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scotty 03-01-2012 04:22 PM

UN proposes planetary regulation of food & water.
 
An environmental report issued by an agency of the United Nations last month has some critics sounding the alarm, saying it is a clarion call for "global governance" over how the Earth is managed.


But its critics see an agenda lurking in its 60 pages, which call for a complete overhaul of how the world's food and water are created and distributed

options that include new “constitutional frameworks,” “international protocols” and a “shared vision” for land and water management that essentially rewire existing treaties and governments.

But the group insists it’s not a call for global governance.


But on the whole, she said, global government probably won’t work.
“I think everyone agrees this is not the right time,” Redman told FoxNews.com.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/...#ixzz1nuVDGePi

Not the right time ? Wonder when the "right time" is ?

What say ye?

Jay 03-01-2012 04:49 PM

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I am not surprised by this at all. They are attempting to establish a Global empire there at the U.N.

trialedbyfire 03-01-2012 07:38 PM

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"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Revelation 13:17

I know most of the folks on this board don't believe that this is a futuristic prophecy. I'm just throwing it out there...

Sister Alvear 03-01-2012 07:59 PM

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Some don't...i do..

bbyrd009 03-01-2012 08:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trialedbyfire (Post 1143308)
"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Revelation 13:17

I know most of the folks on this board don't believe that this is a futuristic prophecy. I'm just throwing it out there...

I can't even envision the argument to the contrary...
The Bible plainly pits believers against the system in "end times,"
although maybe "the system against believers" would
prolly be a better way to put it.

AreYouReady? 03-01-2012 09:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trialedbyfire (Post 1143308)
"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Revelation 13:17

I know most of the folks on this board don't believe that this is a futuristic prophecy. I'm just throwing it out there...

I do believe this is a futuristic prophecy. Our own government is piecemealing the global agenda in treaties that will supersede our Constitution.

The global food regulation is called Codex Alimentarius. It will essentially do away with health food supplements like it did in Europe by lowering the recommended daily allowance. It allows an increase in pesticide levels...basically going topsy-turvy from what was safe to becoming unsafe.

RandyWayne 03-01-2012 09:50 PM

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1) The antichrist will NOT be the Pope or come from the Catholic church.

2) The One World Government will have NOTHING to do with the UN which is basically a joke organization who's members are mainly petty dictators.

The Matt 03-01-2012 09:56 PM

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I love your sig Randy.
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/im..._ArOpj4-frKZPj
But yeah, the antichrist is coming, doesn't surprise me, bring it on baby.

Dordrecht 03-01-2012 09:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1143374)
1) The antichrist will NOT be the Pope or come from the Catholic church.

2) The One World Government will have NOTHING to do with the UN which is basically a joke organization who's members are mainly petty dictators.

Totally agree with your statement.
The UN stands for United Nothing.:foottap


The anti christ will be a jew from Syria.

444

AreYouReady? 03-01-2012 10:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1143374)
1) The antichrist will NOT be the Pope or come from the Catholic church.

2) The One World Government will have NOTHING to do with the UN which is basically a joke organization who's members are mainly petty dictators.

Who said anything about the antichrist being the Pope in this thread? But I am with you on this one. The Pope will not be antichrist. Somebody much more sinister, whomever he may be, will be the big A/C.

The UN may or may not have anything to do with a one world government. I do know that before she died, a woman Joan Veon spent many years investigating what was going on at UN conventions. A lot of treaties, agendas and other "consensus" happen at their meetings. The delegates of member countries then go back home and try to get laws passed in their home countries that resemble the UN rulings and/or decrees.

http://www.womensgroup.org/

Joan Veon said that the international global central bankers have more to do with the world economy and the say so of it than anybody does.

The Matt 03-01-2012 10:17 PM

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Well you have to remember, he's gonna be pretty crafty as well. He's going to fool a looooot of people...

AreYouReady? 03-01-2012 10:23 PM

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A whole lot of people have been fooled for 99 years right here in America.

houston 03-02-2012 08:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1143374)
1) The antichrist will NOT be the Pope or come from the Catholic church.

2) The One World Government will have NOTHING to do with the UN which is basically a joke organization who's members are mainly petty dictators.

Thank you.

houston 03-02-2012 08:05 AM

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The bible does not teach Antichrist... but antichrists.

trialedbyfire 03-02-2012 08:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1143370)
I do believe this is a futuristic prophecy. Our own government is piecemealing the global agenda in treaties that will supersede our Constitution.

The global food regulation is called Codex Alimentarius. It will essentially do away with health food supplements like it did in Europe by lowering the recommended daily allowance. It allows an increase in pesticide levels...basically going topsy-turvy from what was safe to becoming unsafe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhON1WN48tQ

trialedbyfire 03-02-2012 08:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1143374)
1) The antichrist will NOT be the Pope or come from the Catholic church.

2) The One World Government will have NOTHING to do with the UN which is basically a joke organization who's members are mainly petty dictators.

I've always believed that the U.N. will be dissolved soon and give way to a larger much more powerful organization much like the League of Nations was broken down. I believe the next organization will be structured on top of the smaller continental unions (North American Union, EU, Asian Union, African Union, etc).

