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Dordrecht 02-24-2012 08:18 PM

Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
http://www.jpost.com/International/A...aspx?id=259168

RandyWayne 02-24-2012 08:34 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
And old Bam bam won't lift a finger to help most likely.

Dordrecht 02-24-2012 08:38 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Let me get this straight folks...Iran is going to kill this innocent man because he won't renounce his faith,
but now they are going to start killing people in Afghanistan because they burned their Book.
And Obama is apologizing to them already. BUT HE SAYS NOTHING ABOUT THIS POOR PASTOR YOUCEF!!

Dordrecht 02-24-2012 08:54 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
http://aclj.org/iran/keeping-pastor-youcef-in-the-news

The Matt 02-24-2012 09:00 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
This might seem cold, but he knew the risk he was taking going into a primarily Muslim country preaching the gospel. I respect him, but he knew the dangers for taking the stand he did.

Michael The Disciple 02-24-2012 09:05 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
YHWH will honor him for his stand.

houston 02-24-2012 09:07 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1141313)
YHWH will honor him for his stand.

Even though he's a Branhamite?

Dordrecht 02-24-2012 09:10 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1141311)
This might seem cold, but he knew the risk he was taking going into a primarily Muslim country preaching the gospel. I respect him, but he knew the dangers for taking the stand he did.

The way I understand it is that he is born and raised in Iran and converted to Christianity.
According to the Koran, if one is born in a muslim family, one cannot depart from that religion without severe punishment.
(That's what I am told anyways.)

houston 02-24-2012 09:13 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1141311)
This might seem cold, but he knew the risk he was taking going into a primarily Muslim country preaching the gospel. I respect him, but he knew the dangers for taking the stand he did.

Stating that you respect the man does not take away from the ignorance of this comment.

The Matt 02-24-2012 09:16 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Well I'm not saying it's right in any way, I'm just saying he knew.

houston 02-24-2012 09:19 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1141319)
Well I'm not saying it's right in any way, I'm just saying he knew.

Is there a point that you're trying to make?

The Matt 02-24-2012 09:22 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Yeah, how can stating he knew what he was getting himself into be an ignorant statement? Are you saying he had no idea?

houston 02-24-2012 09:24 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1141322)
Yeah, how can stating he knew what he was getting himself into be an ignorant statement? Are you saying he had no idea?

Your statement... what was the purpose of your statement? Did you not have anything else to say?

The Matt 02-24-2012 09:29 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
The purpose was before everyone starts talking about the bloodthirsty Muslim Iranians, understand he was in an extremely anti Christian country preaching the gospel. And I'm sure he knew the laws and customs. It isn't America.
Ignorant: Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.
This wasn't ignorance, this was reality.

houston 02-24-2012 09:55 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1141326)
The purpose was before everyone starts talking about the bloodthirsty Muslim Iranians, understand he was in an extremely anti Christian country preaching the gospel. And I'm sure he knew the laws and customs. It isn't America.
Ignorant: Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.
This wasn't ignorance, this was reality.

So he shouldn't have preached the gospel... OR... maybe he should have renounced his faith?

The Matt 02-24-2012 10:15 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1141332)
So he shouldn't have preached the gospel... OR... maybe he should have renounced his faith?

I didn't say that. I didn't say anything other than he knew what he was getting himself into. You can twist what I said any way you like though.

Dordrecht 02-24-2012 10:28 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
For crying out loud, the Lord must have called him to preach!
I am sure he would not preach without the calling.
Be careful what you say Matt, this could be you sometime in the future in the united States!!!

houston 02-24-2012 11:28 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1141335)
I didn't say that. I didn't say anything other than he knew what he was getting himself into. You can twist what I said any way you like though.

Great. So there was no point to your ignorant comment. You just wanted to post on this thread.

Michael The Disciple 02-25-2012 12:39 AM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1141314)
Even though he's a Branhamite?

Did HE say "I am a Branhamite"? What does it mean to be one? Did YHWH honor William Branham?

Jay 02-25-2012 02:52 AM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dordrecht (Post 1141336)
For crying out loud, the Lord must have called him to preach!
I am sure he would not preach without the calling.
Be careful what you say Matt, this could be you sometime in the future in the united States!!!


There is nothing good that I can see in our future as a nation. If we are granted four years of reprieve, that is all it will be.

