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SDG 05-20-2007 02:12 PM

Can THIS GUY minister on your platform ....
 
Scenario:

.... someone converts genuinely.... has been faithful for over a year
.... is showing good fruit
.... tithing substantially
.... bring folks to church
....is practicing dress standards
.... he/she is also very gifted and wants to join the music ministry on the platform ....


BUT .... has one little problem .....

http://www.boingboing.net/200610051221.jpg


if he takes off the earrings .... can he minister on the platform ..... ????

Hoovie 05-20-2007 02:15 PM

:laffatu :woot
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 121065)
Scenario:

.... someone converts genuinely.... has been faithful for over a year
.... is showing good fruit
.... tithing substantially
.... bring folks to church
....is practicing dress standards
.... he/she is also very gifted and wants to join the music ministry on the platform ....


BUT .... has one little problem .....

http://www.boingboing.net/200610051221.jpg


if he takes off the earrings .... can he minister on the platform ..... ????


Ron 05-20-2007 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 121065)
Scenario:

.... someone converts genuinely.... has been faithful for over a year
.... is showing good fruit
.... tithing substantially
.... bring folks to church
....is practicing dress standards
.... he/she is also very gifted and wants to join the music ministry on the platform ....


BUT .... has one little problem .....

http://www.boingboing.net/200610051221.jpg


if he takes off the earrings .... can he minister on the platform ..... ????


Laser removal of tattos while not perfect, works wonders!

SDG 05-20-2007 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 121070)
Laser removal of tattos while not perfect, works wonders!

You would insist he have expensive surgery before blessing your church w/ his ministry????

If he refuses ??? this can be painful and even dangerous ..... or what if he can't afford it?

SDG 05-20-2007 02:18 PM

Do we require others that minister w/ other body tattoos to remove them first ????

SDG 05-20-2007 02:19 PM

Are we willing to turn him away ... ????

BrotherEastman 05-20-2007 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 121065)
Scenario:

.... someone converts genuinely.... has been faithful for over a year
.... is showing good fruit
.... tithing substantially
.... bring folks to church
....is practicing dress standards
.... he/she is also very gifted and wants to join the music ministry on the platform ....


BUT .... has one little problem .....

http://www.boingboing.net/200610051221.jpg


if he takes off the earrings .... can he minister on the platform ..... ????

I don't see why not. But, honestly Dan, how many of these guys do you know? Would you use him?

berkeley 05-20-2007 02:28 PM

Yes! If I was a pastor I'd allow him on the platform to minister! God is a merciful God! If God saved him, who am I to tell him that he can't minister because of his past mistakes?

CupCake 05-20-2007 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 121065)
Scenario:

.... someone converts genuinely.... has been faithful for over a year
.... is showing good fruit
.... tithing substantially
.... bring folks to church
....is practicing dress standards
.... he/she is also very gifted and wants to join the music ministry on the platform ....


BUT .... has one little problem .....


if he takes off the earrings .... can he minister on the platform ..... ????


If what you say is true I'd see no problem with it~

CupCake 05-20-2007 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 121080)
Yes! If I was a pastor I'd allow him on the platform to minister! God is a merciful God! If God saved him, who am I to tell him that he can't minister because of his past mistakes?


Very true, it be like telling a burn victim no, due to their outward~

SDG 05-20-2007 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 121079)
I don't see why not. But, honestly Dan, how many of these guys do you know? Would you use him?

He's got the same Holy Ghost ... I've got ... Easty .... I'd use him in a heartbeat as a testimony of what God can do ...with any man.

berkeley 05-20-2007 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupCake (Post 121084)

Very true, it be like telling a burn victim no, due to their outward~


maybe I'm just too accepting of people....


Luke 12:48
But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.


Luke 7:47
Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.

CupCake 05-20-2007 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 121088)

maybe I'm just too accepting of people....


Luke 12:48
But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.


Luke 7:47
Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.


I like to believe in the best in people, yes it has been my downfall at times~ Yet I still want to believe .....;)

Praxeas 05-20-2007 03:05 PM

Id put him in the childrens ministry and name him Mr Rainbow

berkeley 05-20-2007 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 121103)
Id put him in the childrens ministry and name him Mr Rainbow

"Mr. Rainbow" has gay connotations.

Praxeas 05-20-2007 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 121106)
"Mr. Rainbow" has gay connotations.

Mr Sunshine?

berkeley 05-20-2007 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 121107)
Mr Sunshine?

think of something that would grab the attention of a modern child....

SDG 05-20-2007 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 121103)
Id put him in the childrens ministry and name him Mr Rainbow

what if this guy is majorly anointed and can flat out preach ... can he? Can he ever preach General Conference????

berkeley 05-20-2007 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 121112)
what if this guy is majorly anointed and can flat out preach ... can he? Can he ever preach General Conference????

