What Happens to the Holy Ghost When One Backslide?
 

I know some people that believe the Holy Ghost dies or leaves you when you backslide...I know some that believe the Holy Ghost always stays in you even if you backslide, it just gets so weak you can't feel it anymore. So if the Holy Ghost does indeed leave you, does it after just one sin, or do you have to surrender into a backslid lifestyle?

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dies?

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Thats what I said....but there are some people that believe that.

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I can offer experience...

But from a theological standpoint, I'm not really sure what the Bible would indicate.

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The Spirit of God departed from King Saul. I would assume that if you were to totally deny Christ, that he will "Depart" from you also. Remember the Holy Ghost is the Spirit of Christ. However, the Spirit will always strive with man.

For those that sin, Paul told us what we had to do "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thought shalt be saved"...

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Great questions. Let me add the question of when does the Holy Ghost abandon the Holy Ghost filled, tongue talking Trinitarian who was baptized 'wrong'.

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Take it how you want it, anybody can feel anything about anything.

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The whole idea of the HG leaving is kind of a mystery to me... I've met people who believe it happens every time they sin until they repent... And more than once heard someone say jokingly 'Your going to have to hold my HG while I go give so and so a piece of my mind'... Strange stuff. You are right someone can believe what ever they want to believe about anything and everything.

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My husband is going to answer this question for you.

He is asking you ...what do you mean by backsliding? Some folks think that if you miss church, go to a ball game etc. you are backslidden. But he says these things are not "sins". Backslid is an overused term some people will apply to others without even knowing what other person is about.

He does not believe that the Holy Ghost leaves us over one sin.
God is merciful, faithful and just to forgive us if we confess our sin to Him. The Holy Ghost is sort of our compass as we walk through this life. He writes God's laws in our heart. He tells us when we aren't doing right. If you feel condemned over something, it doesn't mean that you are backslid, it just means that the Holy Ghost is dealing with you over something in your life and you must confess, repent and get it under the blood of Christ. He is our guide and help, our comforter.

There are people who can totally rebel against God and go against all of God's commandments for so long that the Holy Spirit will just quit dealing with you and depart. But who is to say when that happens? We mere humans cannot declare anybody reprobate, only God can. Remember, God is long-suffering and is not willing that any perish.

Being discouraged is not a sin, it just means that we must pray to gain victory over discouragement. I think that everybody at some time in their walk with God gets discouraged over life matters. God is still here through it all, even when one thinks that he does not feel Him in their life.

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I think of a backslider as someone who is deep into sin that doesn't bother to come to church anymore....of course there's a such thing as being backslid on the pew.

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I used to believe that the Holy Ghost would leave you at the drop of a hat, or the moment you disobeyed (which is as the sin of witchcraft) your pastor.

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I think you have the typical Christian misunderstanding of what 'going to church' means. Not showing up at a building to participate in a man made religious system and structure has nothing whatsoever to do with 'going to church'.

It may surprise you that backsliding isn't a New Covenant term but was a term used in the Old Covenant system.

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I think you want to debate everything I say, not something I'm here for.

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Nope, just pointing out a few facts for ya. :)

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I'm new too... it's a tough crowd around here and people can be a little sharp even when they mean well... Here is what I've figured out... Don't take it personally, many times comments are just opinions and they are not directed at YOU they would be the same no matter who said what you said. And you just keep it civil, not being easily offended. People here are a mix but I haven't found any that will carry a grudge over from one thread to another and just try to be argumentative... when they disagree with you in more than one thread... well they just disagree with you in more than one thread...

Of course being popular or even right all the time doesn't matter to me... I'm here to share and learn :)

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I thought I had heard a different interpretation for "backsliding" then than we have today, like more legalistic? I kind of consider my "backslidden" period now to actually be more...pre-redeemed, almost. Still searching.

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Thanks, you're right of course. I apologize seeker, just felt like personal jabs to me. I personally cannot live a pure and holy life if I don't have my brothers to fellowship with, if I don't have a head (pastor) to keep me in line, I love praise and worship, and I don't think I would get very far without a church to do it in. Now I do believe if two or three brothers and/or/whatevs sisters get together and talk about, or exalt Jesus in some way, that's a form of church too. I have a brother in Canada who is spiritually dead because like me he needs a church to go to and he doesn't have it. We all need a little authority in our live, and it makes it a lot easier if you have someone to go to when you have questions, problems, etc. That's how I feel.

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I FINALLY figured out what that was in your avatar and now I can't UNLOOK IT!!!