We have only just begun to see the persecution that will blanket this land from one end to the other. How long is it before they tell the pastor what he may or may not preach, and who he will or will not perform a marriage ceremony for? How long before they take young people to 'educate' them and turn them into spies for the state sitting in your very home?

Look long and well at Nazi Germany. There is your future written.

Michael The Disciple 02-25-2012 03:10 AM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1141362)
There is nothing good that I can see in our future as a nation. If we are granted four years of reprieve, that is all it will be.

We have only just begun to see the persecution that will blanket this land from one end to the other. How long is it before they tell the pastor what he may or may not preach, and who he will or will not perform a marriage ceremony for? How long before they take young people to 'educate' them and turn them into spies for the state sitting in your very home?

Look long and well at Nazi Germany. There is your future written.

You are so right. It would be nice to get 4 more decent years. Yet we know America is crying for judgment. We know all nations must hate the disciples of Jesus before the end comes.:highfive

Michael The Disciple 02-25-2012 03:13 AM

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I have been praying for this man. Yes for his deliverance but if need be for much grace (Gods favor) that he would glorify the name of Jesus Christ in his death. The scriptures show us our death can be for the glory of Christ.

Jay 02-25-2012 03:30 AM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Revelation says that Satan is at war with the Jews and the Christians and is filled with great fury because his time is short. I do not believe that there will be very many left who do not embrace the whole truth and still call themselves Christian before Jesus comes.

I have also been praying for this man. The day comes when the earth will be filled to capacisty with the blood of martyrs. And when that day comes, God will call it up and will give it to those who afflicted the Church.

UnTraditional 02-25-2012 05:03 AM

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I am actively part of the Twitter campaign and have it so that my tweets are also posted on Facebook as well. We need to pray for this Pastor, and support him.

UnTraditional 02-25-2012 05:05 AM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1141317)
Stating that you respect the man does not take away from the ignorance of this comment.

Agreed. Sorry, but that was a really ignorant comment.

Austin 02-25-2012 06:09 AM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
These muslims are the spirit of anti-christ. None of us at any time should accept them or receive them. What fellowship does light have with darkness.

We are to tell them to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins.

The Jews also are the spirit of anti-christ and they too have a belief to put to death certain people for certain things, however they can't practice that in most countries.

But someone is going to say" We need to love them the same as we love everyone else.


You can, I'm telling them to believe on the Lord Jesus , repent, be baptised in the Name of Jesus Christ and receive the remission of their sins by faith. Or hell will be their portion.

What kind of idiot would believe by killing a certain amount of people that they will have virgins in what they believe to be heaven? Da!!~

Austin 02-25-2012 06:11 AM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UnTraditional (Post 1141372)
I am actively part of the Twitter campaign and have it so that my tweets are also posted on Facebook as well. We need to pray for this Pastor, and support him.


AMEN, and his family if he had one, after all, he had more guts than half of the so called christians in this country.:nod

CC1 02-25-2012 06:55 AM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dordrecht (Post 1141316)
The way I understand it is that he is born and raised in Iran and converted to Christianity.
According to the Koran, if one is born in a muslim family, one cannot depart from that religion without severe punishment.
(That's what I am told anyways.)

It always amazes me that liberals in America have so much tolerance for Islam when it is an incredibly cruel and misogynistic religion.

The Obamaination has bent over backwards to appease the Muslim world and all it has done is given us even less respect in the Middle East.

The only thing the cultures in the Middle East understand is strength and power. They see anyone or anything weak as something to be despised and taken advantage of .

Obama is quick to apologize for the burning of those Korans in Afghanistan but does not demand that the Afghan President apologize for the murder of American soldiers by Afghan soldiers in response to it.

Dordrecht 02-25-2012 10:13 AM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
More here:

http://aclj.org/iran/pastor-youcef-nadarkhanis-story

Me and my family are praying for this pastor, his wife and children.

Orthodoxy 02-28-2012 12:47 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Interesting that Pastor Youcef denies the Trinity. I didn't realize he was Oneness.

http://www.mohabatnews.com/index.php...s&view=article

houston 02-28-2012 01:05 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orthodoxy (Post 1142416)
Interesting that Pastor Youcef denies the Trinity. I didn't realize he was Oneness.

http://www.mohabatnews.com/index.php...s&view=article

Branhamite. This was discussed on AFF when he was jailed.

The Matt 02-28-2012 01:09 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1141344)
Great. So there was no point to your ignorant comment. You just wanted to post on this thread.