He can't preach at General Conference. Not my rules. You know the way they operate... need someone who puts on a show... says the right catch phrases... the cheerleader...

CupCake 05-20-2007 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 121113)
He can't preach at General Conference. Not my rules. You know the way they operate... need someone who puts on a show... says the right catch phrases... the cheerleader...

It's that color red, it get you booted every time....;)

berkeley 05-20-2007 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupCake (Post 121117)
It's that color red, it get you booted every time....;)

wot?

CupCake 05-20-2007 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 121119)
wot?

Some preach against wearing the color red, you know the devil color, his face has hint of red....;)

berkeley 05-20-2007 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupCake (Post 121125)
Some preach against wearing the color red, you know the devil color, his face has hint of red....;)

LoL! They are still preaching against "red"?

CupCake 05-20-2007 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 121126)
LoL! They are still preaching against "red"?

Just think the devil had 64 color to pick from and he chose red....Color me ~:killinme

http://www.tlbms.com/blog/wp-images/64crayons.jpg

berkeley 05-20-2007 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupCake (Post 121131)
Just think the devil had 64 color to pick from and he chose red....Color me ~:killinme

http://www.tlbms.com/blog/wp-images/64crayons.jpg

:lol

Praxeas 05-20-2007 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 121110)
think of something that would grab the attention of a modern child....

Freaky Freddie?

berkeley 05-20-2007 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 121137)
Freaky Freddie?

:sing

Felicity 05-20-2007 04:14 PM

I personally think that his appearance would distract from his message.

I have to seriously wonder about somebody that would disfigure himself in that manner. I believe it strongly contradicts the "moderation/modesty" principle that's taught so clearly throughout scripture.

Personally, I wouldn't care to have someone who looks like that on the platform. He would definitely be an example of how a Christian ought NOT to look rather than the other way around and I'd hate for other young people to look to him as a role model and find excuse why it would be okay for them to disfigure themselves even if it was to a much much lesser degree.

SDG 05-20-2007 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 121173)
I personally think that his appearance would distract from his message.

I have to seriously wonder about somebody that would disfigure himself in that manner. I believe it strongly contradicts the "moderation/modesty" principle that's taught so clearly throughout scripture.

Personally, I wouldn't care to have someone who looks like that on the platform. He would definitely be an example of how a Christian ought NOT to look rather than the other way around and I'd hate for other young people to look to him as a role model and find excuse why it would be okay for them to disfigure themselves even if it was to a much much lesser degree.

BUT .... obviously this was done before coming to Christ ... what if someone disfigured/burned their face from FREE-BASING ... would it be any different???

berkeley 05-20-2007 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 121173)
I personally think that his appearance would distract from his message.

I have to seriously wonder about somebody that would disfigure himself in that manner. I believe it strongly contradicts the "moderation/modesty" principle that's taught so clearly throughout scripture.

Personally, I wouldn't care to have someone who looks like that on the platform. He would definitely be an example of how a Christian ought NOT to look rather than the other way around and I'd hate for other young people to look to him as a role model and find excuse why it would be okay for them to disfigure themselves even if it was to a much much lesser degree.

Ridiculous!! You would hold his past mistakes against him!! Or maybe you didn't read that he did this pre-conversion!!

Praxeas 05-20-2007 04:23 PM

What if Jan the Crouch had her face permanently tattooed to look like makeup?

Felicity 05-20-2007 04:25 PM

Oops, sorry guys. I didn't realize he did that to himself :eek: before getting borned again. And I haven't read through this thread.

SDG 05-20-2007 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 121183)
What if Jan the Crouch had her face permanently tattooed to look like makeup?


this is possible .... some woman have chosen to do so ....

Brett Prince 05-20-2007 04:28 PM

I have no idea what I would do. I would have to hear from God and sense his spirit--that is, the man's spirit.

berkeley 05-20-2007 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett Prince (Post 121190)
I have no idea what I would do. I would have to hear from God and sense his spirit--that is, the man's spirit.

You would doubt his conversion, is what you're saying!

berkeley 05-20-2007 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 121183)
What if Jan the Crouch had her face permanently tattooed to look like makeup?

If she does this before conversion, then sure, she can speak to the ladies :)

CupCake 05-20-2007 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 121179)
Ridiculous!! You would hold his past mistakes against him!! Or maybe you didn't read that he did this pre-conversion!!

I really don't have issues with it, look around God loves color...So we call him the Rainbow Man~

Praxeas 05-20-2007 04:36 PM

Should they be clear they renounce what they did?

berkeley 05-20-2007 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 121207)
Should they be clear they renounce what they did?

Do you make it clear that you renounce everything that you did?

SDG 05-20-2007 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 121207)
Should they be clear they renounce what they did?

Someone at GNC said they should have to make a disclaimer in every sermon/teaching .... I think that's ridiculous ... do other preachers give disclaimers before every message for their past mistakes ....

We love to ostracize people!!!!!!!!!


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