As for the antichrist, I never saw the Catholic Church as the AntiChrist system. I believe he'll come out of one of the secular humanist religious groups. If you've ever heard of it, there are thousands waiting for the coming of a "universal messiah" they call Maitreya. It's worth looking into.

Aquila 03-02-2012 08:45 AM

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I believe that it is possible that the UN would prove to be a decent global forum in which the Antichrist begins his work.

Personally, if there is a future Antichrist... I believe he will be a charismatic Muslim leader claiming to be the Al-Mahdi. In Islam the Al-Mahdi is the Islamic "Guided One" who ushers in the final Caliphate and expands Islamic law throughout the world just prior to the day of judgment. In Islamic prophecy Isis (Jesus) returns claiming to only be a prophet and compels the world to honor the Al-Mahdi. Could this "Isis" or "Jesus" be the (false prophet?). Apparently the Al-Mahdi brings peace to the region through providing a false Torah scroll and the Jewish authorities submit to him. However, there is a revolt led by fundamentalist Jewish rebels (the two witnesses?) and the Al-Mahdi gives the order to slaughter every Jew wherever they are found and squashes the rebellion (martyrdom of the two witnesses?). The Al-Mahdi sets himself up in the Al-Aqsa Mosque and makes Jerusalem the capitol of the final Caliphate. Please note... the Al-Aqsa Mosque is... on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

Isn't it interesting how their "messiah" or "guided one" is prophecied in their Hadiths and the Quaran as doing almost the very thing most Christians believe the Bible tells us the Antichrist will do??? If the Bible is right and Islam plays a part in the Antichrist's grasping for global domination... we already have over 1.6 BILLION people who are ready to embrace him, with many willing to die valiantly for his cause, should he appear.

The UN could provide an excellent forum in which a man with demonic power can enfluence the entire world and share his vision. Also note... Islamic law and enfluence is spreading, even in America.

Aquila 03-02-2012 08:55 AM

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The Bible also describes some of the lands the Beast will lead (Dan 11:42, Ezek 38):
o Egypt, which he will attack and subdue (Dan 11:42).
o Meschek and Tubal (most likely parts of Turkey, parts of Southern Russia, parts of Iran),
o Magog (a region convering parts of either Syria and/or former Soviet Republics of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Turkey, Iran, Dagestan),
o Persia (Modern Iran)
o Cush (African Cush covers parts of Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia. Asian Cush covers Arabia through Euphrates),
o Put (Libya),
o Gomer (Cappadocia, Turkey),
o Togarmah (southeastern part of Turkey near Syria)
o Babylon (Modern Iraq. The Euphrates River in Iraq is also mentioned together with the two Beasts in Rev 16:12-13),
Basically, this is the region spanning N. Africa, Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Central Asian Islamic Republics (the various -stans). There is a good chance that the Beast will be Islamic. Given how power is divided up in the UN... such an alliance of nations could have considerable clout in the UN.

bbyrd009 03-02-2012 09:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1143455)
The bible does not teach Antichrist... but antichrists.

Hmm, interesting, not sure I was aware of this. But surely there is an "ultimate" anti-Christ argument that would disagree?

trialedbyfire 03-02-2012 09:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1143480)
I believe that it is possible that the UN would prove to be a decent global forum in which the Antichrist begins his work.

Personally, if there is a future Antichrist... I believe he will be a charismatic Muslim leader claiming to be the Al-Mahdi. In Islam the Al-Mahdi is the Islamic "Guided One" who ushers in the final Caliphate and expands Islamic law throughout the world just prior to the day of judgment. In Islamic prophecy Isis (Jesus) returns claiming to only be a prophet and compels the world to honor the Al-Mahdi. Could this "Isis" or "Jesus" be the (false prophet?). Apparently the Al-Mahdi brings peace to the region through providing a false Torah scroll and the Jewish authorities submit to him. However, there is a revolt led by fundamentalist Jewish rebels (the two witnesses?) and the Al-Mahdi gives the order to slaughter every Jew wherever they are found and squashes the rebellion (martyrdom of the two witnesses?). The Al-Mahdi sets himself up in the Al-Aqsa Mosque and makes Jerusalem the capitol of the final Caliphate. Please note... the Al-Aqsa Mosque is... on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

Isn't it interesting how their "messiah" or "guided one" is prophecied in their Hadiths and the Quaran as doing almost the very thing most Christians believe the Bible tells us the Antichrist will do??? If the Bible is right and Islam plays a part in the Antichrist's grasping for global domination... we already have over 1.6 BILLION people who are ready to embrace him, with many willing to die valiantly for his cause, should he appear.

The UN could provide an excellent forum in which a man with demonic power can enfluence the entire world and share his vision. Also note... Islamic law and enfluence is spreading, even in America.

When we're talking about Islam's influence on End Times events I don't think there's a question that this religious system is going to be highly influencial. I don't think that the AntiChrist will be practicioner of Islam though. Only because Islam is too "intolerant" of a religion, at least how it's practice in the Middle East. I think he'll claim to be the Mahdi, but I also think he'll claim to be a universal "second coming" type character. I believe he won't come as a polarizing figure but a unifying one, one who will succeed at unifying all of the world's religions including Christianity (mainly under the umbrella of the Roman Catholic Church). I believe each major religion has it's own base of leadership that will compromise and serve in the "one world" religious system.

