Were you crying
 

when you received the baptism of the Holyghost, with the evidence of speaking in tongues?

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nope

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No reason for that, because I was already saved because of what Christ did on the cross. :-)

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What was the setting, I am curious...anyone I've known has received it/him while literally crying out to God...

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Nope. I grinned a little but that was about it.

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I was 19 yrs old on my knees leaning over on my bed praying the following after weeks of tarrying "Lord if you ever answer a prayer of mine answer this one(Hoy ghost)" Felft something in my stomach then shut up out my mouth and spoke in tongues.

I was by myself.

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bible doesn't teach one must cry to received it. Believe and ask.

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Thats pretty cool, IMO. Thanks for sharing.



Agreed.

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I was not crying. As a teenager, I was kind of self-conscious.

To my dismay, I had been pushed down to the altar by an evangelist who informed me that he was "hot on my trail." I was uncomfortable and wanted to get away from the well-meaning, but pesky altar workers. So I started making stuttering noises, and they told me that it was tongues. Didn't feel much emotion at all that night.

Now, however, when I pray in tongues, I often feel more emotion.

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I remember this language. It recollects as being truth that was being overstated then, and now I know enough to note that a search of the bolded above has no returns? Little help, where does this edify? Where does it originate? It takes a beautiful gift and makes it some requirement. Sorry, this is a tender area, I bet. I'm just a pod, please do not answer this post.

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Very good point.

In the book of Acts, tongues and/or prophecy is often mentioned along with the baptism or filling of the Holy Spirit, but not always. We should be very careful not to go beyond Scripture.

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First time in an apostolic church. I sat 2nd or 3rd pew from the back. Presence of God was so thick in that place. I just broke down and bawled.

I did all my crying before... 1 pre service and 3 altar calls. Guess I had a lot to weep over.

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I guess everyone experiences the move of the HG different. I was crying when I received the HG. I was 9 years old though.

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No not crying... but "crying out" yes.

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I do not recall crying, although I have seen many children cry as they receive it. All I know is that I was kneeling at an altar praying during a youth camp, and I just gave praise and worship to Jesus, and after a while I began to speak in tongues.

I do believe that I spoke in tongues many times during that camp, but after I returned home, it seemed like it dried up. I remember not speaking in tongues again until I was at a special service (I do not know where), and I became very desperate. I told God, I want to speak in tongues again, I do not want to ever go for so long without having a touch of Your Spirit (put in the words of a 10-11 year old of course). I seem to remember the sectionaly presbyter laying his hands on me for a moment, and shortly after he left, I started speaking in tongues again (I do believe that I was crying by this point).

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I received the HolyGhost baptism in a trinitarian church. I wasn't crying. I was just standing and focusing on the worship when all of a sudden it was like fire engulfed me. My eyes were closed, but I could still see the fire. It was overwhelming joy and peace and love...

I was excited. Actually, to be exact, I was jumping after that experience. I spoke in tongues so much that day I did not want to stop. I went to work that evening and told everyone about Jesus Christ.

Man, that has been the best day of my life!!!

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I was five years old when I received the Holy Ghost, and I mostly remember my arms hurting more than anything! I think I had stood there for a while with my arms raised and two other 5-year-old friends were around me. I heard them speaking in tongues first, and then I heard myself speaking something that I didn't understand, and then everyone around me was jumping and praising God. I don't remember tears. But it was a wonderful experience. I could finally go to bed at night and not be afraid of the Lord coming back and me not going with Him! That was very scary to me at that point in my young life, and I think I had a lot of fear motivating me, but when I felt His presence that night, it was something I knew I wanted over and over and over again, and never wanted it to stop!!

About the tears and the Holy Ghost though, I do know one thing that has been true ever since. The best times and experiences I have had with God have been with tears, and tongues, and worshipping Him. There is no other joy in this life that can compare to your heart being washed with tears, and His presence flooding your soul!

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Having the touch of the Holy Spirit on your life is not related to one's number of speaking in tongues events - whether one believes in the initial evidence doctrine or not. David Bernard has also made this clear in some of his writings.

In fact, I believe one UPC General Superintendent has stated that he only spoke in tongues one time in his life.

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I agree with a portion of you post, but I do believe that a person should speak in tongues often. I am also a believer that even if a person does not speak in tongues with great regularity (and I do see problems with not doing so), a person should pray through to a renewing periodically.

