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The Matt 01-27-2012 02:22 PM

Diet and Exercise
 
Share things that work for you for your health and fitness here.
I'm trying out a diet that is reeeeally working good for me, high protein, low carb. I love my meat, and I hate all things vegi. Here's what I eat.
Breakfast: Bowl of Special K, and a banana. (You need some carbs, that's your energy. I get mine in the morning.)
Lunch: 3 Tilapia Fish seasoned with lemon pepper, and a green salad with Thousand Island Dressing.
Supper: 2 Baked Chicken Breasts, seasoned with lemon pepper, and a green salad with Thousand Island Dressing.
Snacks: I allow myself one sweet a day, normally a Nutty Bar, and a glass of milk. In between meals, I'll snack on bananas.
I allow myself one cheat meal a week. (mmm Chinese food) It's important (to me anyway) to let yourself cheat a little bit, otherwise you'll get sick of the diet and give up.
I know it's not a lot of change, but this works for me. Anyone have any tips on a high protein diet?
Exercise
CARDIO! I walk 2 miles a day (sometimes more, never less) 6 days a week. Walking is therepeutic, it can help to treat many many mental disorders, and general feelings every person alive has sometimes such as depression and anxiety. Some good cardio exercises I know of without needing equipment is walking, jogging, running, going up and down stairs, (If you have two steps you can do it!)
I like to work out at the gym, free weights not only can help you build muscle, but it takes away a lot of aches and pains after awhile. I don't really know what most of the exercises I do are called, but I work arms, upper legs, calves and hamstrings, back, shoulders and abs. 5 days a week, 2 day rests. It's VERY important to take rest days, if you work out every day you're going to shock your nervous system. And it's important to give each body part you work at least three days to rest, otherwise all you're doing is tearing down muscle.
So that's what I do...a few other tips: If you're doing exercise to build muscle mass as well as trying to lose weight, don't check the scale all the time! Building muscle will cause your weight to fluctuate. Don't look in the mirror all the time! If you look at yourself every day, you get used to seeing yourself and you won't notice that you're losing weight. Another thing I had to learn was don't try to think behind what people tell you. People have been telling me I'm slimming down, and I just thought "Oh they're just trying to encourage me because they know I'm trying to lose weight." It took a complete stranger (someone that lives down my road) to tell me it looks like I'm slimming down for me to start believing people.

houston 01-27-2012 02:37 PM

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high protein, lots of salad, whole grain bread a la orowheat, brown rice, lots of water.

bbyrd009 01-27-2012 02:51 PM

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I got turned on to The Metabolic Typing Diet by some hiker buddies when I moved to Colorado, it basically shows one how to adjust their protein/fat/carb ratio to their specific metabolism, this is the book that started all that.

Beyond that, one in the US eating CAFO (grocery store) meat should be aware that all the Omega 3,and Vitamin D that one would normally have gotten from their meat in years past is absent in CAFO meat, and both are vital; vitamin D deficiency has just been recognized as being a better marker for breast cancer than a mammogram.

returnman 01-27-2012 02:52 PM

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Best results I have seen on folks, weight watchers. Low carb. common sense.

Amanah 01-27-2012 03:04 PM

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if you are a female:

eat 1500 calories/day.
buy Jillian Michaels fitness DVDs and rock them.

The Matt 01-27-2012 03:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by returnman (Post 1132900)
Best results I have seen on folks, weight watchers. Low carb. common sense.

A fluffy person tends to forget that.

Titus2woman 01-28-2012 05:11 AM

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Read: Sally Fallon's Nourishing Traditions.

Eat: Grass fed beef, pastured pork, chicken and eggs. Raw milk, cream, cheese, butter, yogurt, keifer, Kombucha tea, fresh chem. free veggies and fruits. Home baked bread and homemade pasta. Raw honey from our bee hives. Coconut and olive oil and lard rendered at home.


Avoid: Processed pseudo-foods (ever seen how a chicken nugget is made?). Anything in shiny packages or with more than three ingredients on the label.

Exercise: No not really.

I enjoy: Gardening, housework, yard work, milking cows and goats, stacking hay and 50 pound feed sacks, feeding critters, occasional calf pulling or wrangling, yoga and martial arts.

Pilgrum 01-28-2012 07:54 AM

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Monitor calories. I allow myself up to 2000 calories a day. It usually comes out to between 1500 and 2000. I don't believe in diets. You will lose weight on a low carb high protein diet, but when the diet is over and you go back to eating the way you did before the diet you'll get it back unless you make permanent lifestyle changes. The same is true for every diet. Also high protein low carb is unhealthy. There is nothing wrong with carbs. It's where you get the carbs from that causes problems. I have a goal to lose 40lbs in 4 months and so far I'm down 12lbs and expect to lose 1 or 2 more before the month is over. Monitoring calories really makes you aware of what your putting in your mouth and how fast they can mount up. Once you reach your goal it's easier to then maintain your weight because you retain that awareness and discipline and continue to make sensible choices.