As for Islamic Law spreading there's a specific reason for that. Islamic Law softening governments that are built on Judeo-Christian Principles and weakening those government's stand against radical Islam...

... a perfect way of bringing the west down to it's knees in preparation for a one world government. Sharia Law won't be fully implemented in the west, there's other agendas at stake there, the feminist agenda, the homosexual agenda, etc. What it will do is do everything in it's power to crush any opposition. Tolerate EVERYONE and EVERYTHING but true Bible-believing Christians. What Muslims don't understand is that their religion is a tool and has been since it's beginnings. There's significant evidence that Islam is the construct of Roman Catholicism. Then it was a tool, (according to Ex-Jesuit Priest Alberto Rivera) to destroy the Jews, now it is a tool to destroy any Christian group that won't kiss the feet of Rome. They don't understand that allah is a made up Pagan god that existed before Muhammed, proof being that Muhammed's own father was name Abdullah (which means "servant of Allah"). The Arab pagans worshipped allah long before the Quran was written.

If you look in the scripture you mention the Daniel 11 prophesy regarding Egypt. That prophecy is backed up by Isaiah 19:4:

"And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts."

But before this in Isaiah 19 there's a detailed process by which this comes to pass which actually mirrors current events. Isaiah 19:1-3 says:

"The burden of Egypt. Behold, the LORD rideth upon a swift cloud, and shall come into Egypt: and the idols of Egypt shall be moved at his presence, and the heart of Egypt shall melt in the midst of it. And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom. And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards."

Of course you remember the Egyptian revolution. Well this pretty much describes the exact events that have happened there and are happening. The "idols" of Egypt have been moved, Mubarak has been defeated. The nation is in complete and utter chaos and if this scripture is correct I'd bet on it remaining so. Also note that right before verse 4 where the great cruel Lord rules over them (which may or may not mean he becomes the direct leader or some sort of world leader that exploits Egypt's chaos) there is a revival of mysticism, witchcraft, and strange religions in Egypt. If we start seeing Egypt and the Muslim world as a whole begin to turn to strange mysticism, witchcraft, occultism, etc (which is very possible) we know we might be close to the rise of this one world religious system.

trialedbyfire 03-02-2012 09:53 AM

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To be clear though, I do think "he" will come out of the Middle East/Near East or possibly Russia. I don't believe he'll be a Muslim in the Fundamentalist sense, though but rather a mysticist who claims to have supernatural powers from outside of this planet and who will follow a Bhuddist/Co-Exist approach to religion (everyone is right but Jesus).

AreYouReady? 03-02-2012 10:43 AM

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I don't think the antichrist is one person, but rather, an economic system run by many antichrists. It is being set up before our very eyes.

Think technology folks.
Who can wage war with the beast?

RandyWayne 03-02-2012 10:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1143544)
I don't think the antichrist is one person, but rather, an economic system run by many antichrists. It is being set up before our very eyes.

Think technology folks.
Who can wage war with the beast?

I suppose the anti-christ could be Skynet......

http://firegeezer.com/files/2011/04/skynet.jpg

bbyrd009 03-02-2012 11:11 AM

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Well, but you postulate "The" anti-Christ when, as Houston mentions, I don't see this supported in Scripture anywhere--I think it is a lie, a boogeyman, similar to our universal hallucinations about "Armageddon."

Aquila 03-02-2012 11:22 AM

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I’m not sure what the disposition of the so called Al-Mahdi could be in an end time scenario. We’d be looking at a world rocked by economic turmoil and woe. Natural disasters would also be leaving various nations reeling. If in the middle of that chaos an Islamic leader rose to power who could convincingly pull off claiming to be the Al-Mahdi it might not matter how fundamentalist or universal he would be. I’d imagine he’d come off looking like a very principled, but strong, peace maker. He’d be someone inspiring on many levels. Rumors of him being the Al-Mahdi might begin germinating throughout Islam as he brings stability to the Middle East and unites the various Arab factions. If the man gained considerable religious and political clout, he’d be a force to be reckoned with… especially seeing that a world in need would be clamoring for oil and his unified Arab league would be one of the largest producers of oil in the world. Making peace with him in such economic and political hardship might be more important than worrying about his religious ideas, no matter how grand. If such a man rose to power and persuaded the Islamic nations of the Middle East to follow his lead, he’d be the most powerful man in the world; perhaps the most powerful man to rise to power in centuries. If the West posed a serious challenge to him, imagine what would happen if he persuaded the oil rich nations under his influence to cut off oil exports to the United States. Our entire economy could collapse and we’d be brought to our knees.

The idea of the Antichrist rising to power as a man who persuades vast schools of Islam that he is the Al-Mahdi is truly a disturbing one. And the only world forum I know of that might help him communicate his message would be the UN.

Aquila 03-02-2012 11:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trialedbyfire (Post 1143517)
To be clear though, I do think "he" will come out of the Middle East/Near East or possibly Russia. I don't believe he'll be a Muslim in the Fundamentalist sense, though but rather a mysticist who claims to have supernatural powers from outside of this planet and who will follow a Bhuddist/Co-Exist approach to religion (everyone is right but Jesus).

