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Cindy 03-19-2012 04:54 PM

God's Healthcare Plan
 
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. James 5:14-15 KJV

Pressing-On 03-19-2012 04:57 PM

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:cheer :cheer :cheer :cheer

Jay 03-20-2012 09:37 AM

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It does not get better than that. I believe that this might also factor into that healthcare plan as well.

III John 2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

Bro. Robbins 03-20-2012 09:40 AM

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Thank God for His Word and His Promises!!!

KeptByTheWord 03-20-2012 11:12 AM

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Love this thought Cindy!!! God is the greatest physician ever, and so thankful our trust can be in Him!

Timmy 03-20-2012 12:00 PM

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:blink

RandyWayne 03-20-2012 12:05 PM

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I suppose I would rather have God pay for my Hove Around scooter, rather than having the taxpayers pay for it via medicare......

....or my diabetic supplies.

Cindy 03-20-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1149225)
I suppose I would rather have God pay for my Hove Around scooter, rather than having the taxpayers pay for it via medicare......

....or my diabetic supplies.

RW, my husband is a diabetic and we are thankful for the medications that not only saved his life, but reverses along with diet and exercise, some of the horrors of this disease. That in no way discounts God's plan for us to live a long healthy life, and our complete healing.

AreYouReady? 03-20-2012 04:01 PM

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Thank you Cindy. I like this much more than the new healthcare law passed on us here in America.


I fear that man's healthcare "reform" is going to force people to engage in "preventive care" whether we want to or not. I don't want forced vaccines or medication to "prevent" some disease forced upon me.

commonsense 03-20-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1149231)
RW, my husband is a diabetic and we are thankful for the medications that not only saved his life, but reverses along with diet and exercise, some of the horrors of this disease. That in no way discounts God's plan for us to live a long healthy life, and our complete healing.


:thumbsup

God heals us, but He is pleased when we do our part____eating healthy and avoiding things that will harm us.

At ladies' retreats Nona Freeman always gave a few words on a vitamin or two. :highfive

The Matt 03-20-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1149019)
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. James 5:14-15 KJV

My old pastor believed deeply in these scriptures, so deeply that he turned down chemotherapy, instead choosing to go with prayer, fasting, reading his Word, and something called the halleleujah diet. He lasted a year. No way am I gonna turn down treatment for things I suffer from after that. The miracle is in the advancements that medication has made.

Timmy 03-21-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1149390)
My old pastor believed deeply in these scriptures, so deeply that he turned down chemotherapy, instead choosing to go with prayer, fasting, reading his Word, and something called the halleleujah diet. He lasted a year. No way am I gonna turn down treatment for things I suffer from after that. The miracle is in the advancements that medication has made.

That's sad, but at least he was an adult, making his own decisions. I really hate when this happens to children because of their parents' decisions.

houston 03-21-2012 12:53 PM

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I would turn down chemo. Has nothing to do with my faith.

RandyWayne 03-21-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1149390)
My old pastor believed deeply in these scriptures, so deeply that he turned down chemotherapy, instead choosing to go with prayer, fasting, reading his Word, and something called the halleleujah diet. He lasted a year. No way am I gonna turn down treatment for things I suffer from after that. The miracle is in the advancements that medication has made.

?

I have to know. What on Earth did this consist of? Is it eating at the Golden Corral every meal and shouting "Hallelujah!"?

Titus2woman 03-21-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1149536)
I would turn down chemo. Has nothing to do with my faith.

Chemo can be a blessing or a curse. Where there is a reasonable chance of 'cure' it is well worth the try, especially for those who would be cut short in the middle of raising a family.

However it is also a viable option to say no. This is often not respected by friends, family or even medical professionals. When there is little hope for cure and one is exchanging quanity for quality of life I believe that what you say is not only reasonable but often best. Unfortunately it is the rare patient who has the foresight to choose it.

I am very glad that my mom did not just spend her last days undergoing an open heart operation that she could not have survived but there was not a lot of support for her refusal.

Pilgrum 03-21-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 1149388)
:thumbsup

God heals us, but He is pleased when we do our part____eating healthy and avoiding things that will harm us.