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I take it you are differentiating between "periodically" and "regularly" speaking in tongues. The difference could be alot or a little or nothing - depending on who is talking. I think this (speaking in tongues beyond initial evidence) is indeed a measurement that many use today to estimate another's spirituality.

Not sure it has always been that way though...

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I think a person should pray thru to a renewing periodically too, if need be. I just don't think that tongues is necessarily involved with that...

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I would say that regularly is a bit more often than once a month, periodically then being once in who knows when. I agree that speaking in tongues should not be the only evidence used to judge a person's spiritual state. I have listened to people speak in tongues, and then say cruel things about the pastor and others in the church. However, I do believe that it is possible that after a time these people are actually backslidden and no longer truly filled with the Spirit, and many times, they have quit speaking in tongues before they finally leave the church.

I do believe that it is a good barometer perhaps for a person to know just how willing they are to be submitted to God. In learning to submit more, the rest comes more easily, and some of the most godly people I have known spoke in tongues more than once a week. (Which is not to say that I have not seen my share of fakes and flakes who imitate, or are so carnal that they do not know that they are backslid.)

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I'll go so far as saying today a UPC man would not be elected GS if he said he only spoke in tongues one time...

Similarly, if he verbalized the he did not believe one who had never spoken in tongues was lost - he would not be elected (perhaps not even accepted?)

Yet these are two past General Superintendents of the UPC.

What gives? More light? Less light? Evolving hermeneutics?

Or is it simply a matter of less tolerance? Hmmmmm....

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When electing a GS, you want someone who best represents your views.

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]"Similarly, if he verbalized that he did not believe one who had never spoken in tongues was lost - he would not be elected (perhaps not even accepted?) "

On this point, I see an increasing disconnect between the codified pulpit language and the individuals sincere beliefs. I was told by more than one three-stepper minister that they believe the Lord made provision for a non Pentecostal departed one...

So the questions remain. Why is this not something found in print and audio like it once was? Is there a fear of reprisal for not towing the line? A general atmosphere of intolerance? What gives? And why is this not seen as a simple return to the much touted "Old Paths"?

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Yes. So it calls into question whether there was always a high premium placed on speaking in tongues beyond the initial evidence.

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That's hard to believe. Which superintendents are you referring to?

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Well, I would say that these men likely were not agreed with most of the time on this issue. I am going to guess that the second would be Bro. Goss, as by his own record he spoke in tongues more than once.

I would not be certain who the second individual would be. Bro. Goss would have been an exception to the rule as he had long been a leader in the Pentecostal ranks. This gave him the credibility to win. Even when there were others who represented the majority view. Further if he is the one I believe mentioned, they were trying to balance the leadership of both groups. Bro. Goss' election to GS gave the PCI, a strong leadership position, just as Bro. Witherspoon being elected balanced with a man from the PAJC. It had nothing to do with doctrines, but everything to do with politics.

I believe that it was possibly an issue of tolerance rather than more/less light. I believe that eventually most ministers either came to believe in the absolute necessity of Acts 2:38, and many of those who had not eventually either left or died, and their heirs left the UPC. I am aware that not all did so, but I would say that this was likely what happened to them.

I do not believe that it calls into question the premium place, so much as it call into question the methods used to achieve that result.

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I was immersed in His love and yes, I was weeping. Using the word, "crying" can put the wrong spin to it...

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Yur right...If I could re-put a "weeping" in the title I would..

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Interesting video here, I just ran across. I think this young lady seems to be weeping quite a bit, as is with most kids that are praying agressively. I'm not real sure exactly how much of this is genuinely in the bible....but I have seen a lot of this type of "encouragement" from others around the alters. Just excited with her?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3lTP...eature=related

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I'm so glad no one has ever utube'd me.

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I do not like "movies" of people having
intimate encounters with God.

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Same here. I think I probly had about a 2-3' run of snot goin'.

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I love this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3XHk...eature=related

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I love it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8prDj...eature=related

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No matter how hard the white guy on the left is tryin to stay hooked up, he's just outta his league, plane and simple.lol

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Hey I can't dance,but I try sometimes.

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Nevermind the race of the worshippers.... I am not sure I get it, or want to be "hooked up". Are there people who look at something like this and say, "Yeah! I want that"?

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I like this one too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyWdK...eature=related