But that could pose problems. Most Muslims would never accept an Al-Mahdi like that. Also, he'd only be able to convince liberals to buy into his agenda. However, if he were a fundamentalist Muslim and presented himself as a convincing candidate for being the Al-Mahdi by fulfilling an Islamic prophecy... nearly a billion people could be persuaded to follow him overnight. They'd see him as a man of peace... even if he brings it with a sword in the name of Allah.

Aquila 03-02-2012 11:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1143544)
I don't think the antichrist is one person, but rather, an economic system run by many antichrists. It is being set up before our very eyes.

Think technology folks.
Who can wage war with the beast?

An EMP bomb? lol

Aquila 03-02-2012 11:41 AM

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Here is a list breaking down what Islam teaches about this coming “savior”:
• Muslims expect that during the end times, a Muslim leader will rise to power that they call the al-Mahdi, meaning "The Guided One". He will become the leader of all the Muslims and will wage jihad against the rest of the world. He will bring the entire world under Islam. This means his kingdom will be world-wide and his accomplishments will surpass all the great Empires in history. Thus, he will be the unparalleled ruler over the whole world.

• Regarding al-Mahdi, the Hadiths say that "The inhabitants of Heaven and Earth will be pleased with him." and "Allah will sow love of him in the chests of the people". This means al-Mahdi will be a leader much loved and followed by the world, either through voluntary allegiance or because of being subdued through jihad. Thus, it is al-Mahdi will be a charismatic and attractive person that can command the love of the world.

• The large world Empire that came after the Romans is of course the Islamic Empire, beginning at the time of Muhammad in the 7th century. Within a few decades, it captured the entire Northern Africa, Persia and reached Constantinople (modern day Istanbul), the capital of the Eastern Roman Empire. The Muslims fought many wars with the Romans until the latter fell in 1453. While the Islamic Empire could actually be divided into the Ummayyad, Abbassid, and Ottoman Empires, they were essentially still Islamic empires. With the end of the Ottoman Caliphate in 1923, the existence of an Islamic Caliphate came to an end. However, near the end of the world, Muslims are expecting the al-Mahdi to appear to restore the Islamic Caliphate. While this revived Caliphate may have nothing to do with the Ottoman Caliphate, it is significant that it will definitely be an Islamic Caliphate.

• Muslims expect the al-Mahdi (together with Isa) to unify and rule over all Muslims, and thus all Islamic nations. Even though Muhammad said in the hadiths that Muslims are to pledge their allegiance to al-Mahdi when he is revealed, it is conceivable that some Muslims leaders will not want to recognize him. This may cause him to want to attack and subdue those Muslim nations that do not recognize him. However, it is very likely that the people of those nations will give their allegiance to al-Mahdi. Once he has united the Muslims, the al-Mahdi is said to then wage a global jihad against other (non-Muslim) nations and bring the entire world under Islam.

• Al-Mahdi will rule for seven years (some hadiths say 8 or 9, but the majority says seven). Some Muslims say that the seven years is the amount of time it takes for the jihad against the rest of the world prior to the Day of Judgment.

• The hadiths indicate that a Muslim leader will appear with an army from Khorasan (Greater Khorasan includes north eastern Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and the Central Asian Islamic Republics.), so it could be one of these regions or countries. This army will come to aid the al-Mahdi. "The world will not come to an end," said Muhammad, "until a man from my family (Ahlulbayt) and of my name shall be master of the world, When you see a green ensign coming from the direction of Khorasan, then join them, for the Imam of God will be with the standards who will be called Al-Mahdi." Other hadiths say that he will come with black flags.

• The hadiths describe al-Mahdi as having a handsome look with broad forehead and a prominent nose, with an Arab complexion, but looks like a Jew (Children of Israel), "imposing and hardy". His face will be like a glittering star.

• Muslims are commanded by Muhammad to give allegiance to al-Mahdi when he appears, "even if [they were to] crawl over ice". This means that some Muslim leaders, if they are good Muslims, will willingly give their allegiance and governance to al-Mahdi.

• The hadiths say that al-Mahdi originally denies that he is the one Muslims are waiting for, and will try to escape but the knowledgeable people will search for him. Finally people will pledge allegiance to him. Once his identity is revealed, all Muslims are to pledge allegiance to him.

• Some Muslims also think that al-Mahdi will be coming on a white horse and conquering, using the same passage (Rev 6:2) to justify it.

• The hadiths say that there will be a treaty with the Romans for seven years (the last of 4 such treaties). This appears to coincide with the reign of al-Mahdi. Muslims say this treaty is through a "Son of Aaron" (a Levite). It should be noted that the 10 year Treaty of Hudaibiya, that Muhammad was forced to sign with the Meccans, was broken. Two years later, when the Muslims had become a much stronger force, Muhammad broke the treaty on a minor infraction.

• Al-Mahdi and Isa are supposed to usher an era of peace as the whole world follows Islam. However, this also involves killing all those who refuse to accept Islam (Isa will "kill the swine, break the Cross, and abolish the Jizya tax" ... so Isa will accept nothing except Islam from the Christians). This means those who refuse to follow al-Mahdi and Isa will be faced with death.

• The hadiths say that the al-Mahdi will enter into the al-Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mount and re-establish the Caliphate.