I drink fresh squeezed veggie/fruit juices every day. In spring summer and fall I bicycle a lot. Now I am working out on an elliptical trainer an hour a day 5 or 6 times a week and I also lift weights 3 times a week. As mentioned walking is probably the best exercise there is for both physical and mental well being. If you have a lot of physical activity in your daily living like T2W then exercising is not as important. And as T2W stated avoid processed food as much as possible. Fast food is a no brainier. All these foods contain additives that make you hungrier and retain weight and are toxic. A general rule, if it comes in a box, can or jar, don't eat it.

The Matt 01-28-2012 10:57 AM

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I like to stay away from calorie counting, this is just how my mind works: a Coke is only 120 calories, so I can have a few of those a day right?

The Matt 01-28-2012 10:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilgrum (Post 1133088)
Monitor calories. I allow myself up to 2000 calories a day. It usually comes out to between 1500 and 2000. I don't believe in diets. You will lose weight on a low carb high protein diet, but when the diet is over and you go back to eating the way you did before the diet you'll get it back unless you make permanent lifestyle changes. The same is true for every diet. Also high protein low carb is unhealthy. There is nothing wrong with carbs. It's where you get the carbs from that causes problems. I have a goal to lose 40lbs in 4 months and so far I'm down 12lbs and expect to lose 1 or 2 more before the month is over. Monitoring calories really makes you aware of what your putting in your mouth and how fast they can mount up. Once you reach your goal it's easier to then maintain your weight because you retain that awareness and discipline and continue to make sensible choices.

I drink fresh squeezed veggie/fruit juices every day. In spring summer and fall I bicycle a lot. Now I am working out on an elliptical trainer an hour a day 5 or 6 times a week and I also lift weights 3 times a week. As mentioned walking is probably the best exercise there is for both physical and mental well being. If you have a lot of physical activity in your daily living like T2W then exercising is not as important. And as T2W stated avoid processed food as much as possible. Fast food is a no brainier. All these foods contain additives that make you hungrier and retain weight and are toxic. A general rule, if it comes in a box, can or jar, don't eat it.

Maybe I should have been more clear, this really isn't a diet, more of a lifestyle change to me.

The Matt 01-28-2012 11:33 AM

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I forgot one of the most important parts of my diet...No soda, no juice, only milk and water to drink.

RandyWayne 01-28-2012 11:46 AM

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I don't eat a lot but I do not eat that healthy either. Part of dealing with my work schedule combined with my wifes who works 3 or 4 days a week for 14 hour shifts. We have conditioned ourselves to basically one big meal a day. So you spend most of the day feeling famished and then bloated after eating.

I'm not overweight because I DO work out a bit and my total calorie intake for the day isn't outrageous, I'm just saying it isn't the healthiest lifestyle.

NotforSale 01-28-2012 12:49 PM

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I've been working out since I was a teenager, and I'm 51 years old. I cycle over 5000 miles annually, and enjoy a good weight lifting routine. I believe people have approached diet the wrong way. Yes, diet is important, but exercise is more important.

For instance, your heart is a muscle. Good diet will help, but exercise is what will condition the heart, increasing the hearts ability to pump nutritious blood and oxygen to the vital organs, muscles, and bones of the body. Exercise also causes the ABPM (Average Beats Per Minute) to decrease, allowing efficiency at the resting and maximum heart rate.

Also, when a person exercises they become concerned about their diet automatically. Dieting alone doesn't yield the same affect, but because exercise gives a person such an overall affect in the body, concern, awareness, and the vivid change motivate one to eat well. Not only have I proven this myself, the countless other people I've trained with agree.

One more thing: nothing will burn fat like exercise, NOTHING!

Pilgrum 01-28-2012 06:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NotforSale (Post 1133141)
I've been working out since I was a teenager, and I'm 51 years old. I cycle over 5000 miles annually, and enjoy a good weight lifting routine. I believe people have approached diet the wrong way. Yes, diet is important, but exercise is more important.

For instance, your heart is a muscle. Good diet will help, but exercise is what will condition the heart, increasing the hearts ability to pump nutritious blood and oxygen to the vital organs, muscles, and bones of the body. Exercise also causes the ABPM (Average Beats Per Minute) to decrease, allowing efficiency at the resting and maximum heart rate.

