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how do you know if you are a victim?

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Pray for discernment, someone may tell you you're under an attack, or sometimes it will be completely obvious to you (pharmaceudicals and such)

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Huh?

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Pharmaceudicals, herbal medicine...changes your mind from one state to another...

Oh boy.

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I certainly believe that about many homeopathic and herbal medicines but do have a certain insight realistic into the drug industry that many do not have considering my wife is a pharmacist. :)

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Has your life ever been completely taken over by drugs?

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thanks for nothing

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What did you really expect?

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Only drugs for my allergies. :(

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:happydance exactly what i got. this is aff.

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I have spoken to a number of people involved in witchcraft to varying degrees, but one thing they did say was that they are generally careful about casting a spell with intent to harm an individual. One reason that they told me was that if the person on whom the spell was cast has greater power, the spell can be returned upon the caster. This is consistent with other things that I have heard, and so most people do not have to fear this.

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Do you (a child of God) honestly believe the Holy Spirit living within you would not protect you from the powers of Satan ?

In my opinion if your belief in such is stronger than your faith that God would keep you from such then you are giving Satan more power than he really has.

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Devil worship is a REAL thing and not to be played with...However GREATER is HE that is in us than he that is in the world...

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a place where people both pray to gods and saints and where people do devil worship...

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you mean like, of someone else's witchcraft? I don't think it works like that, but I could be wrong...I think you have to be willing for witchcraft to have any meaning.

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Generally you start croaking or slithering around on the ground like a newt, because you are one......

....but seriously, I wouldn't lose any sleep wondering if you are a "victim" of witchcraft because I can guarantee you that you are not -unless of course you were the one practicing it. Otherwise any perceived effects are nothing but power of suggestion, which is very very powerful indeed, far more then someone elses spell.

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Which has nothing to do with witchcraft.

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mãe,

Are those artificial limbs?

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That would be a drug problem, possibly demonically motivated, but not a witchcraft problem.

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Heh. They want to look smart... "pharmakeia" is used for "sorcery" in the book of Revelation.

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Hello houston.

Perhaps I can help here.
I will be addressing some of the other issues that were brought up along
the way as well.

The best way for you to know if you are a victim of baneful magik is for God
to show that to you. As a general rule, witches in the western world tend
to leave christians alone for various reasons, including it not being worth the
trouble to get something to work on them. As with other attacks of the enemy,
magik won't work on a believer unless our Lord allows it, and that didn't ever
seem to be the normative case when I was a practitioner of those arts.

Sometimes, though, there can be a stirring up of the demonic forces that is
downright oppressive to the christians in the area, even if they are not
the actual target.
Best advice is to pray and praise our Lord for His goodness and mercy.

Mark

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while that is true, I hold that where the Bible says sorcery, that is indeed what
it means.. :)

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Have you hand any spiritual manifestations or oppression in your family or home? These can include:

Objects moving by themselves
Strange noises
Apparitions
Appliances turning on and/or off on their own
Hearing voices
Unexplainable sickness that comes and goes quickly
Sleep walking into dangerous situations
Nightmares
Feelings of dread, depression, or uneasiness that are out of character
Temptations towards deep perversion that are out of character
Thoughts of murder or suicide
Demonic possession

Of course the list above isn't comprehensive. Nor are these things on the list sure indicators of witchcraft. Ultimately only God can reveal if one is under the enfluence of witchcraft. But if any of the above are present the are fairly decent indicators that one is under spiritual attack from witchcraft or demonic forces.

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i recently found out that members of my family came to the USA were not christian but used rocks to tell peoples fortunes and heal people. this thing is still in the grime family and I do have to deal with those charactors.
They are a mean bunch.

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"If so, then we're ready to believe you!"

http://www.ghostbustersinternational...apeimage_2.png

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LOL

Hey bro. I know it sounds funny. But if it happens to you, you will feel like your dreaming and want to wake up... only to realize... you are awake. It's not pleasant. You'll be saying to yourself, "Did I really hear that?" And it will happen again. Or you'll be saying, "Did I REALLY see that???" And it will happen again. It's really no joke if it happens to you. You also fear for your loved ones because these forces will do all that they can to bring death or ruin to peoples lives.

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Sorry, that one single line I bolded made me think of the infamous Ghostbusters commercial. :)

And I actually do have a fascination with the supernatural/aka, the afterlife, insomuch as I wonder about the nature and physics behind it. I am convinced that there can be spirits (NOT souls) which continue to "haunt" locations after a persons death, although their exact nature is a mystery.

As far as witchcraft goes and "curses", I have much harder time believing in certain parts of it. In other words I do NOT believe I will suddenly drop a bowling ball on my feet because someone somewhere placed a curse on me. Now I MAY drop a bowling ball but it would be from my own clumsiness and not from someone making a witches potion using some of my hair that they stole from a hairbrush.

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You and I are a lot alike in some ways. I like your theory on hauntings. "Residual energy", which you interpret as "spirit", if I remember correctly.

Now, as far as the witchcraft thing. I agree... just because some bad things or accidents happen, it doesn't mean witchcraft is behind it. However, witchcraft and demonization do manifest on occasions in ways that are uncommon, abnormal, or just disturbing. For example... if your bowling ball became too hot to handle and you dropped it on your foot... or if your hand suddenly locked up ridgid and you dropped it on your foot... or if the bowling ball for no apparent reason moved from it's corale and fell onto your foot while in a conversation. Those things might catch my attention as having spiritual forces behind them. Of course... I'd be thinking I want out of that league. lol

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And so, a Christian's concept of "witchcraft" can reliably be determined from an episode of Bewitched, then. See that neither you, the collective you, nor anyone you know, has ever witnessed this kind of witchcraft; it is strictly a movie.

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justdontletthestreamscross...

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They are made from wood...each representing a need....

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It's funny. The Lord revealed to me that there's actually a witch on my job today (in all seriousness). Well I guess she kind of revealed it, without revealing it, the Lord just opened my eyes to it. It's a shame she's a real nice lady, she at least pretends to get along with me at work. There's always an oppressive environment here, LOL I've had to pray against all kinds of things. The Lord is faithful though, none of that mess comes any further then outside my door. I'm that one Apostolic nutjob that brings my anointing oil to work. I just can't help it.

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I would say that fear is a major weapon of Satan. I have often wondered about the scripture in Revelation where it talks about the man of sin being able to do mighty signs and wonders, and that perhaps even the elect would be deceived, in another passage where Jesus was speaking. I have prayed about this, and asked God how I would be able to know and discern. I certainly don't want to be among the elect who are deceived. God brought to my attention this fact. Satan uses fear as his major weapon. But perfect love casteth out all fear. Anyone that is living in fear, and is controlled by something, someone, or anything that brings fear, is not of God. The fear of God as proposed in another thread brings respect. Fear that is of Satan brings confusion, and distress.

I do believe the enemy uses fear as his main weapon to exert his control over people. I would say that could the deciding factor, and measuring stick to use.

Just my thoughts.

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The "elect" will not be deceived. IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, the elect would be deceived.

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Thank you so much for that, this says alot much further than this particular topic. It's good to be reminded of things that may slip our mind.

I'd like to say I feel I only have a most basic understanding of most things biblical, and I'm going to try to be more careful adding my incite about things I don't really understand very well.

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Control and manipulation are big indicators that witchcraft is at work.

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Can you give a description of control and manipulation? From your own thoughts?