• Muslims believe that Jerusalem will be the center and headquarters of the future Islamic Caliphate. For example, the head of the northern faction of the Islamic Movement Sheikh Raed Salah addressed an audience of 50,000 in September 2006 that "…soon Jerusalem will be the capital of the new Muslim caliphate, and the caliph's seat will be there." (Ynet News article) Imam Ahmad, Al-Hakim and Abu Dawud quoted 'Abdullah Ibn Zughb Al- Ibadi who heard from 'Abdullah Ibn Hawwala Al- Azdi that: "The Prophet put his hand on my head, and then said: 'Ibn Hawwala, if you see that the Caliphate has taken its abode in the holy land, then the earthquake, the tribulations and great events are at hand, and the Last Hour on that day will be closer to people than my hand is to your head." (Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Musnad. also Abu Dawud). Ibn Sa'd quoted 'Abd Al-Rahman Ibn Abi 'Umayra al-Mazni, "There will be an oath of allegiance according to guidance in Jerusalem." (ibn Hanbal, Musnad)

• Muslims expect the coming of Isa (the Muslim version of Jesus). The Hadiths say that Isa will help slay the ad-Dajjal (Muslim version of Antichrist) and then help al-Mahdi to set up the global Islamic Caliphate.

• The hadiths say that Isa will "make the religion of Allah prevail in the world."

• The hadiths say that Isa will submit himself to the authority of the al-Mahdi (eg. he asks al-Mahdi to lead in prayer), etc. He will assist al-Mahdi to set up Islamic religion over the whole world.

• Isa is the Muslim version of the biblical Jesus. Muslims believe that Isa is a human prophet, but not Son of God, and that he did not die on the cross. Muslims believe that Isa is now in heaven and will return to help the al-Mahdi to set up the Islamic Caliphate. It is said that he will "correct the falsities introduced into Christianity" -- perhaps by claiming that he is not God and that he was in heaven all along and has now returned to turn the world to Islam. Islam allows the use of lying to achieve some of its goals. The hadiths say that lying is allowed under certain circumstances, one of which is when in a state of war. Muhammad also allowed his followers to lie in order to get his enemies killed. If Isa were to follow the Sunnah of Muhammad, then lying is an acceptable means to deal with the enemies in order to establish the Caliphate.

• Isa will be accepted as Jesus. This is of course in the context of Islam.
TO BE CONTINUED...

Aquila 03-02-2012 11:41 AM

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CONTINUED...


• The number of Muslims today is somewhere between 1.4 to 1.6 billion. Al-Mahdi will wage jihad against the rest of the world. Hadiths describe an army into the hundreds of millions in number.

• Al-Mahdi and Isa will direct people to worship Allah. Al-Mahdi and Isa will be very successful in their jihad against the world ... so that all the world will be under Islam.

• The hadiths clearly say that al-Mahdi will institute Shar'ia over the entire world. Shar'ia is Islamic law.

• The al-Mahdi will use the Islamic calendar as he implements the Shar'ia and call on subdued nations to use the Islamic calendar.

• Since the Jizya tax will be abolished under Isa and al-Mahdi, the "protection" of Christianity under Islamic rule is longer allowed. "Isa will accept nothing except Islam from the Jews and Christians." That means the only acceptable response from a Christian is either to become a Muslim or be killed.

• The hadiths say that al-Mahdi and his followers will attack the Jews. The first group will of course be the ad-Dajjal and his Jewish followers who stage a revolt against the al-Mahdi in Jerusalem. Muhammad said: “The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him;” (Sahih Muslim Book 041, Number 6985).

• The al-Mahdi, will lead many nations to attack Israel.

• Muslims tell us that when the al-Mahdi comes, "At that time, the only two options for humanity will be to embrace Islam or die.”

• Muhammad had the males of the entire tribe of Banu Qurayza beheaded after he defeated them. The Qur'an says: “When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if God had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of God, He will not send their works astray.” (Surah 47:4, 8:12) Beheading is the mandated form of execution for those who do not submit to the Islam.

• Some Muslims claim that the al-Mahdi that will force a mark on every person to distinguish between a Muslim and a non-Muslim. The Muslim's face will then shine while that of a non-Muslim will become black. Others claim that it is the mark of performing salat, as a sign of piety. (The marking of believers is a good thing in Islam.)

• A hadith says, "At the end of the time of my Ummah, the Mahdi will appear. Allah will grant him rain, the earth will bring forth its fruits, he will give a lot of money, cattle will increase and the Muslim Ummah will become great." They teach that Jesus performed many miracles the first time He was on earth, so when Isa arrives, it is likely that Isa will perform miracles in order that people will believe that the al-Mahdi is indeed the “Guided One” sent by GOD (Allah).

• Under al-Mahdi, the Jizya tax will be abolished and the Cross broken. Given that the Jizya tax will be abolished, the fate of Christians can only be one of the two: become a Muslim or be executed. It is easily conceivable that a number of Christians will become Muslims in such a scenario. This has been poignantly illustrated in the kidnapping of Fox News journalists Steve Centarini and Olaf Wiig in August 2006, who were forced to convert to Islam under gun-point.

• Lying is acceptable, even among Muslims (eg. to effect reconciliation).