Also, when a person exercises they become concerned about their diet automatically. Dieting alone doesn't yield the same affect, but because exercise gives a person such an overall affect in the body, concern, awareness, and the vivid change motivate one to eat well. Not only have I proven this myself, the countless other people I've trained with agree.

One more thing: nothing will burn fat like exercise, NOTHING!

I wholeheartedly agree with everything said here. The overall feeling of wellness can be addicting. And that's a good addiction to have. Getting on the bicycle and pedaling 70 miles rocks.

The Matt 02-01-2012 06:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NotforSale (Post 1133141)
I've been working out since I was a teenager, and I'm 51 years old. I cycle over 5000 miles annually, and enjoy a good weight lifting routine. I believe people have approached diet the wrong way. Yes, diet is important, but exercise is more important.

For instance, your heart is a muscle. Good diet will help, but exercise is what will condition the heart, increasing the hearts ability to pump nutritious blood and oxygen to the vital organs, muscles, and bones of the body. Exercise also causes the ABPM (Average Beats Per Minute) to decrease, allowing efficiency at the resting and maximum heart rate.

Also, when a person exercises they become concerned about their diet automatically. Dieting alone doesn't yield the same affect, but because exercise gives a person such an overall affect in the body, concern, awareness, and the vivid change motivate one to eat well. Not only have I proven this myself, the countless other people I've trained with agree.

One more thing: nothing will burn fat like exercise, NOTHING!

51? Do you have white/grey hair? I always pictured you with jet black hair...long jet black hair...and a beard...

RandyWayne 02-01-2012 08:00 PM

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I usually work out to this song.

http://magicpcmedia.com/Music/Training.mp3

bbyrd009 02-01-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1134774)
I usually work out to this song.

http://magicpcmedia.com/Music/Training.mp3

hey is there any way to link, well, normal pages to here, randy?

The Matt 02-01-2012 08:06 PM

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I work out sans music. I suppose listening to I'm a Pentecostal and I'm Gonna Dance My Troubles Away would pump me up, but alas, no cds of either.

The Matt 02-01-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bbyrd009 (Post 1134776)
hey is there any way to link, well, normal pages to here, randy?

Have you tried pasting the link in the message box? It might automatically link it...

The Matt 02-01-2012 08:09 PM

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Ugh...crunches and pushups tonight. Any of you know any ab workouts that don't require equipment?

RandyWayne 02-01-2012 08:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1134777)
I work out sans music. I suppose listening to I'm a Pentecostal and I'm Gonna Dance My Troubles Away would pump me up, but alas, no cds of either.

Ya, but you need Mic or Apollo Creed shouting "No Pain! No Pain!" while your doing it!

RandyWayne 02-01-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1134779)
Ugh...crunches and pushups tonight. Any of you know any ab workouts that don't require equipment?

Of course, here is the quintessential work out theme!

http://magicpcmedia.com/Music/GonnaFlyNow.mp3

bbyrd009 02-01-2012 08:34 PM

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funny, the other one reminded me of rocky

RandyWayne 02-01-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bbyrd009 (Post 1134790)
funny, the other one reminded me of rocky

They're both from Rocky. Rocky IV and Rocky I-VI.

The Matt 02-01-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1134783)
Ya, but you need Mic or Apollo Creed shouting "No Pain! No Pain!" while your doing it!

Naaaah...I don't believe...if I were in the world, my kind of thing would be Slipknot, Disturbed, or Drowning Pool. Meh...don't miss them days. However, when I was taking American Freestyle Karate (and was in the best shape of my life) I remember I used to get pumped up to a wordless Mortal Kombat theme...:heeheehee

RandyWayne 02-01-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1134797)
Naaaah...I don't believe...if I were in the world, my kind of thing would be Slipknot, Disturbed, or Drowning Pool. Meh...don't miss them days. However, when I was taking American Freestyle Karate (and was in the best shape of my life) I remember I used to get pumped up to a wordless Mortal Kombat theme...:heeheehee

"Test your might!"

http://magicpcmedia.com/Music/TheImmortals.mp3

The Matt 02-01-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1134799)

Aaaaah nostalgia...why'd you send me this devil? Now I HAVE to finish listening to it.

AreYouReady? 02-01-2012 09:28 PM

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Matt, you must have green vegetables (organic, if possible) in your diet. Green vegetables is what helps your body to clean out toxins. Too much protein makes your blood pH acidic, thereby causing disease. Try to incorporate alkaline producing foods into your diet also.


