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Hoovie 02-09-2012 03:10 PM

Victoria Secrets Model Quits Because of Faith
 
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/smartphon...spx?id=8416322

The Matt 02-09-2012 03:12 PM

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When I hear that she's donated all the money she made off it to charity, then I'll be convinced...

Hoovie 02-09-2012 03:17 PM

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Obviously this move is not about money.

I think it's admirable personally.

The Matt 02-09-2012 03:31 PM

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A drug dealer decides to give up the life because of moral obligations. Let's say he found Jesus. He goes to church, pays his tithes, lives a holy life. But he never gives up the money he's built up for himself. He lives on his past drug dealings. Right? My point is it's very easy to make a moral decision, once you have the money.

Adam 02-09-2012 03:35 PM

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Yeah, that's right, let's all give our money away. You first, Matt.

The Matt 02-09-2012 03:40 PM

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I give all I can, thank you. I have no money built up from my past sins. And if I would, I'm a man who practices what he preaches. Every cent would first get ten percent paid to the church, then the rest donated to charity.

Adam 02-09-2012 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1136969)
I give all I can, thank you. I have no money built up from my past sins. And if I would, I'm a man who practices what he preaches. Every cent would first get ten percent paid to the church, then the rest donated to charity.

So, then the church and the poor then profit off the Victoria Secret model's work. Ok, gotcha.

bbyrd009 02-09-2012 03:53 PM

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Ah, the time-honored "Catholic" model, lol...
with apologies, they are very charitable...which brings up a point:

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1136969)
...Every cent would first get ten percent paid to the church, then the rest donated to charity.

You differentiate strangely there, for a Catholic...hmm
(nudgenudge)

And good fro her; I've done some work at their "trophy ranch," and...well, let's just say that if their stockholders knew what I know...

Truthseeker 02-09-2012 04:02 PM

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Maybe God is dealing with her heart? If its wrong for her to keep money then it be wrong for church to take ten percent.

Jay 02-09-2012 04:18 PM

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I see, so she will go from modelling under garments to bathing suits. (Oh, there is not that much difference.)

If she were wanting to be a real witness, she would drop the modelling all together and find another line of work. She is still selling her body for money, but this time it is not as obvious.

Dedicated Mind 02-09-2012 04:21 PM

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where are the pictures? we need to review her godliness thoroughly.

Truthseeker 02-09-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1136983)
I see, so she will go from modelling under garments to bathing suits. (Oh, there is not that much difference.)

If she were wanting to be a real witness, she would drop the modelling all together and find another line of work. She is still selling her body for money, but this time it is not as obvious.

Where do you get she's going to do swimsuits? I agree not much different, but maybe this one small step with God dealing with her? Hopefully.

Jay 02-09-2012 04:36 PM

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I was being somewhat tic. I have seen ads, and many times the same models that are modeling pants, skirts, shorts, shirts, blouses, etc. are also modeling the various bathing suits. It might be possible that she will avoid that (indeed that is my fervent desire), but I do not view it as being likely.

I tend to trust people only so far until I am convinced otherwise. I have seen too many 'conversion/reconversion' to trust anything said until it is proven. I will of course be praying that she stand by her decision.

Truthseeker 02-09-2012 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1136992)
I was being somewhat tic. I have seen ads, and many times the same models that are modeling pants, skirts, shorts, shirts, blouses, etc. are also modeling the various bathing suits. It might be possible that she will avoid that (indeed that is my fervent desire), but I do not view it as being likely.

I tend to trust people only so far until I am convinced otherwise. I have seen too many 'conversion/reconversion' to trust anything said until it is proven. I will of course be praying that she stand by her decision.

I'm just saying maybe it's genuine.

bbyrd009 02-09-2012 04:45 PM

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A case could be made that JC Penny legitimately needs lingerie models. But she did the right thing bailing from VS, imo...
And she earned the $ in good faith, if questionable morality; which she obviously has overcome. Keep it, I say.

Jay 02-09-2012 04:54 PM

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I am not going to judge her for keeping money that she gained (doubtless a lot). However, I do believe that she should choose an honest profession so that she is not prostituting herself in all but name.