• The Hadiths describe ad-Dajjal at the End Times. Muslims believe that ad-Dajjal will work many miracles, deceive many people, and cause great suffering and torment in the world. Also, Muslims believe that Yajug and Majuj (Gog and Magog) and their followers will "cause great devastation to the earth and Muslims". Muhammad told his followers to beware of the "trial of ad-Dajjal". Muhammad broke out in sweating and trembling at times when he had visions of ad-Dajjal.

• Muslims believe that ad-Dajjal has the letters kfr on his head, which all Muslims can recognize and therefore identify him as ad-Dajjal. They will then be able to avoid him.

• Isa is expected to kill ad-Dajjal, and usher a new era of world-wide Islam. As Muslims who die are supposed to be buried as soon as possible, Isa orders that the ad-Dajjal and his followers not be buried and their bodies lay in the street as a sign of punishment.

• According to Muslim expectations, Isa will kill the ad-Dajjal at the Gate of Ludd (Lod in Israel, near Tel Aviv). At the same time, his followers (a Jewish army numbering into the thousands) will also lose their lives.

• Given that ad-Dajjal is a negative figure in Islam (tormenting the Muslims), Muslims around the world rejoice and celebrate at the death of ad-Dajjal.


• Islam specifically denies the central beliefs of Christianity. It denies
that Jesus is God (i.e., Father-Son relationship of God and Jesus)
that Jesus came in the flesh (since Muslims deny that Jesus is God)
and that Jesus died on the Cross for the sins of mankind (Islam believes that Jesus was not crucified on the cross, but someone else was).

Aquila 03-02-2012 11:43 AM

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What I find interesting as a Christian in this study is that the Islamic Messiah, the “al-Mahdi”, is believed to do almost exactly what Christian Eschatology claims the Antichrist will do. Here’s a listing of what the Antichrist will do according to the Bible:
• The Antichrist will be an unparalleled political, military and religious leader in the Last Days (Rev 13:1-9).

• The Bible says that the people of this world will be amazed and will follow the Beast (Rev 13:3,7). Many Christians believe that this is most probably after certain miracles have been performed and certain victories have been attained. The Bible describes him to have suffered a fatal wound, but was healed, thereby causing many people to marvel and follow him. Another reason is the Antichrist's military genius in conducting warfare.

• The Bible describes the Antichrist Empire as a resurrection of one or more of the seven Empires that preceeded it (Rev 17:9-11). When the Apostle John recorded the Book of Revelations, the Empire at the time was the Roman Empire, the 6th Empire ("one is"), and one more was yet to come, which will stay for a considerable period of time. (Rev 17:10). The eighth and final Empire before the End of the World is from the seven, but it is not the Roman Empire (Rev 17:11).

• The Bible describes that ten nations will come under the rule of the Antichrist, and he "will subdue three nations" (Dan 7:24). Here, "nations" may not necessarily be the countries we know today. These ten "nations" will form the basis of his Empire, from which he will then seek to subdue the rest of the world.

• The Bible also describes some of the lands the Beast will lead (Dan 11:42, Ezek 38):
o Egypt, which he will attack and subdue (Dan 11:42).
o Meschek and Tubal (most likely parts of Turkey, parts of Southern Russia, parts of Iran),
o Magog (a region convering parts of either Syria and/or former Soviet Republics of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Turkey, Iran, Dagestan),
o Persia (Modern Iran)
o Cush (African Cush covers parts of Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia. Asian Cush covers Arabia through Euphrates),
o Put (Libya),
o Gomer (Cappadocia, Turkey),
o Togarmah (southeastern part of Turkey near Syria)
o Babylon (Modern Iraq. The Euphrates River in Iraq is also mentioned together with the two Beasts in Rev 16:12-13),
Basically, this is the region spanning N. Africa, Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Central Asian Islamic Republics (the various -stans). All are Muslim dominated nations. The Bible says that these nations will then come together and attack the land of Israel.

• The Beast's Empire will combine characteristics of three previous Empires (Rev 13:2). The three empires described symbolically are:
o Babylon (symbolized by lion),
o Medo-Persian (symbolized by bear) and
o Greece (symbolized by leopard).
If we combine the three Empires, we again get almost the same areas as above.

• The Bible describes the Antichrist as ruling for seven years (Dan 9:27).

• The Beast will appear from the region occupied by the Seleucid Empire, one of the four that the Greek Empire founded by Alexander the Great was broken up into after his death (Dan 8:8-9). This region spans from the Aegean Sea to Afghanistan. The region is Islamic today.

• He has a stern look (Dan 8:23) - probably means intimidating. He will be a master of intrigue - that means highly intelligent. Some say that he will look like an angel of light (2 Cor 11:14) - probably means that he behaves religiously and/or has good looks and/or that there is light or glow on his face.

• The ten nations are such that "They have one purpose, and they will give their power and authority to the beast." (Rev 17:13). This means that except for the subduing of the three nations, the rest of the league of ten nations will willingly give their right to govern their countries to the Antichrist. Also they will rule with the Beast for a short season (Rev 17:12).

• The Revelation states that "he was given a crown." (Rev 6:2), indicating that he was not of royalty, nor one that attempts to gain power at first. Instead, he was somehow persuaded to take up his rule.

• He will come riding on a white horse and conquering (Rev 6:2).

• The Antichrist will have the treasures of Egypt, Libya, Nubians (Northern Sudan, Southern Egypt) to give to his followers (Dan 11:43). All are Islamic states.

