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According to Wikipedia.org, the New International Bible (NIV) is the most popular Bible version today.
What Zondervan Publishers won't DARE tell you is that they are OWNED by Harper Collins,
who also publishes The Satanic Bible and The Joy of Gay Sex.

Doesn't it seem odd to anyone with a brain and a love for Christ that the world's largest Bible publisher (Zondervan) is owned by the same company, HarperCollins, that publishes The Satanic Bible and The Joy of Gay Sex."

I found the above statement somewhere while looking for scriptures on the internet. Is this true??

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Amen! Not a bit odd to me, and the NIV, imo, is DOA.

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I'm reading the ESV now on recommendation of someone on this forum, and I'm enjoying it, I have the Study Bible, and also the One Year Bible, in the ESV version.

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I like ESV, it often seems to produce a more...fluid? interpretation.
Not to hijack, but I'd be curious of any opinions about the Companion Bible?

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Here is my problem with what you posted

1) you just make a statement but don't back this up with references
2) Zondervan published the NIV not Harper Collins
3) Harper Collins is owned by another group. This is called a conglomerate and usually results from one larger group buying out another. HC may have bought out Zon longer after the NIV was published.
4)Publishing does not mean producing. A publisher takes the work someone else did and "publishes" it
5) Conglomerates are about MONEY. If you owned a company that sold stuff to every facet of society, you are making a LOT of money. That explains why this company publishes all these works. It does not prove the NIV is corrupt. It just proves capitalism is alive and well

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I do not think there is anything wrong with Zondervan. However, I personally do not really care for the NIV. I attended a Bible College last year, and unfortunately, our study of Paul's prison epistles...was based on a commentary series from the NIV. I usually prefer the good old KJV, NKJB and sometimes NASB. I have found that the NKJ and NASB will give me a better understanding sometimes of things I have read over and over with only partial understanding in the KJ. Although...I think my understanding of the KJ is pretty good.
But....what I have found with the NIV.....and the 'commentary'......is that: If I am not reading the NIV....I do not need the commmentary. The NIV in my opinion removes/hides the intended meaning. It may as well be written in latin and go back to the dark ages when only the priests were able to read and understand scripture and the common people were to blindly accept thier interpretation...and very often 'manipulations' of the people.

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I remeber many people freaking out ovah the NIV. It's corrupt, satanic, etc.

Most were of the KJV ONLY crowd.

There were several concerns over words that were removed or replaced with other words.

I believe Jason Dulle wrote an article putting to rest the concerns that were raised.

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Another problem with the NIV is the move to a gender neutral bible. In doing this, they have abandoned the position of translating the Bible as close as possible in English from the original manuscripts. I would not touch the NIV now with a ten foot rod.

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Zondervan includes Oneness Pentecostalism in their Guide to Cults book. I find that a lot more insulting then their parent company publishing trash. Walmart sells pornographic material, I still shop there. There are just not enough businesses that support Christian ethics and morals anymore to be able to avoid using some ungodly company but I don't have to support one that deliberately calls my faith a cult.

Oh and I like The Christian Bible and the NASB.

And the Bible is more gender neutral then one might think if they were spoon fed the KJV :)

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yes I can but I figured most people are intelligent enough to know what the word publisher meant. Does it matter if Zondervan is Christian or not? Who translated it? Do you know?

Publisher: a person or company whose business is the publishing of books, periodicals, engravings, computer software, etc

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/publisher

Translator: Someone who translates
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/translators

What else do you need to know?

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BTW Zondervan does not own the copyrights

THE HOLY BIBLE, NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION®, NIV® Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.™ Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide.

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Do you really care who prints the book? O.o

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(Here, we're a big MultiNat, and we're selling porn over there, and we're printing this..."Bible" over here, nothing to see, move along)

The NIV being biblecc's default translation is my chief complaint with them.
And I could no longer shop at Wally World after returning from the Mid East, and recollecting what we used to have...

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What do you consider pornographic?

My opinion is that R rated movies with full frontal nudity and simulated scenes of sexual intercourse are pornographic and yes they sell them and they are not even hidden in a back room. Raunchy magazines with nearly naked models showing much more than could ever be construed as biblically decent... they have those too, right on the front check out counters. My point is that just about every business is worldly and controlled by profit. If you banned all that are unethical, etc. you would be hard pressed to buy food, clothing or fill up your car.

It is one of the reasons I grow nearly all my own food. I do not agree with big Ag poisoning humans to turn a profit, or with animals being tortured to feed me. So I am not saying don't take a stand but realize that things like pornography go much further than little places with a back room and if you really want to make a statement against pornography with your money you will have to sacrifice past just not buying a certain version of the bible. Indeed it will affect where you shop, what you watch, etc.

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So if what you described as pornographic at Walmart is true pornography, the pray tell what description do you reserve for true Full <thunka thunka thunka> Porn? It is like the age old question, if you call everyone you disagree with a Nazi, then what do you call a real Nazi when you see one?

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Zondervan does not publish the Satanic bible or whatever it was

Zondervan did not translate the NIV

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You think Christians can operate their businesses as if they were NOT Christians, for instance, should a Christian operate a video store where they rent out porno movies....uh? ...free enterprise...capitalistic system?

What does that have to do with WHO translated the NIV?

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In our area a fellow operated a magazine distributing business (what are magazines?), he found out there were porno mags in the system and he kicked them out.

Again what does that have to do with the quality of the NIV?

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It's a translation, like any other, and has its flaws, is known by its fruit?
Its translation of Ezekiel 13:18-20, "...birds?" is just a little worse than the KJV "Easter," imo.

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The NIV version of Acts 2:38 is a little iffy, I have to admit:

"Peter replied, 'Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. But don't even think about speaking in tongues!'"

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LOL