I am glad that she left VS. I try to never look at their store if I am in the mall. Their hired harlots are too prominently displayed for the eyes of passing men and boys all of whom have very vivid recall of such pictures.

Hoovie 02-09-2012 05:02 PM

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She says, "I will still pursue modeling. I just want to be more wholesome about it, and the jobs that I choose are always going to be honoring the Lord"

I can't really do anything but respect this - in spite of my particular differences in exactly how that honor should be.

http://gma.yahoo.com/video/fashionbe...-28244133.html

Hoovie 02-09-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1136998)
I am not going to judge her for keeping money that she gained (doubtless a lot). However, I do believe that she should choose an honest profession so that she is not prostituting herself in all but name.

I am glad that she left VS. I try to never look at their store if I am in the mall. Their hired harlots are too prominently displayed for the eyes of passing men and boys all of whom have very vivid recall of such pictures.

Yeah, the spirit is willing... but I ain't no spirit!

Jay 02-09-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1137002)
Yeah, the spirit is willing... but I ain't no spirit!


That is the Truth!!

Truthseeker 02-09-2012 05:16 PM

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Make no provision for the flesh or to look at flesh. :)

Jay 02-09-2012 05:18 PM

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I take great care to not look at a woman's flesh, however I wish that women would show enough respect for me to make it more difficult to see.

RandyWayne 02-09-2012 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1137012)
I take great care to not look at a woman's flesh, however I wish that women would show enough respect for me to make it more difficult to see.

"George, you don't stare! You get a quick sense of them and then you look away!" -Jerry Seinfeld.

RandyWayne 02-09-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1136976)
Maybe God is dealing with her heart? If its wrong for her to keep money then it be wrong for church to take ten percent.

:thumbsup

I have had many friends who were Indians of various tribes and received their monthly "Indian Gaming" checks. You better believe that the church expected to be tithed from them!

Amanah 02-10-2012 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1137012)
I take great care to not look at a woman's flesh, however I wish that women would show enough respect for me to make it more difficult to see.

it's kind of funny when women get offended when a man doesn't look them in the eye, but accidently looks a bit lower, but they are dressed to show off their body, it's hypocritical in fact.

My sister is getting a concealed weapons permit because men yell things at her when the see her out running. I suggested maybe she should run in the gym where she is safer. How can you run down the street with a good deal of your skin showing and not expect worldly men to cat call?


1 Timothy 2:8-10

8 I desire then that (A)in every place the men should pray, (B)lifting (C)holy hands without anger or quarreling; 9 likewise also (D)that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, 10 (E)but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.

Jay 02-10-2012 03:50 AM

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Amanah, I agree. I have talked to a number of women, and they say that men look at them as being sex objects. When I get close to mentioning the way that they dress provokes that in a man, they turn and bite my head off saying that a man should be able to not look.

I hate to say it, but any guy (gay or straight) is going to look at a nearly naked woman. We can not help being the visual creatures that we are.

Truthseeker 02-10-2012 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1137159)
Amanah, I agree. I have talked to a number of women, and they say that men look at them as being sex objects. When I get close to mentioning the way that they dress provokes that in a man, they turn and bite my head off saying that a man should be able to not look.

I hate to say it, but any guy (gay or straight) is going to look at a nearly naked woman. We can not help being the visual creatures that we are.

So true. women know why they dress a certain way.

Jay 02-10-2012 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1137170)
So true. women know why they dress a certain way.


For some reason they resent being called on it though.

AmericanAngel 02-10-2012 08:21 AM

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I hear ya...les skin is more modest....but this is the free world, 21st century...we could just dress all our women in Burka's.....:blink

or burlap...

TGBTG 02-10-2012 08:27 AM

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Of course Christian women should dress modestly, but I can guarantee you that even in countries where women are covered head to toe in burka's, men still lust after the women....

Lust is primarily in the heart, and can only be dealt with through the Power of the Holy Spirit.

The Lemon 02-10-2012 08:28 AM

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Well, getting back to the money part of the thread....I think the spirit is getting tossed aside for the letter. Here is the problem with many in Christendom...somebody makes a step in the right direction (Emphasis on STEP), and what do alot of folks do...pick apart the persons percieved intent, as if any of us knows the whole story.