• He will distribute plunder, loot and wealth among his followers (Dan 11:24). He will distribute land (Dan 11:39).

• The Bible says that the Antichrist will enter peaceably the "richest province" (Dan 11:24). Note that in Hebrew, "richest" comes from the word "shiman" meaning fat, oil, grease. The Hebrew word for "province" is "Medinah".

• He will make a treaty with many (likely Israel and possibly the West) for 7 years (Dan 9:27).

• He will break the treaty when the time is ripe; he is said to terminate the sacrifice in the middle of the seven years (Dan 9:27).

• The Antichrist "by peace shall destroy many" (Dan 8:25), indicating an empty promise of global peace.

• He will invade Judea and desecrate the Temple Mount (Dan 9:27; 11:31; 12:11). Jesus also alluded to this prophecy (Matthew 24:15) in His famous discourse on the End-Times in (Matthew 24).

• The Beast will set himself up in the temple on the Temple Mount and exalts himself there (2 Thess 2:4).

• The Bible says that the Antichrist will have a prominent assistant who will help him (Rev 13:11-17). The Bible calls this assistant the Second Beast (symbolic of a person, not interpreted as literally an animal) or the False Prophet.

• The Second Beast is a religious figure to bring in a global religion (Rev 13).

• The deputy is subordinate to the First Beast and will support him and deceive people to follow the First Beast (Rev 13:21).

• The 2nd Beast will have horns that look like a lamb's but speak like a dragon (Rev 13:11). Lamb in the Bible obviously refers to Jesus who takes away the sin of the world (John 1:29, 1:35-36). Horns in Biblical symbolism often represent power and authority. Thus, we see that the second Beast will claim to be Jesus and exercise power (eg. miracles) and authority in his name, but is in reality not the Biblical Jesus. The dragon is the father of lies (John 8:44). That means the second Beast will employ lies to help the 1st Beast and bring about the new Empire. Lying will be allowed to bring about the desired results.

• Jesus alluded that an imposter will be accepted as the biblical Jesus (John 5:43).

• The two beasts will have a powerful army to dominate the world and create a new world order (Rev 13:7).

• Together, they will institute a global religion over the whole world (Rev 13:8,15). The second beast is the religious leader that will help the first beast institute and enforce this new religion.

• There will arise from the Euphrates (modern Iraq) an army of 200 million (Rev 9:14-16). This does not mean that they are all from that region, but could be a gathering of people, and it also does not mean that that is the size of the army of the first Beast.

• The Bible says that people will worship the person behind the Beast because power was given to the Beast (Rev 13:14). People will say, "Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?" (Rev 13:14).

• They will change existing laws (Dan 7:25).

• They will change the calendar system (Dan 7:25).

• The Beasts will persecute the Jews and Christians, and will be allowed to win over them (Dan 7:2, 8:24; Rev 13:7,10).

• The Bible says that the Antichrist will attack Israel (Dan 11:41).

• The world will attack Israel. "Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of drunkenness to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem." (Zechariah 12:2. Also Ezekiel 38).

• They (and his deputy below) will attack and conquer Jerusalem (Dan 9:26).

• The Bible says that those who refuse to follow the new world religion will be killed (Rev 20:4, 13:10).

• They will use beheading as a means to execute those who do not follow them (Rev 20:4, 13:10).

• The False Prophet will require a mark on people's head or hand so that they can buy or sell (Rev 13:17). As the False Prophet is the religious leader of the new world order, his system of marking obviously distinguishes between those who are submitted to the world religion and order, and against those who are not.

• The Second Beast will be able to perform miracles (Rev 13:13).

• The Bible prophesies that many Christians will turn away from the biblical faith (2 Thess 2:3, Matthew 24:10-13, 1 Tim 4:1-2, 2 Tim 4:3-4). In Luke 18:8, Jesus asked poignantly, "when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?".

• There will be the use of lies in the world religion (2 John 1:7, Rev 13:11, 14, 19:20) – probably in order to win over people and to rule them.

• The Bible describes Two Witnesses at the End Times (Rev 11:1-14).

• The Witnesses will work many miracles. "And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner. These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire." (Rev 11:5-6), and "these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth." (Rev 11:10).

• The Witnesses will wear sackcloth, signifying repentance and atonement. Atonement in Hebrew is Kippur, from the root word kpr (in Hebrew f and p are the same letter, the latter being a hardening of sound of the former).

• The Witnesses will be killed by the Beast and the whole world will see their bodies without burial for three and a half days (Rev 11:8).

• The Witnesses will be killed in Israel, "And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." (Rev 11:8).

• At the death of the Witnesses', the world will rejoice and send each other gifts (Rev 11:10).

• The Witnesses will rise from the dead three days later and ascend into Heaven for the entire world to see (Rev 11:11).

• Three unclean spirits gather the armies of the world for the great day of God Almighty (Rev 16:13-14).

• The ten nation confederacy turns on the Antichrist and destroys his capital (Jerusalem) upon realizing he is an imposter (Rev 17:16-18).

• The Antichrist confronts Christ in the valley of Armageddon (Rev 19:1).