At ladies' retreats Nona Freeman always gave a few words on a vitamin or two. :highfive

:iagree:iagree

Pilgrum 03-21-2012 04:59 PM

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There are natural inexpensive cures for all major diseases including cancer that are more effective than chemo but pharmaceutical companies don't want you to know about because they would lose billions if the truth where known. Drugs never cured anybody.

Timmy 03-21-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilgrum (Post 1149585)
There are natural inexpensive cures for all major diseases including cancer that are more effective than chemo but pharmaceutical companies don't want you to know about because they would lose billions if the truth where known. Drugs never cured anybody.

Fan of Kevin Trudeau?

The Matt 03-21-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1149542)
?

I have to know. What on Earth did this consist of? Is it eating at the Golden Corral every meal and shouting "Hallelujah!"?

Don't quote me on this, but no sugar, no meat, no carbs (I only know by what I saw him stay away from) He died of a mixture of cancer and malnutrition.

The Matt 03-21-2012 05:09 PM

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God can cure anything, but nobody said you have to turn down treatment in order for God to cure you. It's a miracle if you survive cancer. That should be enough. Anything past that is just trying to prove a point, and you may put God in a position that He feels it's more glorifying your religion, or glorifying yourself instead of glorifying Him.

bbyrd009 03-21-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilgrum (Post 1149585)
There are natural inexpensive cures for all major diseases including cancer that are more effective than chemo but pharmaceutical companies don't want you to know about because they would lose billions if the truth where known. Drugs never cured anybody.

Well, they're great for treating symptoms, but I'm not a fan of Trudeau. Pretty much have to agree with the rest.

AreYouReady? 03-21-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Titus2woman (Post 1149545)
Chemo can be a blessing or a curse. Where there is a reasonable chance of 'cure' it is well worth the try, especially for those who would be cut short in the middle of raising a family.

At my age, I often contemplate what i would do in this situation. I suppose it depends on what stage of cancer. Why start chemo if cancer is found in the last stages?

Another thing about chemo. It is poison and it kills healthy cells in the process. Unless things have changed, people were told not to use supplements during chemo.

AreYouReady? 03-21-2012 08:41 PM

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Another interesting note...many physicians will not do chemo.

Pilgrum 03-21-2012 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1149586)
Fan of Kevin Trudeau?

I do like a lot of what he has to say. It coincides with a lot of other information I've read. I'm not an expert, but I I've read a lot about nutrition and the Standard American Diet (SAD) and its devastating affects on health. And I've always been suspect of pharmaceutical companies and the FDA. Take substances like aspertane, MSG, fluoride, chlorine. These subtances are devastating to our health and should be outlawed, but they are approved by the FDA. GMO's are scary. He's right, everything IS about the money. He's a very good writer.

Pilgrum 03-21-2012 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1149588)
God can cure anything, but nobody said you have to turn down treatment in order for God to cure you. It's a miracle if you survive cancer. That should be enough. Anything past that is just trying to prove a point, and you may put God in a position that He feels it's more glorifying your religion, or glorifying yourself instead of glorifying Him.

Please, this is not to discredit or down play the miraculous healings that God does perform in our lives, but people do overcome cancer outside of the miraculous. Unless you call our marvelous bodies ability to heal itself, by God's own design, miraculous. Improve the bodies ability to heal itself and it will. Drugs can't and never could do that. I'm just saying there other choices and alternatives that have been shown to be effective.

In the end we will all die. It may be cancer. It may be an accident. It may be a heart attack. One way or another, where leaving this world. But don't worry about it because the stress will hasten your exit.:heeheehee

bbyrd009 03-21-2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1149602)
At my age, I often contemplate what i would do in this situation. I suppose it depends on what stage of cancer. Why start chemo if cancer is found in the last stages?

Another thing about chemo. It is poison and it kills healthy cells in the process. Unless things have changed, people were told not to use supplements during chemo.

I'd sure start here
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...dtzmTYbjV2K42Q

...and if you are reading this and not supplementing with Omega 3 and vitamin D, two critical nutrients, I can almost guarantee you're deficient in both. And eating CAFO protein? You are just begging for it.


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