Sure it could be smoke and mirrors...but it could also be heartfelt, and the Lord really could be dealing with her, but no, lets toss that aside and talk about how if it was REALLY God she would dispose of all her income earned in this "sinful way", pay her Tithe, etc. What a trip! The spirit gets lost on the letter, and many of these posts are case in point.

I think we are really good at the do's and don'ts, but miss it many times on the spirit issues. It may be God is working a work in a slow step process in this person's life..we ought to at least be greatful she is laying asid some kind of weight and giving God the credit..

RandyWayne 02-10-2012 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Lemon (Post 1137194)
Well, getting back to the money part of the thread....I think the spirit is getting tossed aside for the letter. Here is the problem with many in Christendom...somebody makes a step in the right direction (Emphasis on STEP), and what do alot of folks do...pick apart the persons percieved intent, as if any of us knows the whole story.

Sure it could be smoke and mirrors...but it could also be heartfelt, and the Lord really could be dealing with her, but no, lets toss that aside and talk about how if it was REALLY God she would dispose of all her income earned in this "sinful way", pay her Tithe, etc. What a trip! The spirit gets lost on the letter, and many of these posts are case in point.

I think we are really good at the do's and don'ts, but miss it many times on the spirit issues. It may be God is working a work in a slow step process in this person's life..we ought to at least be greatful she is laying asid some kind of weight and giving God the credit..

For a woman who is used to modeling VS, simply moving to something even a bit more covering probably feels modest. If you give a tank top to a woman from Africa or the Amazon who is used to going topless she probably now feels as covered and "modest" as a Muslim woman in a burka. Modesty is (for the most part) relative. Basically I am agreeing with your post 100%. :)

RandyWayne 02-10-2012 09:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1137153)
it's kind of funny when women get offended when a man doesn't look them in the eye, but accidently looks a bit lower, but they are dressed to show off their body, it's hypocritical in fact.

My sister is getting a concealed weapons permit because men yell things at her when the see her out running. I suggested maybe she should run in the gym where she is safer. How can you run down the street with a good deal of your skin showing and not expect worldly men to cat call?


1 Timothy 2:8-10

8 I desire then that (A)in every place the men should pray, (B)lifting (C)holy hands without anger or quarreling; 9 likewise also (D)that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, 10 (E)but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.

It is like the "blessed" woman who wears the tight t-shirt with the words "Yes, they're real!" written across the front. On a few occasions when talking to a person like that I've made it obvious I was reading it rather then letting them see you do the quick 1/4 second glance.

BrotherEastman 02-10-2012 09:38 AM

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I commend this woman whether or not she gives money to charitable things, besides who says she isn't?

RandyWayne 02-10-2012 10:02 AM

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Isn't this where Rhoni would pop on and claim all men beasts for daring to look regardless of what they were wearing?

(I really liked her... I just remember her being rather extreme on this one issue. Is she still around on any other boards?)

Adam 02-10-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 1137213)
I commend this woman whether or not she gives money to charitable things, besides who says she isn't?

I condemn this woman, too, brother. Oh, wait...

CC1 02-10-2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1137234)
Isn't this where Rhoni would pop on and claim all men beasts for daring to look regardless of what they were wearing?

(I really liked her... I just remember her being rather extreme on this one issue. Is she still around on any other boards?)

I see her on FB. She seems to be doing well.

houston 02-10-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1137264)
I see her on FB. She seems to be doing well.

Is she single? :happydance

Jay 02-10-2012 05:18 PM

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I am not faulting her for taking a step, however, I am going to wait until we see how far this goes. I would like to see her continue on this path until she leaves modelling all together.

Sherri 02-10-2012 05:33 PM

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Well, I for one say PRAISE THE LORD! She became convicted and is moving in the right direction. There's nothing wrong with modeling as long as you don't model immodest clothes. I believe God is working on this young lady and I applaud her decision.

Hoovie 02-10-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 1137327)
Well, I for one say PRAISE THE LORD! She became convicted and is moving in the right direction. There's nothing wrong with modeling as long as you don't model immodest clothes. I believe God is working on this young lady and I applaud her decision.

I agree totally.

Just God forbid she asks to be on a L&T platform... :)


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