of their children having a health problem.


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