No...wait...now I'm not sure what it is....again.

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I've been told before I take things too seriously, so keep me in your prayers about that if you don't mind.

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Hey, no apology necessary. I haven't been offended at all, brother. We're all simply airing out our views. :)

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Perhaps a backslider is when one consistently chooses to blatantly sin over the correction of the Holy Ghost? No human can kick you out of Christ's church. They do not have that authority. Only Christ does and he is long-suffering towards us, not willing that any perish.

God is not hard on flesh and bones in the New Covenant. He has pity for us because He knows we are but flesh. That is why He gives us the Holy Ghost to correct and be our guide.

His NT laws are not hard.

29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.


But...consider this...the Holy Ghost is with you all the time..day and night...not just at church. One cannot put aside the Holy Ghost at the church doors only to pick the HG up again when he returns to church. If we have treated our neighbor badly, the Holy Ghost will nudge us on it. All God asks is that we try to live righteously, humbly and obedient to God to the best of our ability. That is why it is important to read what the bible says everyday.

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Hmm, kind of a tough question, because the word "backsliding" I think is what you mean when a person no longer has faith evident and working in their life, and when their focus is no longer Jesus. Of course, OP use it for many, many things, and to them, it could mean something as simple as a beard on a man, or a short skirt on a woman and so on... However, looking at the word of God, and especially in the OT, it might be interesting if you had a concordance and looked up the word backslid in the OT. That would give insight into exactly what it meant there. In the NT, I believe there is only one sin that is unforgiveable by God, and that is blasphemy. Otherwise, I believe that if one deliberately walks away from the cross and takes up other idols in his life to worship, then God steps back from Him, and waits. Unless blasphemy is invovled, which of course is another whole discussion...

but to simply answer your question, a little study on the word backslid using a concordance might prove very helpful.

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Bahahaha! Do you want T2W to blow the picture up again so you can see??? :heeheehee

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Now that's good food! I shouldn't have said the not going to church part, I guess that's more of a personal thing to me, if I backslide, I stop going to church, so I just associate not going to church with being backslid. I fear I'll be getting corrected and correcting myself a lot...

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Good idea.

Backslid according to Strong's Concordance simply means apostate; frowardly, idolatrous, turning away from.

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There are just quite a few here, myself included, who have always been taught that you are in church when the doors are open! To NOT be means you are "backsliden" (a term I have only ever heard in the UPC).

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I don't even want to think about what I think it is....if I had to think about it.

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I was taught that too. My pastor even went a little further. He said that if we miss church, we were the one who was responsible for what he taught in the sermon you missed.

But you know what? Some of the sermons I've heard were doozies that had little to do with God. One time he preached on "The hounds of hell were after you". While true in a sense, it did not edify the church.

Other times he preached good sermons like Psalms 15. This is good instruction that I would have hated to miss.

1 LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?
2 He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.
3 He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour.
4 In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not.
5 He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved.

Now that was a good sermon!

But, the idea is that some preaches will try to put the hurt on ya if you don't show up every time the doors open, especially in the smaller churches.

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I don't go to church anymore. (I don't consider it "not bothering to come". I just don't have a reason to.) But I'm not deep in sin. I'm just not a believer, anymore. (OK, if you call that a sin, I suppose I am deep in sin!)

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Well, then I guess you're the "backslider" we're all talking about... I'm teasing, don't take it personal... :)

Not frequenting a church building is not a sin, as home churches, and group fellowships edify each other, and the Bible does say... when two or three are gathered together in my name....

Just keep your faith in Jesus!!!

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It's me milking a goat... The only pic I had shrunk to avatar size. you are now two zip, lol! Here is prize behind door three.




Sorry for the hijack Matt :)

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(Honestly, WHY do I have to ask questions...am I insane??)

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:ursofunny

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too late!:heeheehee

Is that ANOTHER question you want an answer to?

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Why?

(I actually am "that backslider". Except for the "deep in sin" part. No offense taken. ;))

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Will folks please post a lot on this thread so that I don't see page 4 every time I look?

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[QUOTE=Titus2woman;1131410]It's me milking a goat... The only pic I had shrunk to avatar size. you are now two zip, lol! Here is prize behind door three.


But...just when you think the page is far behind you....look again! :ursofunny

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Oh that is just wrong! I had just taken it down ... one second later and the quote would've flopped...

Poor Matt... we are ruining your thread... like little goat butt goblins... so sorry!

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How does one form the thought which results in the idea of taking such a picture?

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I'm no stranger to forums...threads can go anywhere.