It can be argued the only reason you posted what you said was to argue. Why do people say anything on a forum site other than to post on a thread? What would YOU have me say, if not my thoughts? Shall I conform? Oh I'm praying for this great and wise man of God, Lord deliver him from the mouth of the enemy. Much more betta?

trialedbyfire 02-28-2012 01:09 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Austin (Post 1141375)
These muslims are the spirit of anti-christ. None of us at any time should accept them or receive them. What fellowship does light have with darkness.

We are to tell them to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins.

The Jews also are the spirit of anti-christ and they too have a belief to put to death certain people for certain things, however they can't practice that in most countries.

But someone is going to say" We need to love them the same as we love everyone else.


You can, I'm telling them to believe on the Lord Jesus , repent, be baptised in the Name of Jesus Christ and receive the remission of their sins by faith. Or hell will be their portion.

What kind of idiot would believe by killing a certain amount of people that they will have virgins in what they believe to be heaven? Da!!~

It's a completely demonic and violent religion.

They do not "serve the same god as we". Their god is a demonic pagan god.

Pastor Rod Parsely (yes I know he's not Oneness but I like his preaching), called it for what it was years ago and people laughed at him. Now people are starting to wake up now that it's almost too late. There was an atheist in Pannsylvania that was attacked by a Muslim because he was wearing a "Zombie Muhammed" costume. The judge didn't prosecute the muslim attacker because the man in the costume according to him didn't have the right to offend the mohammadists. Sharia Law in the West is happening people. Let's wake up.

Jermyn Davidson 02-28-2012 10:00 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dordrecht (Post 1141304)
Let me get this straight folks...Iran is going to kill this innocent man because he won't renounce his faith,
but now they are going to start killing people in Afghanistan because they burned their Book.
And Obama is apologizing to them already. BUT HE SAYS NOTHING ABOUT THIS POOR PASTOR YOUCEF!!

Your are mixing apples, grapefruit and mustard greens.

Jermyn Davidson 02-28-2012 10:01 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dordrecht (Post 1141336)
For crying out loud, the Lord must have called him to preach!
I am sure he would not preach without the calling.
Be careful what you say Matt, this could be you sometime in the future in the united States!!!

Oh Puh-leeze!

Jermyn Davidson 02-28-2012 10:03 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1141344)
Great. So there was no point to your ignorant comment. You just wanted to post on this thread.

There wasn't anything ignorant about his comment.

It could have read a bit cold, but I doubt that was Matt's purpose. He didn't add the "drinking the cup of coffee" icon to the end of his statement.

Jermyn Davidson 02-28-2012 10:05 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1141362)
There is nothing good that I can see in our future as a nation. If we are granted four years of reprieve, that is all it will be.

We have only just begun to see the persecution that will blanket this land from one end to the other. How long is it before they tell the pastor what he may or may not preach, and who he will or will not perform a marriage ceremony for? How long before they take young people to 'educate' them and turn them into spies for the state sitting in your very home?

Look long and well at Nazi Germany. There is your future written.

Well good grief!

I don't understand how you can make this statement and be serious!

Jermyn Davidson 02-28-2012 10:11 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1141386)
It always amazes me that liberals in America have so much tolerance for Islam when it is an incredibly cruel and misogynistic religion.

The Obamaination has bent over backwards to appease the Muslim world and all it has done is given us even less respect in the Middle East.

The only thing the cultures in the Middle East understand is strength and power. They see anyone or anything weak as something to be despised and taken advantage of .

Obama is quick to apologize for the burning of those Korans in Afghanistan but does not demand that the Afghan President apologize for the murder of American soldiers by Afghan soldiers in response to it.

Since when does any nation apologize to the other nation for their soldiers killing each other when those two nations are at war against each other?

The Matt 02-28-2012 10:23 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1142523)
There wasn't anything ignorant about his comment.

It could have read a bit cold, but I doubt that was Matt's purpose. He didn't add the "drinking the cup of coffee" icon to the end of his statement.

Thank you. I'm glad someone got where I was coming from.

Jermyn Davidson 02-28-2012 10:35 PM

Re: Hanging of a Pastor in Iran.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1142539)
Thank you. I'm glad someone got where I was coming from.

Jesus tells us to count the costs before following Him, because there are costs.

I typed a few questions, but deleted them and decided to simply ask, "Am I ready?"


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