T2W, if I could buy raw milk from someone I would, but the FDA has made the selling of raw milk illegal. Nobody here wants their farm raided. Therefore, I have to settle for pasteurized, but non homogenized milk from local farmers. It tastes so much better than what I buy in the store.

The Matt 02-01-2012 09:42 PM

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The only veggies I eat are green salads and corn. Can you give me some examples of battery producing food?:heeheehee

AreYouReady? 02-01-2012 10:05 PM

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I have been reading that virtually all yellow corn is genetically modified (roundup ready). I minimize the amount of corn I eat because they say the pesticide gene stays in your gut. They do not know what GMO corn can do to the human body because they did few, if any studies on this subject.

Here is a good list of which foods are alkalizing and which are acid producing when eaten.
Incidentally, corn is acid producing.

http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/acidalka.htm

The Matt 02-01-2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1134816)
I have been reading that virtually all yellow corn is genetically modified (roundup ready). I minimize the amount of corn I eat because they say the pesticide gene stays in your gut. They do not know what GMO corn can do to the human body because they did few, if any studies on this subject.

Here is a good list of which foods are alkalizing and which are acid producing when eaten.
Incidentally, corn is acid producing.

http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/acidalka.htm

Well I should be just fine, cause I don't believe in genes. :thumbsup (Disclaimer: If there was a wink without a thumbs up, I'd have put it.)
I took a look at the alkaline list...I can deal with green peas, lettuce, carrots. Other than that...:blah to all the rest. I'm not very sensitive to food...I don't get noticeable energy from carbs, I don't sleep better drinking milk before bed...

AreYouReady? 02-01-2012 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1134819)
Well I should be just fine, cause I don't believe in genes. :thumbsup (Disclaimer: If there was a wink without a thumbs up, I'd have put it.)

Huh? I guess I must be dense because I am not following your not believing in genes? What is that supposed to mean? You don't believe that there is genetic manipulation of our food by Monsanto?

The Matt 02-01-2012 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1134820)
Huh? I guess I must be dense because I am not following your not believing in genes? What is that supposed to mean? You don't believe that there is genetic manipulation of our food by Monsanto?

Was a reference to my arguements against evolution...just a joke. Thats what I meant by the lack of another winking smiley...

AreYouReady? 02-01-2012 10:20 PM

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Well, genetic manipulation is the result of splicing gene material from one chemical into the gene material of a vegetable.

Quite different from the evolution theory. I call it a theory because they cannot prove it scientifically.

The Matt 02-01-2012 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1134823)
Well, genetic manipulation is the result of splicing gene material from one chemical into the gene material of a vegetable.

Quite different from the evolution theory. I call it a theory because they cannot prove it scientifically.

I know, I was talking about supergenes in the evolution thread, bbyrd posted a picture of em and I made the comment that I could duplicate that picture if I had photoshop...I guess it was asking a lot for you to see that one specific comment. Sorry. Joke retracted.

The Matt 02-01-2012 10:38 PM

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Corn just had to be one of the four acidifying veggies eh? Ugh...oh well, not giving it up. I can work with the fruits and the nuts a good deal better than the veggies.

AreYouReady? 02-01-2012 10:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1134825)
I know, I was talking about supergenes in the evolution thread, bbyrd posted a picture of em and I made the comment that I could duplicate that picture if I had photoshop...I guess it was asking a lot for you to see that one specific comment. Sorry. Joke retracted.

No, not asking a lot. Not into evolution so I never read the thread. My ignorance. Just did not understand what you were saying.

Carry on my friend....:D

Titus2woman 02-01-2012 11:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1134810)
Matt, you must have green vegetables (organic, if possible) in your diet. Green vegetables is what helps your body to clean out toxins. Too much protein makes your blood pH acidic, thereby causing disease. Try to incorporate alkaline producing foods into your diet also.


T2W, if I could buy raw milk from someone I would, but the FDA has made the selling of raw milk illegal. Nobody here wants their farm raided. Therefore, I have to settle for pasteurized, but non homogenized milk from local farmers. It tastes so much better than what I buy in the store.

See if you can find someone who does low temp pasteurization at least.

Titus2woman 02-01-2012 11:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1134827)
Corn just had to be one of the four acidifying veggies eh? Ugh...oh well, not giving it up. I can work with the fruits and the nuts a good deal better than the veggies.

Green salads are great. Add spinach, arugla, bok choy, cabbage, celery, etc. Maybe try a smoothie with some green stuff in it.

Corn is all GMO now unless you buy heirloom corn from local farmers.... or better yet push a few seed under the earth yourself :)

The Matt 02-01-2012 11:59 PM

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My thumb is outer space black.


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