• The Antichrist and the False Prophet are taken with their armies by the angels led by Christ Jesus as he descends from Heaven (Revelation 19:20-21)

• According to the Bible, the Antichrist denies that Jesus is the Christ, denies the Son and the Father, ie. Father-Son relationship between God and Jesus (1 John 2:21-23, 4:3), denies that Jesus came in the flesh, i.e. God came in flesh (1 John 4:2-3, 2 John 1:7).
All of the above Scriptures tell us plainly what the Antichrist will do. I find it interesting that Islam teaches an “anti-parallelism”, describing the Islamic “savior” as doing the very things attributed to the biblical Antichrist.

Of course... the UN is the only forum wherein such a man could influence the entire world.

Aquila 03-02-2012 12:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 1143191)
An environmental report issued by an agency of the United Nations last month has some critics sounding the alarm, saying it is a clarion call for "global governance" over how the Earth is managed.


But its critics see an agenda lurking in its 60 pages, which call for a complete overhaul of how the world's food and water are created and distributed

options that include new “constitutional frameworks,” “international protocols” and a “shared vision” for land and water management that essentially rewire existing treaties and governments.

But the group insists it’s not a call for global governance.


But on the whole, she said, global government probably won’t work.
“I think everyone agrees this is not the right time,” Redman told FoxNews.com.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/...#ixzz1nuVDGePi

Not the right time ? Wonder when the "right time" is ?

What say ye?

No. It's not time yet. However, all they will need is a significant enough global crisis and a leader who can communicate the agenda well enough to bring the world in on it. There is no doubt in my mind that we will see the effort... but I think their plans will be interrupted by a greater threat before it can become a reality.

Aquila 03-02-2012 12:04 PM

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We have a global forum trying to unite the world and a global religion (Islam) that is set to embrace a man who is described in the same manner as the Bible describes the Antichrist.

Scary.

Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFQf...eature=related

Aquila 03-02-2012 12:31 PM

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Guess what I just found! This is about the UN and Islam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gki50...eature=related

My friends... this is a very real war. This isn't a novel. People are already dying and war is impending because people are expecting this Al Mahdi to appear.

Aquila 03-02-2012 01:09 PM

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This is interesting (many of you have seen this before):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

trialedbyfire 03-02-2012 01:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1143567)
But that could pose problems. Most Muslims would never accept an Al-Mahdi like that. Also, he'd only be able to convince liberals to buy into his agenda. However, if he were a fundamentalist Muslim and presented himself as a convincing candidate for being the Al-Mahdi by fulfilling an Islamic prophecy... nearly a billion people could be persuaded to follow him overnight. They'd see him as a man of peace... even if he brings it with a sword in the name of Allah.

A billion out 6 billion. What about the Bhuddists? The Shikhs? The Christians? The Jews? The Atheists?

A fundamentalist Islamic dictator would unify just about everyone against him. Which is why I said he won't be a polarizing figure. As for everyday Muslims, I've always believed that Islam is a complete fraud of a religion and Muslims are the most easy to control besides Bhuddists. Generally the Anti-Christ won't have to win the opinion of the majority of muslims, he'll simply have to win over Muslim leadership. The average muslim will fall in line if their leadership is in line. Win over the Ayatollah you have Iran. Win over the Saudis you have the majority of Sunni Muslims.

This goes for other religions as well, the goal is to get the leaders behind this "One World Religion" and the "people" (or the vast majority of them) will simply fall behind. Those that don't... kill them. Simple process. Also I'm not convinced that this "man" will actually convince most world's religions to follow him through means of understanding and study of religious books and texts. There will be GREAT signs, and GREAT wonders that will be performed to solidify the plan to form this "one world government". An interesting theory I heard and have considered is the possibility that a leadership figure will come out claiming to be an extraterrestrial. Maybe staging a spaceship landing, etc. It sounds far-fetched but... I mean that would unite a whole bunch of people of all faiths who didn't know any better.

AreYouReady? 03-02-2012 08:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1143568)
An EMP bomb? lol

Heh heh. Funny.
Same funny for skynet.

Can't buy or sell? All they have to do is to turn off your bank account. Deny access to it if you don't pledge allegiance to the NWO and take the mark that allows you access to all the technology.

Consider this article. Not saying he is 100% and absolutely correct because he is just studying current events like the rest of us. But just consider this article, which is 20 years old.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/ce1043.html

Jay 03-02-2012 09:37 PM

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I have come to the conlcusion that there could be a number of anti-Christs and their prophets. Eventually, I do believe that it will be reduced to one Anti-Christ and False Prophet, but would be willing to say that there would be a war or series of wars first.

berkeley 03-02-2012 09:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1143833)
I have come to the conlcusion that there could be a number of anti-Christs and their prophets. Eventually, I do believe that it will be reduced to one Anti-Christ and False Prophet, but would be willing to say that there would be a war or series of wars first.

How'd you extrapolate that?

Jay 03-02-2012 10:24 PM

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I am looking at the various groups who can produce an anti-Christ or false prophet. Islam, the UN, the Catholic Church, other assorted groups, occultists, and any one who chooses to walk down that path.

I do believe that there will only be one whom Jesus shall destroy when He returns in glory. The Bible does say that there will be many who will rise claiming to be Christ. And there is nothing that says that they will not rise and each attempt to rule the world.

The Matt 03-02-2012 10:41 PM

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A branch of Islam right now claims a messiah. The 12th Imam.


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